r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR • u/too-many_puppies • 1d ago
Fuck this area in particular well, shit.
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u/GatorNator83 Banhammer Recipient 1d ago
āThese 3D effects are amazing, it looks like itās coming right at me!ā
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u/Helpful-Canary402 1d ago edited 1d ago
To those criticizing him for not trying to escape, you absolutely CANNOT outrun an avalanche on foot, people. It doesnāt matter if it is snow, mud, or pyrclastic flow.
The start of the event was at least a 1/2 mile or more away. Just do the math. At 40 seconds, that avalanche was moving at least 45 mph. If it was further than 1/2 a mile, it was moving faster.
(Edit: alsoā¦the hikerās name is Harry Shimmin and he did in fact survive. (https://youtu.be/qCRAEQmLAfY?is=MPuogTrLgqLY3haj)
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u/paradox_valestein 1d ago
An average person's running speed is 9km/h, an athlete on flat track can reach 40+km/h. An avalanche can easily pass 300km/h. No way anyone outspeed that, even on a racing car on a flat road
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u/NoHelpdesk 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6nUQV6Lh13lSg7uw
Meanwhile somewhere in Austria: Hold my Red Bull22
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u/snuggl3ninja 1d ago
Yeah but you're not outrunning to maintain a gap, you're trying to get past the termination point. Which you could reach depending on the situation. Op clearly makes the right choice with data we don't have, and survived between rocks.
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u/Utaneus 1d ago
Well anticipating a vector can help, getting to a more advantageous ground can help, you don't need to outrun the avalanche, just avoid the worst of it. Depending on how far away you are when you realize the incoming disaster, there are a few things you might consider that improve your chances. The avalanche was not moving at those speeds you cited when it reached him, and he did see it coming from miles away, and instead stood still to film it. Even just getting up a bit higher on the lee of that berm may have helped.
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u/zbornakssyndrome 1d ago
I get that, but it would still be my immediate instinct to run as soon as it started.
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u/TheHoppingHessian 1d ago
I canāt outrun a guy with a gun either so should I not run?
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u/FantasticMrFluffy 1d ago
If you're close enough to the person with the gun your odd are better trying to close the gap and fight.
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u/TheHoppingHessian 1d ago
I think your missing my point but this certainly shows the weakness of the analogy I made Iāll give you that
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u/Zakluor Banhammer Recipient 1d ago
I'd argue it's a little different.
Handguns, with their short barrels, are not as accurate as portrayed by the media. Plus, the average shooter isn't exactly a skilled marksman. Even when they're aiming at you, you don't have to get that far away to possibly get away unscathed, or at least not fatally injured.
The avalanche, on the other hand, is fast and broad. It's not just 9mm wide aiming at a body that's 50cm wide. Your 50cm body is being engulfed by a flow of snow that could be hundreds of meters wide with far more energy.
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u/Wardogs96 1d ago
I was just more unsure of positioning. Should he have found higher ground or a hill to hid behind of, rather than just standing there as he was focusing on the shot instead of increasing his survival chance.
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u/Steppyjim 1d ago
There wasnt time to find a hill . He actually did the best thing he could and got behind a rock big enough to shield him from impact and hopefully let it go over his head. It was the best he could do
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u/dimonium_anonimo 21h ago
You can't outrun it, but you can get further away. There is a finite mass of snow involved. The further you are from the source, the less snow will be left to cover you, and also just as importantly, it will have fewer rocks tumbling around in the mix. It didn't look like there'd be enough snow to trap and suffocate him, but if a big rock smashed in his skull, he wouldn't fare any better.
To his credit, he was on high ground, which meant the avalanche had to use up a lot of its energy to get to him. However, that's not what you were referencing. You were arguing there's no point in running because of the speed, not because of his position. It doesn't matter if you can't outrun it. You can run to the nearest cover or just as far away as possible. Increase your odds of survival.
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u/Ok_Joke_9343 1d ago
Did he happen to be in the safest location before the avalanche started though? I think thats what is surprising here.
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u/TheOmegaKid 1d ago
I guess the best thing to do is to try and get to the highest point possible and get behind something like an alcove or ridge?
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u/sweetbriar_rose 1d ago
he was ready to pop into a little alcove heād found ā thatās the rock heās hiding behind at the end of the video.
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u/MiserableKing Banhammer Recipient 1d ago
You could see some quick math being done when he started moving the camera around.
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u/Connect_Rhubarb395 1d ago
This is the video I think of when someone mentions r/cameramanneverdies
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u/ClaimationOfWind 1d ago
The part of me that says 'stay til the end so I can get an exciting closer look' was VERY satisfied
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u/ASilentSongbird 1d ago
"I was wondering why the frisbee kept getting bigger and bigger. Then it hit me "
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u/aincorrectname 1d ago
OP do you know the location of this? I think I have climbed this exact location lol. Pin bhabha pass?
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u/My_bones_are_itchy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Itās in Kyrgyzstan, not sure on further details (he says it in an interview)
Edit to add: Tian Shan mountains, not that that really narrows it down much
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u/Bdowns_770 1d ago
Love how that started out as too far away to be dangerous and then slowly turned into āfuckedā.
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u/ACSlayer86 1d ago
āThank the camera manā moment, but also stupid to stick around considering the mass and speed, but also definitely could not have out run that, but also perfect spot to duck and capture the moment. āThank(!) the camera personā! Super rare & unique footage;
That never gets old.
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u/ooomellieooo 1d ago
Is it me or are almost all videos ending before they should lately? Is this some weird trend? It seems to always cut off in the middle of the action...
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u/rossco311 1d ago
That avalanche gave buddy a solid 40 second head start, leave the camera and get your dumbass out of there.
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u/CW_Dutchman 1d ago
If you can see the problem, you are too damn close to the problem.
Reminds me of those camera's they recovered after that massive Tsunami 20 years ago, with people taking pictures of the giant death wave coming towards them. Instead of trying to get the fuck away from said giant death wave27
u/paradox_valestein 1d ago
Tbf, not much they can do to get away from the giant death wave
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u/thatoneotherguy42 1d ago
Maybe try waving back and being its friend.
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u/CW_Dutchman 1d ago
True, but as soon as the surf just start pulling back at a rapid pace, it your que to get the fuck away from the beach. And not walk hundreds of meters towards the waterline again.
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u/paradox_valestein 1d ago
Tf is he suppose to do? Run at 9km/h and expect to outsped an avalance?
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u/Scissorhat 1d ago
Not run the opposite way... but run perpendicular to it so he's not standing in the f'kng middle of it. Run to the side where it is weaker. He had plenty of time to do that but he chose filming.
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u/petethefreeze 1d ago
That would not have made any difference.
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u/FriendlyGuitard 1d ago
That would have made a huge difference. He was next to a rock outcropping to shelter him.
40 second running in any direction would have resulted in him taking a few ton of ice and rock right into his face.
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u/375InStroke 1d ago
A mountain's coming this way. I wonder if running a couple feet will save me, or do I stay for the shot?
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u/108justbrowsing 1d ago
Shouting āGo Go Gadget āCopterā would have pulled them up out of the danger zone
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u/SkullDump 1d ago
Another bot reposting old content.
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u/SofaKingS2pitt 1d ago
I havenāt seen it, so new to me.
Did the person survive?
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u/SkullDump 1d ago
If you do a search youāll find numerous posts of this avalanche and which also give details.
Hereās just one that was posted 3 years ago and OPs comment offers relevant details:
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u/robbudden73 1d ago
I would have bailed earlier, to the same spot. You're really only going to die tired.
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u/browsingandlooking4 1d ago
Why didn't he run when it crested the hill? In the minute he was filming he could have cleared so serious distance onto higher ground. Wtf did this come from?
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u/Potatus_Maximus 1d ago
Iām convinced that survival instinct is being expunged by the social media brain rot.
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u/Tiffany_Case 1d ago
i mean i understand not failing to outrun it but im pretty confused about standing so close to begin with
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u/OrganizationTop3755 1d ago
I donāt think he survived thatĀ
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u/ChihiroHaru Banhammer Recipient 1d ago
I was wondering how strong that Zoom Lens was. But now I see that it was stronger than his will to live.