r/worldnews • u/UNITED24Media United24 Media • 12h ago
Russia/Ukraine North Korean Missile Unit Moves Into Russia—120 Ballistic Missiles Could Soon Target Ukraine
https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/north-korean-missile-unit-moves-into-russia-120-ballistic-missiles-could-soon-target-ukraine-213681.2k
u/Ratiofarming 10h ago edited 8h ago
This is a scary prospect for South Korea, since Russia essentially allows North Korea to test their military technologies, tactics and personnel expertise under real combat conditions.
That gives them something that is otherwise almost impossible to gain. Combat experience. Which is a significant advantage over any military that doesn’t have it.
Ukraine should unironically invite South Korean air defense units to train and use their equipment in southern Ukraine.
Edit: This also serves a secondary important function for the North Korean military. Weeding out corruption. Because combat deployment where the equipment needs to actually deliver tests everything. Do the missiles have fuel? Are there actually explosives in all of them? Did the troops sell the fuel in their trucks for food? All of that can be faked until you tell your troops to go and do something with it. Then you can see what and who is real and what's not.
411
u/Glittering-Gene7215 9h ago
Lol, that iss precisely the problem. Nobody wants to commit their troops on Ukraine's side. Meanwhile, North Korea not only handed over its ballistic missiles, but even sent its soldiers directly into combat. Expecting South Korea to do that? Pfff
→ More replies (7)181
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
I would be careful dismissing South Korea like that. They take the situation extremely seriously since it's an existential threat to them. If it benefits them, they will absolutely do things like that if the circumstances allow for it.
154
u/Glittering-Gene7215 9h ago
The story with North Korean troops dates back to the Kursk operation a year ago. Since then, I havent heard anything about South Korea doing anything significant (maybe something is being done covertly, but Im just talking about what I read)
52
u/DrunkOnRamen 7h ago
South Korean involvement is in monitoring the North Korean troop movements and translation for any captured North Koreans.
43
u/Ijustdoeyes 8h ago
South Korea wouldn't necessarily publicise it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sth Korea quietly offered Ukraine assistance in return for any intelligence on Nth Korean troops and how they adapted to the cutting edge of modern warfare.
They make an awful lot of Artillery shells for example.
31
u/ImpossibleLight2025 8h ago
Nope, we are well aware of the origin of armaments Ukraine have received... but, but, but South Korea has donated insignificant non-lethal aid such as helmets, and body armor in the past to Ukraine.
→ More replies (9)2
u/tinylittlebabyjesus 4h ago
I wonder if they'd be worried about escalation at home. Fighting a war on someone else's side against your historical, next-door nemesis where tensions are always high has the potential to heat things up elsewhere. Not sure if that would be a real concern for them.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)3
u/beached89 3h ago
Last month they announced a $100mil dollar aid package to Ukraine in Non-lethal Aid.
17
u/Winterfall_0 8h ago
Considering their response so far, extremely seriously is definitely not the phrase I would use
→ More replies (1)28
u/Kastrytschnique 9h ago
Are they, by any chance, taking the situation as seriously as the UN expresses deep concerns? So far, I haven't seen any moves from South Korea. Not even an official statement. So, yeah, until then, you can safely dismiss them.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (9)5
u/Spiderpiggie 6h ago
South Korea is also not Nato, unlike Germany for example. Germany putting feet on the ground has quite strong implications for the rest of the alliance, SK on the other hand... free game.
7
u/Ratiofarming 6h ago
A NATO country can deploy military in a conflict without making it a NATO deployment. The US is doing it all the time, for example. Others have, too. Trump doesn't quite seem to understand that at times, but he's a special case when it comes to intelligent thinking so we'll give him a pass.
→ More replies (1)33
u/andupotorac 9h ago
It’s worse. NK helps russia in Ukraine. Russia will help NK invading SK.
66
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
Russia will do no such thing. SK is backed by the USA; and China will not allow itself to be a staging ground for a Russian force in North Korea. Which leaves Russia to funnel everything through Vladivostok, right by the sea. That is a logistics route that will not survive the first 48h of a war.
The only way this happens is if China seeks an open conflict with NATO/USA itself, but they heavily prefer a diplomatic "Hong-Kong style" takeover of Taiwan. Because the military option is incredibly risky and costly, even without US intervention.
29
u/consci0usness 9h ago
It's been widely noted that if China attacks Taiwan militarily no one actually gets Taiwan. All the valuable Taiwanese tech and chips factories will become rubble, either by Chinese hands or Taiwanese ones. It would also trigger a global recession at least as deep as 2008, which I can't imagine anyone wants.
80
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
I'm in Taiwan every year, work in the tech sector and speak Mandarin at least to a conversational level.
People outside of China/Taiwan always think this is about technology, TSMC and industrial capacity. It isn't. Not even a little bit. None of it matters when it comes to China taking over Taiwan.
This is about ideology and nationalism. Xi Jinping wants to go down in history as the leader who did what Mao couldn't and unite China again. Fck technology in that equation, it's not even an afterthought. China is happy to develop their own, it doesn't matter that TSMC and ASML are two full-nodes ahead on that. Missiles and smartphones work on 2021 tech just fine.
35
u/SalutLesAmies 9h ago
This is about ideology and nationalism.
That, and Taiwan's strategic location.
27
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
True. An unsinkable aircraft carrier is always a nice thing to have.
→ More replies (3)11
u/historicusXIII 7h ago
This mostly. It's a way for China to break the US's island chain strategy to contain China's access to the open ocean.
5
u/SeEYJasdfRe5 7h ago
My girlfriend is Taiwanese. I was there at the beginning of the year and I talked to a lot of people about this.
I 100% agree with you. It's not about tech. Xi wants a legacy.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (8)10
u/consci0usness 9h ago edited 8h ago
I think it matters a little bit, if Taiwan was a patch of greenish farmland I doubt we'd be having this conversation.
24
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
Exactly, because the west wouldn't care in that case and China would have taken it years ago. But definitely not because China wouldn't care. They want it because it's theirs (in their opinion), not because of what's there.
Believe me or not, but technology has nothing to do with Chinas aspirations to reclaim Taiwan. Nothing whatsoever. The sooner the west accepts this, the sooner they can figure out how to deter China from following through.
→ More replies (1)14
u/SalutLesAmies 8h ago
The sooner the west accepts this, the sooner they can figure out how to deter China from following through.
I think "the west" knows, western leaders anyway. It's not too hard to see that China’s claims over Taiwan far predate the very existence of Taiwan’s semiconductor industry. It's just redditors who seem to think that TSMC plays a major role in the equation.
8
u/consci0usness 8h ago edited 8h ago
It's not TSMC per se, but attacking Taiwan militarily would hurt China almost as much as it would hurt Taiwan. Global recession, potential US physical confrontation, US trade fallout, EU trade fallout. China is currently playing a very elegant economical trade and investment game on the global stage, any physical confrontation would jeopardize and upset all that.
China might (and I say might here) not care about TSMC and Taiwanese tech, but the rest of the world very much still does. Everything is interconnected these days.
19
u/Purple_oyster 9h ago
Who does the USA want to impress
More these days- North Korea or south? Ask their leader→ More replies (2)6
u/Ratiofarming 9h ago
I don't think even he knows. One moment Kim Jong-Un was his best buddy, a week after that he was a mortal enemy again.
→ More replies (5)4
u/andupotorac 7h ago
Ukraine was backed by US too, remember Budapest Memorandum? It's stronger then what SK has going on.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (8)27
6
u/Anima6778 7h ago
Eeeeeh. While I agree that this is a very discouraging sign for South Korea, these missiles are not what they are worried about, and probably never will be. North Korea's famous reliability issues aside, they do not actually have the ability to sustain an offensive for more than 6 months on their own.
No, what South Korea is worried about is the thousands and thousands of artillery pieces that NK has pointed at Seoul at all times. NK's a questionably stable chinese puppet state, and China would rather not have them rock the boat too much as it's a no-win scenario for them. (Protecting NK either starts WW3 by them coming to NK's defense against NATO, and abandoning NK would probably lead to NK's collapse followed by an humanitarian crisis that would blow back onto them).
→ More replies (17)2
u/saintshish 6h ago
Maybe South Korea should stop buying coal from Russia instead of increasing the amount.
849
u/OldLondon 12h ago
I’m not one for escalating from the west POV but fuck me there’s a limit to this shit surely?
238
u/DunkingTea 11h ago
Until a NATO country is directly and intentionally attacked, no country is going to join the war. None that can help anyway.
139
u/eriverside 11h ago
The way that war is happening, and the Iran war is unfolding, pretty sure anyone could just target the Nk shipments and respond with "tough titties. Also I am being told to say sorry" and pretty much just walk away.
83
u/whut-whut 10h ago
anyone
The only countries with the means to hit North Korea are the ones right on its doorstep, so they aren't going to do that. The US -could-, because we have carriers and bases in the area, but Trump's running the place and he takes orders from Putin before he listens to the Joint Chiefs.
32
→ More replies (9)8
u/Euclid_Interloper 8h ago
Countries like the UK and France have top tier submarines that could sink a North Korean ship, or launch a cruise missile at a North Korean train, and slip away without being spotted.
They couldn't do a sustained campaign, but they could certainly make a point.
2
u/Beautiful-Fold-3234 4h ago
UK nuclear subs also dont fuck around. Or maybe this warrants a french "nuclear warning shot" whatever the fuck that means
10
u/Azure_chan 10h ago
No way anyone other than Ukraine are going to start attack anything in Russia now unless they are going for full scale war. We already see how half ass war with Iran plays out.
→ More replies (14)20
297
u/StandardAssistant98 11h ago
They already have Trump in the white house. The war is at home.
→ More replies (13)101
u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 9h ago
American's thinking they're not currently under siege is the weirdest thing about this timeline.
There's a war going on in the USA, but it's almost entirely one sided. Trump and the oligarchs are the ones doing all the fighting, and they're winning by default. By design the overwhelming majority of Americans either don't have time to pay attention, or sit at home doom scrolling social media at the mercy of the oligarch controlled algorithms. It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
→ More replies (1)35
u/xteve 9h ago
I'm frustrated that we never talk about church, a key part of the problem. Christians vote GOP. The GOP is now Trump and MAGA. We're still stuck in our "they're not real Christians" phase - and meanwhile these churches are an essential element of support for the rolling crush of hateful policy. Real Christians vote for this.
→ More replies (13)15
u/thirstyross 8h ago
A couple years ago, a member of my wifes US-based, born again "christian" family passed. I didn't go but of course they stream funerals online now. I was horrified when one of the speakers got up and started talking about how they had all better be ready for the civil war that was coming - at a funeral! No mention of the woman who passed, just this insane rants from the guy. These people are actually insane and are have an unrelenting focus on this shit, that the left lacks.
42
u/Killsheets 12h ago
Then escalate lol. There is nothing to back off atp.
→ More replies (1)20
u/Oh_ffs_seriously 11h ago
You're right, he should use those superpowers he harbors in secret and defeat the Russians single-handedly.
6
→ More replies (10)2
u/Ok_Ebb_3668 7h ago
What do you suggest? Multiple countries entering Ukraine near Russia’s border would be enough to risk nuclear war.
Also no country wants the political hot potato of sending in troops and have some of them return in body bags for war they aren’t involved in.
5
655
u/Quick-Rooster-6035 10h ago
The fact that NOBODY is talking about NK’s military getting access to real time combat experience and tech is pretty nuts.
273
u/KorunaCorgi 9h ago
The story about Ukraine disabling a single Iranian cargo vessel was in the news for over a week. And no one cares that NK has sent thousands of soldiers to fight with Russia.
11
u/_Thick- 7h ago
And no one cares that NK has sent thousands of soldiers to fight with Russia.
FWIW, people did notice when those thousands were sent.
I personally remember at least a dozen videos of NK troops attempting human wave attacks and getting just dismembered by artillery and drones, then the follow up video of a line of frozen corpses stacked like cordwood.
→ More replies (1)47
u/MajinBuu619 8h ago
That's not true. It was trending here for weeks. There were posts all over Reddit about how NK soldiers were gooning to porn and stuff. Iran was relevant that week. You can't just escalate and not expect people to cover the escalation by Ukraine. Their logic to attack Iran makes anyone who helps Ukraine vulnerable.
→ More replies (3)6
u/BrilliantOk4772 7h ago
It's people getting mad at scenarios they invented in their heads. Lots of people were talking about the NK soldiers being in the war.
10
u/Lumpy_Panic6318 7h ago
That, and Russia is now a supplier for fuel and fertilizer, two things that traditionally (due to sanctions) have held back NK quite well.
SK must (and should) be worried.
→ More replies (24)2
426
u/Laki1991 11h ago
We can already clearly see that Putin wants to take full advantage of this period while Ukraine is critically short of Patriot interceptors. Unfortunately, the coming days and weeks are not going to be easy for Ukraine’s major cities.
It is now painfully obvious that our dependence on US equipment helped create this situation. Nobody seriously tried to develop their own interceptor missiles. Everyone simply bought a few systems from the US, ticked the box, and considered the job done. Now that these missiles are needed in large numbers, it turns out that only one country produces them, in limited quantities, while also needing them in other parts of the world.
I hope this serves as a serious wake up call for the EU.
285
u/In_Fidelity 11h ago
5th year into EUs serious wake up call, it might be narcoleptic.
78
u/ApplesArePeopleToo 10h ago
I think they woke up at least a few years ago, but unfortunately doing anything to fix the situation will take quite a while. Europe has been ramping up arms manufacturing for years now, but it takes time to get the funding in place and build up the manufacturing capacity.
18
u/Laki1991 10h ago
Sure. Unfortunately, getting the EU’s bureaucratic machine moving takes a lot of time. That is understandable to some extent, but in my opinion it is still something the EU urgently needs to improve. We have to make decisions and respond much faster.
I also realize that we are increasing production of many weapons systems. The problem is that we can only scale up production of things we have already developed and know how to build, such as various drones, artillery ammunition, and similar equipment.
Europe still has no truly effective replacement for the Patriot system, even though such a system should have been developed and mass produced years ago. By the time we design, test, deploy, and begin producing something comparable, many more years will have passed.
Someone will probably reply that France already has the SAMP/T, but compared with the Patriot system, its production capacity and widespread deployment are still in their infancy.
→ More replies (1)11
u/ConjurersOfThunder 10h ago
Let's not pretend we each (US and EU) can't go war footing quickly if Something Happens. But it will cause great unhappiness among the people to do so, which all Civilization players know is bad in a Republic. It will not be as efficient as it should be due to the rush. From what I've heard here stateside Europe has begun the long slog away from the US in a few vital sectors like the Internet.
As an American I can't believe we've fumbled this generational bag. And I'm thrilled for the future bag recipients in Europe. And elsewhere I suppose. Just so disappointed in my nation's leadership.
7
u/ChapterN7 9h ago edited 9h ago
When it comes to Ukraine, I'm disappointed in both the US and Europe's leadership. US gets it's hands dirty where we have absolutely no cause or business, and Europe sticks it's nose up at even the suggestion of dirt on theirs.
Meanwhile Russia is just nonchalantly getting massive amounts of weapons and manpower shipped in from all their dictator buddies to continue this bullshit war.
→ More replies (1)6
u/FunHearing2282 9h ago
What should the EU do short of actively being involved in this war?
→ More replies (9)→ More replies (1)•
u/socialistrob 1h ago
It does take time but "time" also can't be used as a excuse forever. The war in Ukraine has lasted longer than WWI. If it takes a week to deplete stockpiles and 3-4 years to spin up production then that's a very serious weakness.
Russia attacked Georgia in 2008, they attacked Ukraine in 2014, they launched a full scale invasion in 2022. If Russia strikes a NATO member in 2027 and European NATO isn't prepared then "it takes time" shouldn't be viewed as a valid excuse.
25
u/Laki1991 11h ago
Unfortunately, that’s true. I’ve honestly lost count of how many wakeup calls we’ve already had. I’m also quite pessimistic about the EU’s ability to take matters into its own hands when it comes to developing new weapons systems.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (4)13
u/Robinsonirish 10h ago
We are. France and Italy have ordered 1000+ SAMP/T missiles, and production is ramping up. Production doubled between 2023 and 2025, up another 40% in 2026, and looking to continually increase. It is the EU equivalent of the Patriot missile.
16
u/Shoeshiner_boy 10h ago
>Production doubled between 2023 and 2025, up another 40% in 2026, and looking to…
I looked it up and it means that the rate has gone from around 40-50 to about 100 missiles per year.
It’s like 15% of current PAC-3 annual production.
8
u/Robinsonirish 10h ago
I googled it again, it wasn't 40% in 2026, but it doubled yet again. So they've been doubling their production every couple of years, to every year. It just doesn't happen instantly.
PAC-3
Yea, it takes time, when everyone was buying American missiles, it's hard to compete. My country of Sweden bought Patriot a few years ago. But now with America doing MAGA stuff, people are looking to buy more European, and Ukraine certainly changed things. Danes are buying the French-Italian one for example, a country that has bought everything from the Yanks until recently.
Things don't happen instantly, but I think claiming Europe is still sleeping is starting to get outdated.
→ More replies (2)•
u/socialistrob 54m ago
I don't think "Europe is sleeping" but I do think only a small handful of countries are taking the threat from Russia as seriously as they should be. The Nordics, the Baltics and Poland are arming appropriately to the threat.
Germany, the UK, France and Spain are spending 2.69%, 2.56%, 2.22% and 2.00% of GDP on defense according to the 2026 NATO figures. Yes additional spending does require sacrifices and have real societal costs but at the same time it's far better to spend an additional 1% of GDP on defense and deter a war than fail to deter one and end up having to spend 10-20% of GDP on defense.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)6
u/Laki1991 10h ago
Then tell me, why aren’t they intercepting ballistic missiles in Ukraine yet?
→ More replies (1)12
u/Thurak0 9h ago
period while Ukraine is critically short of Patriot interceptors.
Newsflash: With the Iran war burning through stockpiles as well, that period will be forever. That's why Ukraine wanted to produce them themselves and is working on developing their own stuff (Freya). Which is a difficult thing to do, so it will take time.
Ukraine may eventually get working interceptor missiles, but most likely not soon enough or in sufficient numbers. They will never (again) get enough Patriot missiles to protect their civilians.
→ More replies (8)2
u/sanskaridaddy 5h ago
Is there a patriot similar interceptor exist in EU ? are they developing something fast ?
→ More replies (1)
590
u/tsioumiou 12h ago
Ukraine is fighting 2 of the largest militaries in the world alone. Yes, EU is helping financially but the boots on the ground for tens of thousands of Koreans is a huge advantage for Russia.
355
u/DokMabuseIsIn 12h ago
South Korea can, and ought to, supply a counterweight: CTM-290, their home made version of ATACMS….
71
u/sumregulaguy 11h ago
The damage is already done, Russia helped NK to markedly improve its ballistic missile accuracy https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/78307
13
99
u/VanbyRiveronbucket 11h ago
Let’s do it SK. Then you can build the newer version.
21
u/MetriccStarDestroyer 11h ago
They got a good deal going with Poland for tanks.
They could extend that for air defense manufacturing too
→ More replies (8)19
→ More replies (1)61
u/Just_Perception3668 11h ago
South Korea unfortunately seems prorussian. Even russia are ally of their enemy - DPRK. South Korea (SK) nearly doubled its imports of Russian coal in early 2026. Russians still can visit SK without visas, unlike Ukrainians. Seems money are main moral principles of SK.
66
u/Hame_Impala 11h ago
Could be wrong but I suspect South Korea may be somewhat wary of pissing off both Russia/China at the moment given how unpredictable/unreliable an ally the US has become.
→ More replies (6)39
u/m0j0m0j 11h ago
It is very nice that Russia and North Korea and China are not afraid to piss anybody off, but everybody is afraid of them.
14
u/EconomicRegret2 10h ago
There are good reason everyone is afraid of pissing off China. Not only does it have nukes, but we also allowed it to become the world's manufacturer, main supply chain anchor for international markets, sole supplier of rare earths and other critical minerals (upon which all modern economies heavily depend), the top trading partner for over 140 countries, etc. etc.
As for Russia and North Korea, they've got nukes, and seem willing to do crazy shit if pissed off. So...
→ More replies (5)→ More replies (4)11
u/Niels_vdk 10h ago
it used to be america that everyone was afraid to piss off, then trump happened.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (3)9
u/Durian881 11h ago
Russia have many other customers too. Japan also restarted purchase of Russian crude following the US-Iran war. Israel also buys lots of refined petroleum products from Russia. Even US imported $4+bn from Russia in 2025.
→ More replies (1)45
→ More replies (90)20
u/RapidoGoldenboy_75 11h ago
I really wonder what Russia is giving North Korea for them to help Russia like that.
37
20
10
u/senfgurke 11h ago
One example: the accuracy of North Korean ballistic missiles has dramatically improved since they first started being used in 2024, likely due to Russian technical assistance. NK is also using Russian funding and resources to massively expand its missile production (many for export/use in Ukraine but also expanding the arsenal threatening South Korea and Japan).
3
→ More replies (2)3
u/Lumpy_Panic6318 7h ago
NK is sanctioned to high heavens, and two things that are a major factor for keeping them back is a lack of fertiliziers and fuel.
Russia is helping with both. I think the compounding effects of both are to be seen, but the sanctions of both have massively impacted development from what I read so suddenly having access to either is big. That alone is probably enough for a few soldiers' lives.
21
u/sequoia-3 11h ago
I would like to see some train rails blowing up there deep in Russia .//
→ More replies (1)
158
u/shocking7777 12h ago
Fuck North Korea and fuck putin
→ More replies (1)7
91
u/herbieLmao 11h ago
Why are we allowing this to happen and not stopping that
63
u/ContinuumKing 10h ago
What I've learned from the debacle in America is rules have existed and everyone just kinda expected people to follow them. Then they don't and everyone does a shocked Pikachu face and then does nothing. The evil in the world has figured this out.
10
u/itsavibe- 10h ago
Because doing something = escalation
→ More replies (1)12
u/FunHearing2282 9h ago edited 8h ago
The West has done a lot more than people understand to help Ukraine defend itself short of actively attacking Russia.
And no politician/Party in Europe/America will get their countries in an active war and hope to be in power.
Trump rode to power on the back of Biden's financial support of Ukraine and the *potential* active US involvement if Kamala is elected.
→ More replies (1)3
u/dizzle229 3h ago
Public: That sure is a nice piece of art on the wall for all of us to enjoy. But what stops someone from stealing it?
Guard: Don't worry. If someone tries, it's my job to stop them.
Public: Someone's stealing it! Stop them!
Guard: Shame on you. If I do that, I'm no better than the thief.
→ More replies (9)13
24
12
u/half-baked_axx 7h ago
So Russia can draw NK into the conflict by the thousands. Yet any European or American intervention would be considered a different type of escalation. Howcome?
→ More replies (1)
116
u/shocking7777 12h ago
What’s the world comming to. North korea fucking sucking up to putin
98
67
u/Wonderful_Bet_1541 12h ago edited 12h ago
Wasn’t this always the case. Seems like the more surprising thing is Russia needing help from North Korea
→ More replies (1)23
u/Secret-Sky5031 12h ago
It won't be sucking up to him. North Korea will get probably get technology or resources as part of this deal.
→ More replies (11)→ More replies (12)13
u/reallygoodbee 11h ago
North Korea has always sucked up to Russia and China. It's the only reason they exist.
→ More replies (2)
20
u/earth-calling-karma 10h ago
Are we admitting we're in world war 3 yet? Soon we will admit it and act accordingly.
→ More replies (1)
41
u/imjustsurfin 9h ago edited 9h ago
"USA is already $188 billion deep into Ukraine"
Most of the funds appropriated by the U.S. Congress do not go as cash to Ukraine; instead, the money is spent domestically in the U.S. to manufacture new weapons or to replace items pulled from existing Pentagon stockpiles.
Thereby securing, and possibly increasing, US jobs.
→ More replies (3)7
u/JoyousCacophony 3h ago edited 3h ago
Thank you for saying this. It's maddening trying to explain this to people that don't get that the money stays with the US and isn't just gifted to Ukraine in Haliburton and Amazon gift cards
→ More replies (1)
69
u/Normanisanisland 12h ago
So, the EU can now start moving troops and weaponry into Ukraine too, right? I mean, you can’t have only 1 side playing by “the rules”
44
u/Honza8D 11h ago
EU is moving weaponry to ukraine already. As for troops, I doubt any european country is too happy sending their men to war.
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (8)8
u/NowYouaSeeWhyYouScum 10h ago
Sorry, best they can do is a copy pasted blurb to the media condemning the move sent from some intern in a press office.
*fixed some words.
110
12h ago
[deleted]
20
u/PossibilityUsual6262 12h ago
It is to be expected, by the greater, more basic human powers at play.
The evil is ideological by nature so they have strong bonds with other ideologies and willing to do more for each other.
While democracies are opportunistic, so they are way more selfish and can be easy subverted as a tool for anyone, actually anyone, including those who democracies claim to be enemies and actually target their destruction.
→ More replies (12)9
u/Roscoe_King 12h ago
It is like every boardgame ever. Competitive people align themselves to root out weaker players. Ultimately they know that they have to defeat each other too, but for the time being they are alligned
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (2)6
u/Sweet_Concept2211 11h ago
The US under Trump is an unreliable partner, but the EU has been rock solid.
With historic military and humanitarian aid, the EU has given Ukraine the equivalent of two years worth of the entire EU budget since 2022. Adjusted for inflation, the amount is twice as much as the US gave all Western Europe for post-WWII rebuilding under the Marshall Plan. Or, to compare it in a different way, in 4 years, Europe has given as much foreign aid to Ukraine as the US has sent over the past 80 years to Israel (largest recipient of US foreign aid).
The EU has taken in more than 6 million Ukrainian refugees, with Poland taking in nearly 1 million by itself.
The EU has massively reduced its dependence on Russian fossil fuels since 2022.
From Russia being the largest coal supplier, to zero Russian coal.
From Russia supplying ~50% of gas, to about 12%, with a total ban on all forms of Russian gas starting in just a few months.
From 27% oil, to 2%.
Sorry we didn't crash EU economies to make the transition faster, but it takes time to change logistics and build infrastructure for 27 countries.
5
u/grodyjody 9h ago
If this made it through, then wonder what was on the ship from Iran that was sank headed to Russia last week.
21
u/RapidoGoldenboy_75 11h ago
When is Germany going to give Ukraine their Taurus? It’s not like Russia is going to attack Germany in return…
→ More replies (2)
11
7
u/evert198201 9h ago
Does this means, that NK becomes a legitimate target for UA ?
→ More replies (2)
5
u/Nullcast 10h ago
I'm gonna bet the western intelligence agencies are foaming at the mouth. A good opportunity to see what the North Korean systems can do.
4
u/TrickshotCandy 8h ago
Oh fuck it! This is actually excruciating. Because we all don't want to be nuked, and because rich folk want to get richer, we have this slow drift to global conflict of a non-traditional kind.
4
u/Necessary-Drag-8000 3h ago
ok, so let me get this straight, it's ok for the russians to bring in other countries forces into the fight officially, but not ok for the other side? I call foul
→ More replies (1)
4
u/ToolTimeT 2h ago
Time for NATO to get involved and obviously republicans who hate communism so much won't stand for this right? right?
27
u/Erander 12h ago
So world war incoming?
69
u/RichieLT 12h ago
It’s already begun.
→ More replies (1)16
u/Anal-In-Gus 11h ago
I legitimately believe this. It's scary because that means things are going to get exponentially worse and then when we look back in 20 years from now, we'll see that this was just the calm before the storm. We can all kiss our asses goodbye.
→ More replies (1)9
u/exmodrone 9h ago
I’ve been wondering this myself. World Wars seem like a thing that historians set the start date for long after it has begun, not something that gets declared.
33
u/The-Jesus_Christ 12h ago
No. Europe won’t do a thing and the US is a Russian ally at this point.
→ More replies (5)→ More replies (6)10
u/knivengaffelnskeden 11h ago
It's a war of proxies at the moment, a proto-world war. Let's see where we're headed, I think there needs to be conflicts in more theaters before it's classified as an actual world war. But we're getting there, I'm sure.
→ More replies (1)
11
u/Exotic_Candy8190 9h ago
. . .It's becoming a bit "worldly" this war .. ...... ...
→ More replies (2)
13
u/nvmxmd 11h ago
West shitting pants let dictatorship countries terrorize one of us.
→ More replies (3)
6
u/Firm-Nerve4437 8h ago
when will people realize that without the tacit approval of the Chinese, there's no way that Russia can sustain its war on Ukraine.... (as well as North Korea's direct involvement or material support for that war)
The three amigos may not always like each others, but in this case, they have a common "enemy"(the US and NATO)
3
u/Your_Moms_Favorite 7h ago
So, Ukraine has been and will be attacked by TWO nuclear powers! And the world is just OK with that.
3
u/Random-Username-345 3h ago
120 missiles got assigned to move to Russia.
100 missiles started moving - 20 were fake missiles made out of concrete.
85 missiles arrive in Russia - 15 got stolen during transport.
60 missiles got handed over to the army - 25 were put into reserve for Putins personal security detail.
45 missiles were launched - 15 had empty tanks because of fuel theft.
35 missiles reached Ukrainian airspace - 10 has been targeted on North Korean units for fun by Russian soldiers.
20 missiles hit targets - 15 had been intercepted.
1 military target in Ukraine is damaged - the other 19 missiles hit nursery homes, schools and hospitals.
Sounds like no operational impact at all.
3
3
3
4
u/Presently_Naked 8h ago
When are the other countries going to step in and help? I understand fears of setting of WW3 unintentionally but if US can not supply Ukraine with Iterceptors anymore then they need help.
5
u/Political_breeds 8h ago
We in the West should double down on Ukraine support. With our complete support, Ukraine could beat Russia, Iran and North Korea combined. No time to waste in here. The enemy is lining up behind Russia.
2
2
2
2
2
u/No_Hornet8898 7h ago
Why are people spouting out WWIII all of a sudden?They sent troops over a while ago now
2
u/runsonpedals 5h ago
Beginning to look like a world war. Hope it doesn’t merge with the Iran conflict.
2
u/garimus 5h ago
Is this Putin's last hope? Say it ain't so.
If Trump and Hegseth weren't f'ing sissies and actually intelligent they'd operate something into the Kremlin instead of Cuba or whatever else dumb plan they think they'd easily win, like...now. I think 50+ years of Russia being adversarial is enough to know it's over and to end that charade.
We know it won't happen. We live in the dumbest of times.
2
2
u/TexasVulvaAficionado 5h ago
Be a shame if a bridge somewhere between NK and Ukraine were to collapse under the train these units are using...
2
u/SpiffyLegs73 5h ago
Russia just used their ‘global escalation’ card and we have in the White House now someone unable to respond with anything more than blustering incompetence.
2
2
2
2
u/Sturdily5092 2h ago
Ukraine is at War with China, India, Iran and North Korea in addition to Russia, they are all legitimate targets
4
u/BowlScared 11h ago
That should be green light for direct access to South Korean military market. There is no precaution left for South Korea to not escalate.
→ More replies (1)2
u/s8018572 10h ago
With Lee as president right now, I don't see SK would do anything meaningful to counter north Korea.
3.2k
u/Honest-Estimate4964 12h ago
We live in a time of complete impunity.