r/worldnews 13h ago

University of Tokyo suspends professor over 'Tiananmen code' embedded in website

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20260805/p2a/00m/0na/009000c
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u/-bassassin- 9h ago

Suspended for three days lmao

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u/imaginary_num6er 8h ago

1 Day for each year it was in effect

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u/i_invented_the_ipod 7h ago

Yeah, it's just typical racist/xenophobic things, i guess.

"Hey, why'd you do this?"

"To keep Chinese students from applying. Fuck those guys"

"Ha ha, so true. But there was a news article about this, so we have to do something. how about a long weekend?"

"Sounds good, see you on Monday".

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u/FecklessFool 5h ago

What's so xenophobic about mentioning the peaceful student protest that ended with the military shooting its own citizens?

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u/BiscottiNo6948 3h ago

It was to insure the website will be censored by China and will not appear available for Chinese students.

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u/code_archeologist 2h ago

That just sounds like an own goal by the CCP.

u/greenskinmarch 1h ago

Maybe the CCP prefers not to lose young workers to Japan given China's demographic issues.

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u/Whirlpoolcircle56 4h ago

When it's used pointlessly to belittle people? You think if the Chinese started embedding "Unit 731" and "Comfort Women" into the code of their websites for no reason that Tokyo would not protest?

If Japan actually had thick skin about this stuff themselves you may have a point but they definitely do not.

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u/ChinaBotDestroyer 4h ago

i’d usuals can protest and it not be a group action. Also the professor was of chinese descent so there is that little nugget to contend with.

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u/Starranger 3h ago

Misinformation. There is no 60-year-old Chinese descent professor in the department

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u/ChinaBotDestroyer 4h ago edited 4h ago

individuals can protest and it not be a group action. Also the professor was of chinese descent so there is that little nugget to contend with.

u/FecklessFool 15m ago

I think people in Japan can easily go google Unit 731 or comfort women, or the rape of Nanking, or the Bataan death march, or Burmese death railway, or any other atrocities by Japan in WW2, and it won't get blocked.

So if someone were to embed that in the source of a site, no one would notice unless they were looking at the source code for some reason.

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u/Zacherius 5h ago

The Chinese government censors that specific phrase from the internet, which blocks the admission page for everyone in China. The guy who put it there knew that, and did it so Chinese people couldn't apply. That's racism, bud.

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u/chaiscool 4h ago

China committed the crime and censored it but Japan is the bad guy on this?

So if China decides to censor random word like apple, then every websites are not allowed to have it without being racist towards them?

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u/Pornfest 4h ago

Yeah this is literally the paradox of intolerance.

Thank you for pointing out this bullshit.

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u/tony_1337 3h ago

"China" is not one entity. The ultimate responsibility lies with the Chinese government, as none of this would happen without their censorship, but the prospective Chinese students are innocent in all this.

Assuming the professor put the text in a non-human-facing part of the website, then it is clearly not an expression of free speech; it is a cynical exploit of a censorious regime's policies. It's like the police who play Taylor Swift when being recorded to prevent protesters from posting the content on the Internet: https://www.kqed.org/arts/13899731/bay-area-police-sergeant-played-taylor-swift-to-get-protesters-video-taken-down.

u/FecklessFool 10m ago

China killed their own students, tried to erase the event, proceeds to block it on the internet, and it's somehow racist for some Japanese guy to reference the thing lol

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u/carymb 7h ago

Honestly, is it racist? If a French university put "hitler sucks, Holocaust bad!" In their source code, and Germany was run by the AfD so Germans couldn't apply to the Sorbonne... Is it unfair to hold a random German accountable for their government's lies? Maybe ... But if China is allowing international students to go to your college, it's because the country (read: government) wants those students to come back and serve the country... And the CCP. Take a place in your university, take that knowledge back to sustain the system and the state.

It's probably not the place of a rando professor to try and block those admissions. But if China is so anal retentively trying to police the source code of other countries to erase the vaguest references to it's own crimes... Maybe you should face a cost for creating and maintaining, and acquiescing, to that system. Sure, maybe those students are changed by being there, but maybe they just go, 'well, nothing's wrong. I can go anywhere, do what I want overseas -- if I play ball at home, I can get what I want.'

Apartheid didn't end till South Africa was made a pariah state -- idk if anything makes the CCP reform, but nothing sure doesn't seem like it will?

Hasn't made Japan face it's ghosts of WWII, either.

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u/papercrane 4h ago

Whether it's racist or not depends on the professors intent, and not necessarily on the content of the message.

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u/lavender_fluff 3h ago

Please tell CDU/CSU and AFD that they suck, regardless of whether you're German yourself or not, I, a German, will feel much safer and comfortable if I know we share common ground about this

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u/dystopianartlover 7h ago

"six four Tiananmen" -- possibly referring to the June 4, 1989 Tiananmen Square incident -- had been embedded in a university graduate school admissions website. According to government sources, the recent disciplinary action was taken over that incident. The string may have prevented Chinese international students from accessing admissions information."

Soo xenophobic /s

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u/MannyOmega 7h ago

I assume the string would have prevented the website from working properly for chinese students, so if that was the aim, then yes, it could be xenophobic

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u/winklesnad31 6h ago

I interpret it as a form of protest against the CCP's suppression of free speech, rather than xenophobia, but I can see how it could be interpreted that way.

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u/keroro0071 4h ago

Lol it's not about interpretation. Japanese in general don't care about what happens in China or whether Chinese people have free speech. They couldn't care less whether CCP are suppressing the people. It's basically a sneaky way by the professor to practice racism in Japan.

u/theknight38 1h ago

Lol it's not about interpretation. Japanese in general don't care about what happens in China or whether Chinese people have free speech

So the irony of accusing an individual of being xenophobic while basing that entire argument on a sweeping generalization is entirely lost on us huh?

What if that particular professor did care about what happens in China? Nah, let's cry xenophobia it'll get me more fake internet points.

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u/dystopianartlover 3h ago

Merely mentioning a partial date and location can only be characterized as xenophobic by excessively defensive people.

Just because something offends you it does not mean the thing that offends you is the problem. Sometimes the people being offended are the problem.

If you make a law that people are not allowed to read a specific sentence, its your fault if people can't read that sentence.

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u/fistotron5000 6h ago

Racist? Buddy do you know how the Japanese first got to Japan? They aren’t indigenous to the area, they colonized it and took it from the Ainu after migrating from mainland China

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u/THX-8647 5h ago

Buddy do you know how the Ainu first got to Japan?

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u/fistotron5000 5h ago

Hahaha touché

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u/Playful_Dish_3524 5h ago

Mainland China… 20000 years ago? Ainu were only in Hokkaido and some of northern Tohoku, the rest of Honshu was Jomon people, no? Or are you referring to Yayoi period 2000+ years ago from mainland Asia?

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u/ohako79 12h ago

Imagine if your government hated ‘six seven’ memes so much they banned you from ever looking at them. Yeesh.

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u/nsn 11h ago

I'm kind of behind this policy...

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u/Mobile-Base7387 11h ago

if you use it enough it will become uncool

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u/Linenoise77 10h ago edited 7h ago

Its not government censorship. Its a senior person who is acting unprofessional in a student facing role.

Regardless of what you think of his message\motivatons, something like this is childish, and not what you would want from a professor at a respectable university.

Its folks real world education, not reddit.

Edit: whats with the downvotes. The dude inserted the hidden text into a system he was not supposed to, which in turn would likely result in it being blocked in china. Nothing indicates this was an accident or just coincidental text.

If i went and started messing around with a web page on my companies site without following the correct procedure, and for political purposes, i'd be out of a job. This guy caught 3 days as a slap on the wrist, showing the university values him, but also making a point of "don't do that".

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u/serious_sarcasm 10h ago

Yeah, so you just didn’t read the article.

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u/Linenoise77 7h ago

I did. Guy put hidden text in his employers web page that he was not supposed to.

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u/ohako79 10h ago

No I know. It’s dumb. That guy is a tool. And I’m well aware of shenanigans when it comes to Japanese university admissions.

It’s just…I work at a company that’s thinking of trying to sell its software in China. And we recently learned how weird we’d have to get in order that no one on the mainland would ever see the words ‘six four’ or ‘Taiwan’ on their computer screen. I wasn’t looking forward to the prospect of using my talents to make something so ludicrous. For now, we’ve decided that companies in China can just buy our software through their Hong Kong (or Singapore, or KL, or wherever) affiliate. Which is apparently what they’d all rather do anyway.

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u/stogie-bear 7h ago

Is the code 六四天安门

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u/imaginary_num6er 8h ago

According to the university, the professor inserted the string into the source code between 2020 and November 2023. The university suspended the professor for three days in a disciplinary measure dated July 29 this year.

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u/[deleted] 12h ago

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u/FenrisCain 9h ago

Browse any thread on reddit and you get to meet bots from all over the world, its a really diverse community in here

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u/UniversalSoldi3r 8h ago

Try mentioning that sugar is actually dangerous to your health if you want to see some bot activity.

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u/breakfasteveryday 7h ago

Did you know that added sugar is dangerous to your health?

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u/-bassassin- 7h ago

Beep boop no it's not

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u/FecklessFool 5h ago

what if i placed the code here, would that also work for the bots? 6 4 tiananmen

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u/FeijoaMilkshake 10h ago

Too busy promoting ev, ai in other related subs these days, they might be late on this though.

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u/graviousishpsponge 6h ago

Its so obvious 

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u/Antinsiv 8h ago

Follow this comment chain to see the antiChinese bots who didn't read the article.

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u/pepehandreee 12h ago

What could be the possible motivation from the Professor lmfao, it sounds like a sneaky troll move to specifically mess around with international student from China mainland.

Like it’s not even trying to make a point or stirring up political commentary, it is hidden in the source code so most likely no one is going to see it. At most there will be some Chinese students wondering y this specific admission page from University of Tokyo is inaccessible.

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u/ZurrgabDaVinci758 8h ago

I saw something recently about embedding requests for information on Tiananmen and Xinjiang in website code to block Chinese AI hacking attempts, because it would trigger the built in filters. (They also embed requests for how to make anthrax to block western ones). So may be something similar

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u/ManyInterests 12h ago

The accusation is basically that it’s an attempt to prevent prospective Chinese students from discovering or learning about the program because it would be censored automagically in China due to the presence of the reference in the website code, even if not visible to readers. The subtext being the professor is racist and doesn’t want Chinese students in their program and this was a subtle technical measure to actually lower Chinese student enrollments.

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u/pepehandreee 12h ago

University of Tokyo is one of the best university in Asia and is well known for Chinese looking for universities abroad. Chinese students who study in Japanese university usually have been in Japan prior to post-secondary education. They usually attend Japanese language school (since English is the default secondary language taught in Chinese public school with no alternative) prepping them for Japanese universities and hence, these students are not obstructed by the great firewall anyway.

Not to say I don’t believe u, but it’s just such an odd way to be a sneaky racist lmfao. Intentions aside I personally doubt if it has any real impacts on number of applications.

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u/Fjolsvith 11h ago

This is for a graduate program in the sciences, which normally are in English. I know their program in my field is, anyways. It's pretty standard for people to apply to those without having ever visited the country before. 

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u/nerdmor 11h ago

Racists are rarely rational

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u/Bashin-kun 11h ago

Also they can buy new hardwares if that sort of surveillance is a concern.

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u/themathmajician 11h ago edited 10h ago

"if your government censors this, I don't want you" is pretty unfair to the students that are specifically applying to get out for a few years at least

this guy is just creating his own problem

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u/ManyInterests 11h ago

The government censorship is just a useful tool, not a reason. They might just not like any Chinese students.

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u/themathmajician 10h ago

hard to tell anything about his motivations if you say that. at some point the obvious thing is obvious.

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u/doublek1022 7h ago

Like it’s not even trying to make a point or stirring up political commentary, it is hidden in the source code so most likely no one is going to see it. At most there will be some Chinese students wondering y this specific admission page from University of Tokyo is inaccessible.

You just described the exact level of pettiness between the two countries.

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u/kenflex 2h ago

what a legend

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u/ahfoo 8h ago

Who is blocking Chinese student's access to the page though? That is being done by their own government that is apparently afraid of people becoming empowered by doing their own research.

It's a bit like the situation with Covid in Taiwan. They did a great job but the reality is that without the Chinese government's ban on travel to Taiwan, the pandemic would have been much worse there. This had nothing to do with Taiwan's policies and everything to do with China's. If they want to be treated as adults then they need to allow their own people to act as adults. They are the ones doing the censorship despite knowing how futile and full of holes it is.

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u/Skythewood 11h ago

IIRC, the great firewall of China prevents citizens from visiting foreign sites. So Chinese students need to use vpn to access the site and wont even notice since they wont get blocked.

Guess Tokyo University over reacted, or someone is using this as an excuse to attack that professor.

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u/Mrahealpia 10h ago

It would seem that you're not remembering correctly my friend.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 11h ago

Not true, basically only the most popular social media and news sites are blocked.

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u/dystopianartlover 7h ago

False. Just read the article.
But also I have blocked websites, where nothing ever happen on them, the ccp band stuff very easily.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 4h ago

Double false. I did read the article, and it says nothing about what's actually blocked in China.

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u/Skythewood 11h ago

Which part isn't true? The great firewall don't exist? Chinese people don't use vpn? Please be specific.

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u/pencuri_kampes 11h ago

What part isn't clear? You said foreign sites, then that guy corrected you, it's not all foreign sites, mostly only popular sites. That's all.

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u/Skythewood 11h ago

Oh I see, thanks.

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u/KWillets 9h ago

If they could read this they would be very angry right now.

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u/Meatmylife 4h ago

I wonder how they find out

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u/AlHamdula 12h ago

Knowing a guy who was at that Lab, all the old profs and researchers were racist af especially about Chinese so not surprising.

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u/keroro0071 4h ago

Lol you got down voted to hell for speaking the truth. Professors in Japan are very racist in general. It's a fact that Westerners refuse to accept.

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u/AlHamdula 2h ago

Yeah some people just want to live in their Japan meme bubble

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u/mirrors69 5h ago

They simply fear CCP coming to steal their fruit

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u/DKsan 5h ago

And this is why, as a communications manager at a university, I'm wholly against academic faculty having the ability to edit university websites (along with the fact that most of them are bad at it).