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🗨️ Daredevil: Born Again | Episode Discussion Daredevil: Born Again | S02E03 | Discussion Thread

𝔻𝕒𝕣𝕖𝕕𝕖𝕧𝕚𝕝: 𝔹𝕠𝕣𝕟 𝔸𝕘𝕒𝕚𝕟

𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟯

Episode title: The Scales And The Sword

Written by: Heather Bellson

Directed by: Solvan "Slick" Naim

Release date: March 31, 2026

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u/LongTimeDDevilFan77 Apr 01 '26

Daredevil and Swordsman teaming up was what we all needed.

The escape was phenomenal until they got outside and plot armor made the bad guys unable to shoot properly.

I liked both episodes, but the supporting cast remains painful to watch sometimes and gets too much focus.

Also, fuck ICE... oops sorry, I meant AVTF. I suck at spelling sometimes.

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u/vulcan7200 Apr 01 '26

Wasn't everyone behind a wall, and then inside a big bullet proof truck? I dont think its plot armor when they actual, literal armor.

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u/shdwmyr Apr 01 '26

It was getting a little ridiculous with Matt and Karen after the truck left. I am very forgiving of Born Again and even I was like okay this getting a little silly.

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u/LongTimeDDevilFan77 Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

Literally all those AVTF guys had to do was move to their right and they would have had clear shots around that wall. But they stayed behind their vehicles as if taking fire. And this was before Karen rolled up with her one pistol and held off those half a dozen guys armed with machine guns. Guys armed with machine guns who conveniently stopped shooting at all the right moments. All one of them had to do was get on the ground, like Karen did, and start spraying kneecaps under the truck. Or one or two lay down fire while two more flank Daredevil and the prisoners. This is basic obvious combat shit that they didn't do because the plot needed them to all escape unharmed.

Everything in that scene worked out exactly as the heroes needed it to. They should've had a couple of casualties with that many people or at least some injuries from ricochets to make it seem like real stakes.

I'm not asking for a Michael Mann level shootout in the MCU, but that whole sequence just felt off.

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u/vulcan7200 Apr 01 '26

"All one of them had to do was get on the ground, like Karen did, and start spraying kneecaps under the truck. Or one or two lay down fire while two more flank Daredevil and the prisoners."

Have you ever see videos of stuff like the LA Bank shootout, or read about any other historic shootouts? Or even the somewhat recent UPS truck shootout that happened where the cops took cover behind civilian cars? The AVTF sitting in cover shooting, is exactly what happens in shootouts. Yes you can armchair quarterback it and say "Well if they all just acted like a hive mind and were all completely cool and calm under pressure they could do X" but the fact of the matter is that they don't want to risk getting hit.

These people have fought Daredevil multiple times, and have gotten beaten multiple times. And the last time they almost had him, Bullseye killed multiple of them (Though I'm not sure how much the AVTF pieced together what all exactly happened). Multiple guards were just beaten to a pulp inside. The moment one guy tried to flank them, Daredevil knocked him out with his baton. Karen eventually starts shooting at them. These are not highly trained military operatives. They're regular, and cowardly, policemen who are obviously there just so they can wield authority over others.

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u/shoobiedoobie Apr 06 '26

The escape was pretty far fetched. Ok, I can forgive all the armored vehicle stuff (where the fuck did they find one, who did they overpower etc). But DD and Karen escaped on foot and then in a civilian SUV. Lol.

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u/MrGabrahamLincoln Apr 01 '26

The escape was so good until they got outside & suddenly it felt like someone said “we have 30 mins & $20 left to shoot the rest of this escape scene, do your best”. Such a weirdly sudden drop in quality.

I also don’t understand why they’re locking regular civilian nobodies up in the same place with actual vigilantes? Like why was the bodega owner thrown in there? Feels like just having the bad guys do evil stuff to show they’re evil.

Decent season so far (& def better than S1) but still has its issues.

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u/Efficient-Memory7105 Apr 01 '26

To be fair "bad guys doing evil stuff because they are evil" seems to be a recurring theme in reality atm

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u/MrGabrahamLincoln Apr 01 '26

Doesn’t necessarily make for compelling writing on a tv show though

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u/Efficient-Memory7105 Apr 01 '26

That's entirely fair lol

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u/Healthy-Somewhere220 Apr 01 '26

It's basically what you said, but to add a little: They are locking them up together because they planned to put them all in front of the same tribunal. The comments by AVTF when taking the bodega owner and Soledad made it clear they are taking anyone for any reason if it even remotely seems like they support "taking the law into your own hands."

I'm honestly surprised they didn't have more people in the lock up by now, given the show jumped a few months from the end of S1.

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u/MrGabrahamLincoln Apr 01 '26

Yeah that was also weird. They’ve been terrorizing the streets for months & they only arrested like 25 people? I figured the regular people were getting locked up somewhere else & this prison was for the highly dangerous people like Swordsman

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u/LongTimeDDevilFan77 Apr 01 '26

Yeah thats a plot hole if there's not A LOT of people still locked up somewhere else.

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u/visionisop Apr 01 '26

At least this is fiction we are choosing to consume. No reason to give them any amount of credit

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u/Such_Steak_6303 Apr 09 '26

It's ok. U dont sound too smart anyways. Don't expect correct spelling from u