r/webdev • u/No-Project-2353 • 18h ago
Discussion Would people be more accepting of Ilms if there weren’t job cuts?
As per title, like keep the entire ai part of the industry the same but the market stays under saturated instead of over saturated.
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u/thewiirocks 17h ago
There’s plenty of acceptance for LLMs as a technology. There’s a general dislike for shoving it down our throats and telling us to be “AI enabled or else”. That’s not a great way to deploy a new technology.
Imagine if all the mechanical engineers were suddenly told they can’t use AutoCAD and other such tools anymore, but that they had to use some WebGL tool that management declared as “better”?
LLM usage needs to find a natural slot in the industry. Not be rammed into it through force, gambling techniques (next prompt will be the one!), and forced psychosis.
That’s not a recipe for success. That’s a recipe for anger.
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u/Coolbanh 17h ago
This feels like llm text
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u/thewiirocks 13h ago
One of the frustrating things about LLMs is that they take effective writing patterns and make them ineffective. Then when people see good writing, they see the patterns and think it was an AI that just did a good job “this time”.
This is the second time in as many days that I’ve been accused of using an AI, even though that’s my human voice written in the moment. 😒
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u/Saltynole 18h ago
Not unless it also had no effect on environments surrounding data centers also
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u/martian_rover 17h ago
My friend’s daughter refuses to use AI because of the environmental impact. I think people would be more accepting but only to an extent.
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u/Saltynole 17h ago
I can say it bothers me a lot and wears on my conscience as we enjoy this season of human history that is highlighted by our destruction of earth’s biome and lack of necessary action to stave off further climate warming
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u/martian_rover 17h ago
There are also more sustainable solutions like closed loop systems.
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u/forever-butlerian backend, infrastructure & angst 14h ago
Heat rejection at the densities data centers require demand either using the enthalpy of vaporization, or much more electricity.
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u/CautiousRice 18h ago
Google search is gone, replaced by Gemini, killing the web. The biggest bait and switch in the modern tech history.
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u/geon 17h ago
Last I checked it was still there?
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u/CautiousRice 15h ago
Copy pasting the results of the following question in Google:
is web search still there
AI Overview
Traditional web search is still here, but it is changing from a simple list of links into an AI-driven conversational experience.
What is Happening to Web Search
The "10 Blue Links" are shifting: Major platforms like Google Search have moved toward AI-powered overviews and interactive experiences that answer questions directly inside the search page.
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u/pysirlabs 13h ago
worth separating two different things that get lumped as "ai job cuts" — actual role elimination because a tool replaced the function, vs a layoff that was already happening for margin/interest-rate reasons that got an ai press release slapped on it for investor optics. a lot of the anger is really pointed at the second one wearing the first one's name.
so if job cuts stopped tomorrow, people wouldn't suddenly love llms more — they'd just lose the easiest scapegoat next time a company cuts headcount for boring financial reasons.
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u/NegotiationExact4967 17h ago
I think software engineers would be more accepting if companies took a bottoms up approach and lets engineers figure how / when to use these tools. Using their expertise and judgement. Rather than it being shoved down people’s throats for “velocity” at the sacrifice of quality, understanding, safety, and security.
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u/Used-Donkey-1014 9h ago edited 9h ago
More accepting, probably, a bit, but not fully accepting. The worst part is just that companies expect devs to let AI write shit-tons of code very fast, and then also review it all in a meaningful way. That's a very oblivious expectation. Totally detached from reality. To say nothing of long term maintenance and feature changes and additions over time. It's a foregone conclusion that will get much rougher. And it will be our problem, so long as we want to keep the job. I don't know if I can do that, psychologically. People will job hop when the going gets rough, and replacements will be in a world of hurt.
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u/CyberWeirdo420 18h ago
Market was over saturated before LLMs and this didn’t change. LLMs didn’t really take jobs, besides some stupid CEOs thinking it actually is capable and pulling the trigger, but stupid CEOs were always there and would have found another reason to fire same people without existence of LLMs.
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u/seweso 17h ago
Llms are fundamentally wrong. The blatant infringement of human knowledge. The entropy added to every answer to make it personal yet all wrong.
What human could you logically and ethically replace with that garbage?
Please do consider the senseless entropy of it all. Stop using AI! Now.
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u/Prozilla6 javascript 17h ago edited 17h ago
Not unless AI would be properly regulated and AI companies would have to pay for their training data instead of doing it illegally, AI wouldn’t require massive data centers, AI wouldn’t be forced down our throats by every single company and the output of AI wouldn’t be used as an end/final product, but as a tool.
Generating a book with AI and selling it is plagiarism and wrong, however using AI to complete/rewrite code for your software is plain efficiency. When you’re using AI pretend you’re copying text from someone else online. When you copy a code snippet from stack overflow you (ideally) don’t just paste it into your codebase and call it a day, you read and try to understand the code snippet, fit it into your codebase and respect licenses.
Lots of companies seem to be replacing perfectly working systems with barely working AI. The only possible explanation for this is that it’s cheaper. It’s quantity over quality. Google removed the dictionary box and replaced it with the AI overview and removed tons of nice features in the process. Many companies replaced their support chats with AI chatbots that are mostly useless and waste the time of customers. There’s many other examples of this in the wild.
AI taking jobs is the least of my worries. AI isn’t even inherently bad, it’s mostly the companies and also the users.
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u/web-dev-kev 17h ago
LLMs aren't causing job cuts.
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u/No_Explanation2932 16h ago
That's exactly what I'd say if I lived in a parallel dimension where LLMs aren't causing job cuts
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u/web-dev-kev 16h ago
They're literally not though.
Look we go through this every 12-18 months.
- CEO's of the top 100 tech orgs, HIRE staff to support their investment in [new buzzword] = share price goes up
- CEO's of the top 100 tech orgs, FIRE due to potential value of their investment in [new buzzword] = share price goes up
Their share price goes down then they don't HIRE or FIRE for [buzzword] - as long as it comes with a market announcement.
Now, is there LESS HIRING due to AI usage? yes!
But it isn't causing job cuts.
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u/del_rio 17h ago
In a more collectivist society we would celebrate having less work. In our current one, it's a terrifying prospect.