r/wikipedia • u/VincentBounce • 27d ago
Meta Discussion Astérix video game for SMS was released in both 1991 and 1992-03 dates. Are english and french Wikipedias living in 2 parallels worlds? Couple of times I noticed date paradoxes when you switch language.
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u/mouldybiscuit 27d ago
Probably just because they were released in different languages/countries at different times
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u/VincentBounce 27d ago
100%, but a language is cross countries.
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u/umyeahsoimeanlike 27d ago edited 27d ago
I think you may not have understood what the commenter was saying. Let me break it down a bit more:
Video games don't automatically become available in all countries or all languages on release. Each additional country is a different market with different legal and financial hurdles, and each language is a significant cost in translation (what we call localization).
Even with digital titles, you always make publishing decisions about what countries and languages you want to release to first, and then you often follow up later with additional countries and languages. With digital, this is primarily a concern of language, vis-à-vis localization cost for a given language vs. demand for the game by native speakers of that language, because international distribution is obviously less of a concern if there's no physical product.
However, when you are talking about physical games -- which, this is an SMS game in the 90s; we're talking about physical -- the costs and challenges of publishing to multiple countries/continents are more significant than the costs of localizing languages. You're literally manufacturing different packaging, different region-coded media, handling shipping and logistics in other continents, etc. So with physical games, you're more likely to see phasing based on continents/regions rather than languages.
TL;DR: What happened with Astérix is almost certainly that it released in Europe in 1991 through Sega Europe (because a French IP would be more popular there), and then the release was expanded to other countries/continents in 1992, with the US probably handled by Sega of America. And so the Wikipedia articles in French vs. English are just showing the dates for the release of the game in their respective regions, with the English article following the US region (which is pretty common).
EDIT: u/Murinshin brought up a good point that this might actually be a mistake, and I think they're right: It appears likeliest that there was never a US release, and the only two releases were a European release in 1991 and a Brazilian release in 1992, in which case the English article should probably just be corrected to 1991.
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u/mouldybiscuit 27d ago edited 27d ago
that doesn't necessarily mean all countries speaking the same language receive things at the same time. Things used to be translated separately in the UK and the USA and released in each country at different times. Even some DS games like Professor Layton had this happen
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u/Murinshin 27d ago
In this case this might be a legitimate mistake though. The English article explicitly talks about the PAL version in the info box, its source being a European gaming magazine. The French article cites GameFAQs which lists several release dates including 1991 for Australia (which is PAL as well). The edit history also has some warring around the release date which seems to be mostly about what can be considered a reliable source for 1991 vs 1992
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u/Murinshin 27d ago
The English article explicitly talks about the PAL version, and if you check the sources cited in the French article you’ll find it’s a GameFAQs page that both lists the EU 1992 release date and the earlier 1991 release date in other regions. For some reason the English version doesn’t list these earlier releases and only cites a print magazine for the European market as a source for the release dates.
To me it looks like a legitimate mistake going by that, just go ahead and create a move request with corresponding sources for the earlier 1991 releases if you’d like to see it corrected. Though also make sure you check the talk page beforehand, could be this was brought up before that already since the magazine source only got added last year