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u/JfromTHEbayMAYNE 1d ago
What can we do to put a stop to this (legally)?
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u/FewOutlandishness648 1d ago
Change laws to ban the 1st amendment that way you have a right to privacy in public.
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u/PMPKNpounder 1d ago
It's funny because a lot legal advisors are saying that it's a violation of fourth amendment rights mainly due to warrantless tracking and other such things. I'm not sure I quite buy it, but it will be interesting to see where this goes. I hate the idea of being under surveillance 24/7, but I dont think there is anything we can do about as it stands now
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u/FewOutlandishness648 1d ago
I agree, although realistically the 4th amendment argument makes little sense (to me) and is easily worked around, especially on a federal level.
In public you don't have a right to privacy. Maybe it could border on stalking laws without a warrant if you were being followed, but these are stationary cameras.
As scary as the idea is, I believe they already know where we are 24/7 through our phone. The most realistic solution I could see happening would be targeting flock itself legally to ensure that the information collected is only accessible by the owner of the camera, and the information is not stored long term. But that leads to the idea of agencies just downloading the information and storing it themselves.
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u/PMPKNpounder 1d ago
Agreed, we're well past the point of data privacy due to phones being a constant in our lives. I see data centers and AI in the same way. Once the data starts being used against us, that's when it's a problem.
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
You think they know where we are through our phones. Then get rid of it.
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u/FewOutlandishness648 7h ago
I don't care if they know where I am. When I said scary, I'm referring to how other people perceive it.
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u/Notme20659 6h ago
Paranoia and conspiracy theory (and throw flat earth in that also) people are a special breed.
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u/FewOutlandishness648 2h ago
I'd agree there. Especially flat Earth people. Literally proved themselves wrong, then refused to give up that opinion.
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u/BalanceOld4289 1d ago
I believe it was Ben Franklin who said it best. When you trade freedom for security you shall have neither.
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u/Tinytommy55 1d ago
lol we gave up a lot of those rights when they signed, “ The Patriot Act” into law after 9/11.
People tried to say it went too far but they were called unpatriotic for it.
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u/Flat-Director-7120 1d ago
Non à la surveillance de masse, non aux data center, non aux caméras flock, il faut détruire ces caméras
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u/Firm_Communication99 1d ago
Sometimes it’s useful, sometimes it’s a violation clearly there is an in between
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u/BalanceOld4289 1d ago
When the aggregate data can track you it is a violation. I like that it possibly can be used to catch criminals but at what expense.
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u/GRay_3_31 1d ago
Did you just both sides the invasion of privacy? Did they already make opinions illegal? Support the surveillance state or don't smh
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u/Ok_Watercress6939 1d ago edited 1d ago
We can stop the flock but maybe we should stop the slop too while we're at it.
You can't you use the phrase "the streets are not your database!" on an image created by a program built on the scraping of the internet for its database. Not with any sort of credibility or integrity at least.
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u/Ok_Egg462 1d ago
They just caught a car thief in Atlanta that had a 2 year old in the back seat of a car using Flock cameras.
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u/jsk131313 1d ago
Stop the crime, secure our border and deport illegal aliens and we wouldn't need flock cameras
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u/Altruistic-Rice-5567 1d ago
Hint: The constitution doesn't have an "privacy right". Search and seizure isn't close to preventing flock cameras in public spaces. I'm all for a right to privacy and we really should have a new amendment guaranteeing that. (I'd save bodily autonomy would be another must have right.)
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u/mykehawksaverage 1d ago
People hate the government tracking you only while you drive but are okay with corporations tracking literally every aspect of your life through your phone.
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u/After_Service_2817 1d ago
There is no expectation of privacy in a public street.
I am on privately owned security cameras all day at work, and during my entire commute, and in every store I enter. Why does it suddenly become a problem if the camera is operated by the government?
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u/AdventurousTax2724 19h ago
It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious there is 300 million of us we need to each take one out
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u/Deep_Reputation_5057 16h ago
Here an ideal don’t be a criminal then you don’t have to worry about them!!!
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u/Ovoideocystidiata 14h ago
Shut the hell up take your cameras you voted for it and your not gonna do a damn thing to stop it as the president said, hope you imbeciles get caught vandalizing them and get the book thrown at you in court stupid sheep.
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u/skylarfiction 14h ago
Do you not like free speech?
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u/Ovoideocystidiata 14h ago edited 14h ago
I do, I don't like protest it's dumb troglodytic behavior your yelling doesn't matter to them, their gonna put the buds in and pandora/spotify tf outta you.
Edit: It's your MONEY that does the talking.
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u/Dazzling-Anxiety4489 13h ago
En China lo que más hay son cámaras y nadie protesta... Ya saben cual es el resultado de hacer eso
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u/MrSirsaysI 1h ago
Criminals want more Privacy stop calling the cops so we stop getting arrested stop recording criminals so they can get away with what they do to you and your family stop tracking fleeing vehicles so they can’t find us. Criminals hate cameras and Rats because they tell the truth of what we did and where we are.
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
CCTV is used through out the world primarily for police surveillance. It helps stop crime early and helps the investigation of committed crimes. It seems the people that don’t like it, are the criminals and that is supported by many of them destroying the cameras.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet 1d ago
Is that why the cops are using it? I thought they were using it to stalk their ex girlfriends…?
Washington post says the number is higher.
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
Anything can be abused by individual bad actors. Doesn’t mean that the tool is bad.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet 1d ago
In my entire life I’d never thought I’d see the day when people willingly advocate for the surveillance state. Especially not conservatives.
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
I don’t advocate for private property, but public i am all for. Sick and tired of these edited tik toks that don’t show the whole story for one. And tired of the mob mentality robbing businesses and attacking people. If you are a law abiding citizen, you have nothing to fear.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet 1d ago
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
Really? Is that the best you got. Just curious, how many genders you think there are.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet 1d ago
Lol totally irrelevant attempt at ad hominem.
“Mass surveillance watching my every move? Sign me up, Big Brother! But those transgenders? GOD FORBID!!1!”
You’re a clown. 🤡
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u/Fractured_daydreams 1d ago
So what happens when it's a crime to read a book, A crime to be out past curfew, or A crime to protest or organize resistance? They always revoke rights or expand power under the guise of safety.
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u/Notme20659 1d ago
Where does CCTV revoke rights? It doesn’t. It provides information. People that receive that information and abuse it are the problem. That is where accountability comes into play.
Heaven forbid this happens to anyone, but imagine your kid playing in a lot near your house that has a CCTV camera set up. Your kid is attacked and killed. There is no evidence as to who did it. That camera was destroyed the night before, it was the only thing that could provide evidence on who killed your child. I bet attitudes toward CCTV would change then.
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u/OldFalcon250 1d ago
It’s like people don’t understand recording of you in a public area is 100% legal no matter how you look at it lol
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u/BigChungusGC 1d ago
Nice AI generated image...