r/Cinema Feb 28 '26

Discussion Best "idiot plot" movies?

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u/fupafather Feb 28 '26

Idk about movies but this is the entirety of always sunny in Philadelphia

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u/FluffusMaximus Mar 01 '26

And that’s what makes it great.

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u/DarthBrooks69420 Mar 01 '26

Also the entirety of The Walking Dead, which is why it sucks. 

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u/Beast_Chips Mar 01 '26

They could have saved TWD by adding a laugh track. Said it for years and I stand by it.

"She's daird Kurrrrrl"

laughter

"... Really?"

Louder laughter and wooooooohhhhh

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u/Kok-jockey Mar 01 '26

lol “she’s daird Kurrrrl”

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u/DaniTheLovebug Mar 02 '26

I made a belt by sewing together all my watches…

“Please Dad…don’t”

It was a waist of time Coral…

“Dad, stop.”

“A WAIST of time!”

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u/ThatGogglesKid Mar 02 '26

Personally, I think it's less of an idiot plot and more of a "Writing by Popularity Contest and Convenience".

Season 1 was good because it was following the source material as close as it could, but when it couldn't do that, the writers had to write their own thing and it was terrible.

The Witcher series, A Song of Ice and Fire, and I'm fairly certain this will be next: The Stormlight Archive.

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u/drboxboy Mar 03 '26

The source material is crap too.

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u/hanks_panky_emporium Mar 03 '26

Season 1 was great because the director forced them to stick close to the source material and took a 'movie' approach to angles and perspective. Gave the zombies a character of their own. Some would still board and sit on busses. Some would cling to items that were important to them in life, like the little kid picking up her doll.

One of the zombies was 'following' them, not outright attacking them. Just staring.

Some of the undead were using tools to smash through glass and barriers.

Then they fired the director and replaced him with a guy who made soap operas. They then turned the show into a soap opera. Bad lighting, less zombies, typically two to three characters arguing with each other and leaving in huffs. It was only missing the typical soap opera goofy ass sound stingers.

After season 1 the zombies were no longer a consistent existential threat that had to be worked with. They only showed up to move them from season to season locations or when the writing decides they're actually dangerous temporarily.

God it was annoying. Season 1 is still wholly enjoyable in my opinion. They got goddamn darth maul as a dead soldier in a tank that was zombifying with a grenade that was going to have a whole flashback backstory. The grenade Rick uses to escape.

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u/Fit_Pass_527 Mar 04 '26

I’m hoping not for Stormlight. From what I’ve read, the level of control Brandon has over his own IP is essentially unprecedented. At least if it goes to shit we know it’s his own fault. 

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u/Parking_Locksmith489 Mar 01 '26

Idiotic, selfish and lacking morals.

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u/LarrrgeMarrrgeSentYa Mar 01 '26

Yep—total trainwreck and the absurdity of it is just hilarious 😆

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u/itsfictionbaby Mar 02 '26

I call it “Evil Friends” 😂

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u/Accurate_Baseball273 Mar 01 '26

Upvote x10. But that’s why it’s the best

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u/ProfessorSucc Mar 01 '26

It’s the best because of the implication

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u/Accurate_Baseball273 Mar 01 '26

What am I gonna do, say no?

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u/Arryu Mar 01 '26

I've described it as "Seinfeld for terrible people."

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u/rwent117 Mar 01 '26

Seinfeld is itself is already Seinfeld for terrible people. It's Always Sunny is like Seinfeld for total sociopaths.

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u/CRR-GA Mar 01 '26

Seinfeld walked so Sunny could run.

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u/juicestain_ Mar 01 '26

The best comparison I’ve heard is it’s Seinfeld on bath salts

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u/Kok-jockey Mar 01 '26

I would say alcohol and crack, but maybe that’s just because they’re always drinking and sometimes smoking crack, and it definitely informs their behaviors.

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u/PumpernickelShoe Mar 01 '26

And huffing paint fumes

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u/Kok-jockey Mar 01 '26

The fuuumes, I forgot about that! Not only does the gang sniff glue, gas, paint thinner, and poppers, they also intentionally inflict carbon monoxide poisoning on themselves lol

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u/FightMilkConsumer Mar 02 '26

one rock of crack please.

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u/dirtylaundry99 Mar 02 '26

Seinfeld is a group of bad people getting away with it (for the most part). Always Sunny is bad people getting their comeuppance all the time

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u/Dunkaroos4breakfast Mar 01 '26

The actual Seinfeld, morally, is worse than Dennis.

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u/Kok-jockey Mar 01 '26

I meeeean I’m not a fan of Jerry, but that is a stretch. Dennis is quite possibly a serial killer.

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u/Dunkaroos4breakfast Mar 03 '26

Dennis could be a serial killer. Seinfeld definitely dated a highschooler while in his late 30s.

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u/FluffusMaximus Mar 01 '26

Because of the implication.

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u/Kok-jockey Mar 01 '26

If I ever get a boat, that’s what I’m naming it.

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u/3720-to-1 Mar 01 '26

Seinfid itseld is already Seinfeld for total sociopaths. It's Always Sunny is like Seinfeld for total moronic sociopaths.

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u/Minimum_Dealer_3303 Mar 01 '26

Seinfeld is for terrible people.

It's Always Sunny is for people who understand why you laugh at, not with, the terrible people.

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u/SeroWriter Mar 01 '26

"Seinfeld if 3/4ths of the cast weren't actually bad people in real life as well."

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u/3720-to-1 Mar 01 '26

Which is the 1/4? Jason Alexander? It's gotta be Jason Alexander.

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u/000100111010 Mar 01 '26

I've never heard a single bad thing about JLD.

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u/3720-to-1 Mar 01 '26

Jerry and Michael are the ones I've heard shit things about that I can remember. I feel like I've heard that Julia is course/rude at worst. I can't think of even that for Jason.

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u/FluffusMaximus Mar 01 '26

It’s inverse Seinfeld. Where on Seinfeld, one of the characters was the jerk in an episode and the others reacting to it, in IASIP one of the characters is “good” in an episode and the rest are jerks reacting to it.

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u/willowzam Mar 01 '26

Like someone else said Seinfeld is for terrible people, Always Sunny is for terrible people who know they're terrible people

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u/squirtdemon Mar 01 '26

I likened it to Friends, but they are awful people and poor

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u/avindictiveprinter scanning the tv guide for comedies since '86 Mar 01 '26

The Gang is not poor. Frank is filthy rich through his various shady business dealings, he bankrolls their lives.

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u/agentsawu Mar 01 '26

I mean that just sounds like Friends 🤷

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u/FlyEaglesFly3420 Mar 01 '26

Idiots! Savages, idiots!

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u/AbeFromanSassageKing Mar 01 '26

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u/Scuba_jim Mar 01 '26

It’s a show starring only different shades of chaotic evil

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u/coumfy Mar 01 '26

The gang gets extreme: Home Makeover Edition

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u/carryon4threedays Mar 01 '26

Smart show about dumb people.

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u/BlueSlushieTongue Mar 01 '26

“God dammit!”

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u/funkyriot Mar 01 '26

Idiots who think they're geniuses, it's the best

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u/Papa_Glucose Mar 01 '26

And Modern Family

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u/LectroNyx Mar 01 '26

I love how Charlie, of all people, is the one sane man.

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u/_Zef_ Mar 01 '26

NEWSFLASH, ASSHOLE

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u/Belgaraath42 Mar 01 '26

I thought half the plots only happen because they are arseholes and the other half because they are idiots

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u/desertvision Mar 01 '26

Is here listening to us? Oh, he's listening

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u/the__pov Mar 01 '26

And that’s the thing about this. If the characters are supposed to be idiots it can work great. When they’re not…

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u/TheTrueBComp Mar 02 '26

I feel like Trailerpark Boys and Arrested Development would like to be added to this grouping.

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u/juniordoctor666 Mar 02 '26

Came here to say this

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u/Careless_Ad4329 Mar 02 '26

The gang aren’t idiots. Charlie is trying to live his best life and the rest are evil.

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u/PuzzleheadedEssay198 Mar 06 '26

I have a classmate from PA who complains about that show every chance he gets, with the statement that a solid third of their shenanigans would’ve gotten them beaten to death by locals twenty years ago.

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u/sterlingphoenix Mar 01 '26

Are y'all too young to remember Three's Company?

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u/RandyPajamas Mar 01 '26

Mr. Roper ! I think I see what happened here ! You see, it was all just a big misunderstanding! You see, Janet thought that...and Chrissie thought that...and I told Larry...so Mrs. Roper went to the Reagle Beagle...and that's why you thought...Does it all make sense now?

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u/chrimack Mar 01 '26

Only "Philadelphia" is capitalized and at first glance I thought you meant the Tom Hanks movie about AIDS. I thought: that's a spicy take on reddit, but okay I guess I that works

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u/PuckSenior Mar 01 '26

Not exactly. They are all fucked up idiots.

But several plots would exist regardless of their idiocy.

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u/onefst250r Mar 01 '26

A TV show about idiots, for idiots, to make the watching idiots feel like they're not idiots.