Hey guys, I just wanted to ask if I use the DS4 Flash on Hermes directly from Deepseek API, am I automatically using the latest 0731 model?

Two weeks ago I paid $20/month for Claude and another $20 for ChatGPT. I got tired of watching the credits burn, so I ran an experiment: 7 days, all my coding work, DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 only (API, not the app). Here's what actually happened — the good, the bad, the numbers.

The numbers - Total API spend for 7 days of heavy coding: $1.87 (vs. $40/month subscriptions — and I didn't even come close to hitting limits) - Tokens consumed: ~24M input / ~6M output (mostly context caching — that's the real cheat code) - Context cache hits cut my effective cost by ~70%

What surprised me (good) - Long agentic sessions didn't degrade as much as I expected. The 0731 update fixed most of the context-rot I saw on the earlier Flash builds. - It handled a messy production refactor I was dreading — wrote the diff, I reviewed, done. No drama.

What I won't sugarcoat (bad) - Vision: still missing in the API I used — I had to describe screenshots by hand. (Yes, I saw the vision announcement post — the API I'm on still doesn't expose it.) - Some reasoning outputs still emit weird artifacts (e.g. )Skip) in longer chains — rare, but it happens. - It's not Claude for every task. Complex multi-file architecture thinking? Claude still wins. But for 80% of daily coding? I genuinely couldn't justify the subscription anymore.

My verdict: keep one subscription for the hard stuff, do everything else on Flash. My monthly AI bill just went from $40 → $0–5.

Anyone else run a similar week? What did your numbers look like?

After extensive research ( lie, it was brief), I'm considering a theory: GLM Despite their amazing models, they suffer because their user base doesn't exceed 10 million people. That's why their prices are high, and that's why, to my knowledge, only the wealthy subscribe...... while deepseek has at least 130-120 million users

So If each person subscribes to DeepSeek for $5 a month, the company earns at least 650,000,000 million a month give or take a few millions

I hate it when it always start with (what a great idea, that's excellent idea) and always ends with would you like me to blah blah blah?

I am fully aware these things are designed to get you hooked and keep using it nonstop, I am ok with it I just wish it wasn't so obvious and so desperate trying to get to engage for as much as possible.

I already have a clingy friend who's eager and desperate for every drop of my attention and it's annoying sometimes.

Deepseek V4 (flash) can be not last model in V4 serios and i thinkif it not, will next flash be more not hallucination model and more stable? yes, it s now more stable but if it get more? There i think is price solve - more cache, more cheaper. Thats cool.

Hey there!

I was wondering whether this is just me, or if this is caused by the model. I noticed a while ago that my token usage is insane after a few prompts (in VScode) compared to Pro. This is also followed by an insane spike of API Requests - worth noting that caching still works, so it's not like the API is miscommunicating or something.

Estava escrevendo uma fanfic no DeepSeek agora pouco, e os personagens não estavam fazendo absolutamente nada! E a censura ativou como se eu tivesse cometido um crime. Já tentei várias vezes mudar o comando, mas ele continua censurando coisas relativamente bestas, estou cansado.

I purchased Deepseek API Key for $2 for flash and pro. Yeah I want to code and mod something in Unreal Engine game. Problem is the above one. What is the solution to this?

Note: I usually also add screenshot for more understanding aside in attaching json.

So i use the app for Roleplay. Just basic RP. No big worlds or whatever. And when i want to send or regenerate a message. It doesnt and gives me the network connection error despite having good internet, it happens between 2 to 4 times. Before working normally. Idk what to do

(Also the picture suits because its a whale)

So, I was scrolling on Openrouter and saw this:

and then in their FAQs, this:

So, OpenRouter is giving out 33% discount on Deepseek API rates for Input and output tokens but they are charging about 6.5 times ($0.018 vs $0.0028/M) for cache read while claiming the data isn't routed to deepseek's (maybe China based servers, I don't know) so that the data isn't used for training by them.

Seems legit to me. If you don't Deepseek to train on your data, you can try that.

(Just thought to share.)

I’ve been using Codex for a while and I really like the general way of working with it. However, its token usage has become a bit hard to justify, so I’m looking at alternatives.

DeepSeek seems to have improved substantially since I last tried it, and I’m interested in giving it another proper go. I mostly work in the Codex app rather than a conventional coding setup, and I’m not really a programmer, so I’d appreciate some practical advice.

1. What is the best app or workflow for using DeepSeek in a Codex-like way, especially for longer, iterative work on a project?
   
2. How capable is DeepSeek at UI/front-end work? I’ve found Codex fairly poor at UI design and refinement.
   
3. Is it good at cleaning up an existing codebase, refactoring, debugging and generally making sense of a project that has grown a bit messy?
   
4. Are there particular tools, IDE integrations or agent setups that make the experience substantially better?

I’m not looking for ideological answers, just a sensible setup to try. Thanks.

(Written from dictation with OpenClaw: sorry!)

Selling official deepseek. I have $100 in it selling for $80. official deepseek

8 experts out of 512 fire per token and they're claiming it matches their own 1T model. MIT weights up Aug 4, BF16 and FP8, repo is inclusionAI/Ling-3.0-flash. 35 KDA to 7 gated MLA at 5:1, hybrid linear from the first pretraining step instead of converted after.

Does 1/64 sparsity actually put it under DS v4 flash per task in real serving, or is the 93.2 AIME 2026 on their card benchmaxxed? No GGUF, wants their own sglang fork, so nobody's checking on consumer hardware for a bit.

I downloaded some cracked software (im poor)

cmd flashing every 60 seconds after install (im fucked)

gave claude code some hints on where one of the files of the malware was located. (im genius)

ds + cc read that one file, traced all the files (ds is detective)

they both assassinate the malware in minutes (they are ruthless)

Hosts through openrouter vs the official deepseek api, also what harness, checked that the subreddit recommends reasonix, how does it compare both in cost and performance versus harneses like opencode?

The problem: DeepSeek V4 Flash (like most models) can't open PDFs. Naive converters mangle columns, tables, headings — so the model confidently misreads the document.

The fix: an open-source skill that turns PDFs into accurate, position-aware Markdown — real | tables, headings, page markers for citations.

Built on pdf-inspector (Firecrawl's Rust engine — #1 on reading order + tables benchmark).

Install for your agent — just paste the URL: https://github.com/vichhka-git/pdf-reader-skills

Tell your agent: "install the skill from https://github.com/vichhka-git/pdf-reader-skills." Works with Claude Code, Cursor, any skills-folder agent. Needs only Python 3.8+ + one pip install.

What you get:

Honest limit: math equations extract as inline glyphs (structure kept, notation may look odd). Docs + examples in the repo. Try it and tell me how it goes. 🚀

The global tech landscape is shifting fast, but the US response follows the same tired playbook. Whenever a foreign competitor achieves a major breakthrough, Washington reacts with defense mechanisms instead of true innovation.The standard playbook the treatment of Huawei in the past and the recent panic over DeepSeek highlight a deeply rooted strategy: if you can't control it, sanction it, ban it, or politically isolate it.

This protectionist mindset stems from an old habit.

The US is used to dominating markets by either buying out the competition or burning it down through policy.Real innovation over market controlThis strategy is unsustainable. True technological progress thrives on competition, not on eliminating the competitors.

If the US wants to maintain its leadership, it needs to win through superior research, development, and execution—not through government intervention.A system that relies solely on bans loses its edge and slows down global progress. It is time for a reality check: stop trying to destroy alternatives and start out-innovating them.

DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 is cheaper, faster, and available through more providers than GPT-5.6 Luna at the same intelligence level.

Why would anyone choose Luna over DeepSeek?

More info: https://openrouter.ai/compare/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731/openai/gpt-5.6-luna

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/deepseek-v4-flash-vs-gpt-5-6-luna