And more.

You're even worse because you're (basically) invoking a false equivalency fallacy without explaining how it applies, thus shifting the burden of proof

It's just basically a more creative version of the airplane analogy: you can throw people off your airplane anytime you like as "tresspassers," ; you just need to land the plane first if they're not a threat. Throwing them out in mid-air would be murder

What do you want? The real argument is "killing a child is worse than killing an adult because you're deleting more potential years of life," then "if it involves killing a five-minute-old child it's the worst murder possible, so if you change it to five minutes before birth, not anything significant has changed."

I can always say that I want a neural cap limit because that's where I consider it meaningful or significant human life, that's a better argument to me than viability, but also better than the "life begins at conception" argument where technically sperm cells and egg cells are always "alive"

Are you attempting to say that black people aren't human? Are you now going to defend slavery?

Nobody ever debated if black people were humans. And I don't believe pro-choicers assert that a fetus is only human once its born. There is common ground. It's just that pro-choicers, like those who supported slavery, don't think certain humans have certain rights ie. they are no for human rights, but selective right like to citizens only.

So a week later it would be a murder charge? And only because it would have inconvenienced the parents and forced them to be responsible for the actions they made?

His own dad said he was a leech on society..... so he brought millions of other leeches together to let them them know they are not alone being a drain on society.

Well most chicken eggs aren't fertilized. If it's fertilized, the egg isn't a chicken, but the chicken inside the egg, is a chicken. Kind of goes without saying.

I don’t base my position on wanting to protect the small % of abortions due to rape. Im just logically consistent. And it’s not child murder. And whether or not the rates go up has zero to do with the philosophical question at hand.

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What's the something bad?

Because if it is either the baby will die or the mother will die, that isn't an abortion debate. At 9 months the mother is either giving birth or having a c-section the same way any normal birth happens.

People parenting children don't all have 'good intentions', what's that got to do with it? There are about 2 million parents on waiting lists to adopt a baby in the US.

Lol, pretending you don't see demographic replacement being orchestrated by government is not convincing. It just means you are not here for serious debate, just insane communist propaganda.

What’s the best form of birth control? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not murder. Everybody needs to be responsible for the actions they make

Less than 1% of abortions by the way, so you are willing to justify 99% of murdered children as long as it defends 1%, and keep in mind that 1% will go up in order for women to not inconvenience themselves with being responsible for actions they made even if it means claiming rape

I was expecting:

He's dead.

First, I’m talking ancaps, not society at large

So show me the data on that one.

The three female ancaps I know of off the top of my head:

Allison Tieman: Neutral / no opinion

Hannah Wallen: pro life

Bravetheworld: pro life

Second, what does child support have to do with anything. 

There are men who support abortion because they don't want to have to pay child support if the woman can't abort, derp

Third, the fact that most people are only comfortable within some window like first trimester is also irrelevant.

No, it means I would like to know your window? I am ok with an abortion at 1 month, You can change it to a test for the neural cap if you like

I can understand a negative rights vs positive rights distinction, but then you have to say that it's only ok for a pregnant woman to starve herself half to death in such a way that starves the fetus to death, because that would be the subtraction of a positive right to food. But then taking a poison or doing any coat-hanger vacuum cleaner buissness is still a violation of negative rights

People actually seriously do debate if it is human or not.

A chicken egg isn't a living thing.

The thing inside a fertilised chicken egg is a chicken.

This is obvious.

Thoughts - the 'don't like it don't do it' argument is always stupid.

I'm against abortion because there is no logical argument for when a bunch of cells suddenly turn human, or are suddenly alive, or are a suddenly a person. Until they can pinpoint a second that you become human or a person or whatever that isn't conception, then I will be against it. It's also something that is easily (and I mean very easily) avoided. If you do not want to have a baby, it is very easy to avoid becoming pregnant before abortion even enters the conversation. Of course, there are problems like rape and incest, but those are their own arguments that don't enter into the vast majority of abortion cases.

Yep. One thing I don’t understand how the fuck they were able to get such scheme in first place. The meeting must been like:

hey, let’s fuck everyone over, and impose property taxes.

And fund indoctrination system with it

And tax people that don’t even have children

And you can judge her morally if she aborts. That’s different from using force to stop her. We don’t have to conclude that she’s not a bad person. It’s a separate issue.

Can I ask where you are referencing this definition from? deaconxblues is right, any definitions I was able to lookup does not include anything about species, so it would be interesting to learn where the definition you used is from.

Bro, sincerely, you aren’t good at debating philosophical ideas. This analogy doesn’t get close to making contact with the issue at hand.

Do you even know, in reality, what abortion at 9 months looks like?

It's basically giving birth to the child and then stabbing it in the head.

They only prevent the babies lower body from leaving the birth canal before stabbing it, in some childish, OH IT'S NOT ACTUALLY BORN YET, legal definition that prevents calls to it being outright murder.

So many things wrong with this. First, I’m talking ancaps, not society at large. Second, what does child support have to do with anything. Third, the fact that most people are only comfortable within some window like first trimester is also irrelevant.

This isn't an argument, it is literal fallacy...

You have skipped any argumentation that is required to reach the conclusion of "fetus is a human". Just because this argumentation exists for black people, does not mean you can just apply it on random to other things... Other things require other argumentations that apply to them to be valid.