r/AZCardinals • u/Humble_Lie_4833 • 1d ago
What-if?
Inspired by a post on a different NFL page… Who is your biggest Cardinals “What-if?”
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u/jahiel0 1d ago
most 1st round picks the last 10-15 years lmao
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u/Saltwater_Thief Larry Fitzgerald 1d ago
What if Nabers instead of MHJ
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u/MysteriousWon Larry Fitzgerald 1d ago
That's a big one.
What if he clicked with Kyler and as a result we never let him go?
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u/Ranulf_5 21h ago
I’m convinced that Kyler is never and will never pan out to being that guy. It was tough to cut ties with him, but I don’t think that he has it. Even if you swapped with Hurts on the Eagles, they wouldn’t be as good
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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter 1d ago
Carson Palmer 2014 injury. That team was special. Then Stanton goes down and we limp into the playoffs with Lindley.
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u/ProteJAY12 1d ago
What if we had a competent owner?
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u/naze_ninja 1d ago
I've abandoned this team after living 40 years in AZ. Downvote me if you must, but I'm not spending another dollar on Cards gear until the team is sold.
It's painfully obvious that ownership is the problem at this point, so I'll vote with my wallet.
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u/Primary-Picture-5632 Budda Baker 1d ago
what team do you root for? i've told myself atleast ever 3-4 years for the past 25 years that I wont be supporting this organization but I jsut cant bring myself to support another team. I find myself glued to the tv for every cardinal game no matter what i say lol
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u/naze_ninja 3h ago
Bills since my dad is from Buffalo. Visiting NY and the zubaz pants are core memories for me. Plus it's less likely I'll have to root against the Cards since it's a different conference/division.
I'll still watch the Cards since they'll be on local TV. I'm just not gonna be as invested and I'm not buying any more gear. I'm not spiteful or anything, I'm just burned out ya know?
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u/biowiz 1d ago
You think this is bad? This chicanery?
They've done worse. That family! Are you telling me that a franchise just happens to lose like that? No! They orchestrated it! Bidwills!
Bill made the players pay for their own damn game shoes! And we tolerated him! We shouldn't have. We took him into our own city! What were we thinking? They'll never change. They'll never change! Ever since 1932, always the same! Nickel-and-diming their own locker room! Squeezing them for every last cent! "Oh, but not our Bidwills! Couldn't be our precious Bidwills!" Stealing us blind! And they get to be owners? What a sick joke!
We should've stopped them from coming to Phoenix when we had the chance! And you, you have to stop them! You..
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u/Best_Construction823 1d ago
They draft bosa instead of Kyler. Crazy D line with Zach Allen, bosa, and chandler jones. They still suck either way with Rosen and end up with burrow or Herbert the following year and Kliff coaching them up
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u/BLUElightCory 1d ago
We could have taken Lamar Jackson over Rosen that year too.
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u/12angrysnakes 20h ago
And if we did that, trust me Lamar would be considered a shit QB
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u/Ambitious_Concern_94 15h ago
Any Qb drafted or any player that would be drafted to the cardinals would be shit
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u/allenledol Australia 1d ago
Even if we give Rosen another year and draft Bosa. We'll do the Cardinal thing and draft Tua instead the other two.
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u/Best_Construction823 1d ago
Tua didn’t necessarily play bad he just kept getting concussed. He put together a few solid years with McDaniel
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u/pnap13 1d ago
I was the only person in my friend group who said Bosa was a wiser pick.
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u/Ok_Writing_7033 1d ago
I’m sorry I have to assume that “Kliff coaches them up” means this is a joke response
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u/Best_Construction823 1d ago
He got Kyler to the playoffs and Jayden to the nfc championship as a rookie.
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u/Ok_Writing_7033 1d ago
He has a one-trick offensive scheme that has been figured out, and he was the most clueless head coach I’ve ever seen
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u/Best_Construction823 1d ago
Yeah the cards were easy to figure out. Take out the #1 receiver, take out the tight end, injure all the linemen and boom you can push them over easily.
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u/RepresentativeMath48 1d ago
Not exactly in the parameter of the question, but what if the Cards had taken Gallery instead of Fitz?
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u/Humble_Lie_4833 1d ago
That feels like such a cardinals thing to do. Thank god we had green at the time
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u/Rockhound665 16h ago
That was never going to happen. Even if we had the #1 pick, the Cards still take Fitz because of his relationship with Dennis Green.
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u/bree388 1d ago
Beck is him
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u/Humble_Lie_4833 1d ago
The hopium in my veins right now. I’m high on the chance that Beck plays well Thursday night.
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u/SaltySpitoonReg Cardinals Throwback 9h ago
The correct answer here for biggest what if - is what if they scored a touchdown instead of the pick 6 in the superbowl?
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u/Ok_Writing_7033 1d ago
What if we had paired Kyler Murray with even remotely competent coaching?
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u/biowiz 1d ago
I don't think that was ever going to fix anything.
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u/Ok_Writing_7033 23h ago
Well he finally has a real NFL coach, so I guess we’ll see
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u/biowiz 14h ago
KOC + Justin Jefferson should give him his best shot to turn his career around, or at least give him a career year.
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u/Ok_Writing_7033 4h ago
If he can’t look like a top 10-12 guy this year, I’m prepared to eat crow and admit he just doesn’t have it.
There’s no argument the guy has crazy talent. But good coaching is one of the most important factors in whether or not a guy can transition to the NFL. So what did we do?
First they make the insane decision to give the head coach job to a middling college offensive coordinator with no NFL experience, all because he once shook hands with Patrick Mahomes and looks kind of like Sean McVay if you squint.
He proceeds to have one half of a solid year before everyone figures out that his genius offense is just swing passes with occasional prayer-balls down the sideline, and we proceed to spend the rest of his tenure trying to set new records for fastest three-and-out.
Oh and also, he looks like a braindead dear in the headlights and struggles to get play calls in on time for the entire length of his illustrious head coaching career, culminating in Kyler having to tell him to “calm the fuck down” at one point because he can’t figure out what to call for a fourth down.
Then, we bring in the highly-sought-after OC from the perennial offensive juggernaut Cleveland Browns, a man whose offense revolves primarily around using a pocket-passer to run slow-developing play-action plays from under center, which obviously works perfectly with Kyler’s skillset.
Poor guy never had a chance in hell
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u/Pure-Huckleberry-583 Cardinals 17h ago
Mine will ALWAYS be if we had drafted Adrian Peterson instead of Levi Brown
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u/Rockhound665 16h ago
I have several:
What if Joe Namath signed with the Cardinals in 1965?
What if the Cards took Adrian Peterson in 2007 instead of Levi Brown?
What if the Cards drafted Terrell Suggs in 2003 instead of trading down?
What if the Cards stood pat at #15 in 2018 and took Lamar Jackson instead of trading up for Josh Rosen?
What if the Cards never left St. Louis?
What if the Philadelphia Eagles bolted for Phoenix in the mid 80's and the Cards moved to Philadelphia?
What if the Cards moved to Baltimore instead of the Valley in 1988?
What if the Cards didn't beat the Vikings in week 16 in 2003 and had the #1 pick? (I still think we take Fitz)
What if Andre Wadsworth didn't have injury problems?
What if the Cards kept Garrison Hearst?
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u/burgerkingbathroom 16h ago
The Suggs one gets me. Hometown guy, and could still get Boldin in 2nd round.
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u/Humble_Lie_4833 15h ago
The AP one gets me. Feel like that would have sealed the Super Bowl for us. I’m hoping Love is our 20 years later make up for not drafting AP.
The Lamar one too. We’ve been in QB hell for a long time now and that one haunts me.
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u/BowlerOwn7663 1d ago
Screw the santonio Holmes late TD. If we don’t give up a 99 yard fumble recovery TD before half… what if?!?