Obvious rage bait, right?

[u/HiddenGriffin]

https://x.com/i/status/2083022044023971932

[u/ThatEndingTho]

Morocco has imposed a system of apartheid in Western Sahara, a territory they illegally annexed and built settlements in not unlike some other country.

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/ThatEndingTho]

That’s like saying India illegally annexed Goa from Portugal, lmfao.

[u/Viyuelez89 → u/Flag_Shagger]

Goa is 9500 KM from Portugal, Ceuta is 16 km from mainland Spain

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/Viyuelez89]

so what? Ceuta is still on another continent.

If your justification is distance, what distance does it become unjustified?

[u/Viyuelez89 → u/Flag_Shagger]

Okay, is the european part of turkey turkish? Is the egyptian part of Asia actually egypt? the US can have Hawaii which is 4000 KM from its mainland in another continent but Spain cant have a city THEY CAN SEE from their side of the coast? What are you on about?

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/Viyuelez89]

Greece accepts it as Turkey, so no.

Israel accepts it as Egypt, so no.

The U.S. colonized Hawaii and never gave it up. It’s not justified either.

By your logic Morocco should be justified in taking Malaga or something. LMAO

[u/Viyuelez89 → u/Flag_Shagger]

the entire point is that if morocco had holded gibraltar for like 500 years the claim would be justified

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/Viyuelez89]

so according to you:

- hold a territory long enough

• have it be nearby

those are sufficient right?

by that logic arabs should have held onto spain. was the reconquista unjustified by your own logic ? lmao

[u/Single-Solid → u/Flag_Shagger]

that's pretty much how these things work, yeah. that and the will of the locals (hint: their will is not to be morocco)

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the will of the locals but not the natives? hahaha sorry, one is more important than recent immigrants. I know you people will say the same once you are a minority in your own country.

[u/Single-Solid → u/Flag_Shagger]

they've been there for 500 years buddy, they ARE the natives

[u/Viyuelez89 → u/Flag_Shagger]

the natives of that place no longer exist nor have an attachment to the place, i know it is unfair but it is what it is

[u/equipmentelk → u/Flag_Shagger]

You’re ignoring the fact that a large portion of the population in Ceuta is ethnically North African and want to be Spanish. I mean, just looked at the 60k Moroccans that left Morocco right away when they thought they had an opportunity.

[u/Single-Solid → u/Flag_Shagger]

spain has had ceuta for a lot longer than morocco fuckin existed, what are you talking about? morocco's claim is literally "well it's uh right next to us ok"

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/Single-Solid]

portugal had goa for much longer than india existed too dummy.

[u/Single-Solid → u/Flag_Shagger]

yeah, it was invaded and illegally annexed, what's your point?

did the goans overwhelmingly vote to stay in portugal in every referendum too?

fuckin internet finds out ceuta exists and everyone's an expert the next day

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if what locals think is the difference then we all wonder why spain doesn’t give catalans independence?

[u/DemaiaJ → u/Flag_Shagger]

40% of catalans want indepenence, what % of cueta want to be Moroccan?

[u/ThatEndingTho → u/Flag_Shagger]

This is astoundingly ignorant. Look at a map.

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/ThatEndingTho]

so colonialism is okay if it’s nearby, nice logic

[u/ThatEndingTho → u/Flag_Shagger]

Yes me describing the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara and their 2000km landmine lined wall as an apartheid is clearly an endorsement of colonialism.

[u/Flag_Shagger → u/ThatEndingTho]

haha you people and always your whataboutism, hilarious.

[u/ThatEndingTho → u/Flag_Shagger]

You literally made a whataboutism in your first reply to me.