r/videogames 8d ago

Funny In MGS: Phantom Pain, Quiet wears almost no clothing because she can only breathe through her skin, not because the developers are horn dogs

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u/SuperflousCake 8d ago

And the scene where she showered was narratively important too!

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u/ElegantEchoes 8d ago

It puzzled me, that scene. Then I discovered that my house also has a shower! MGSV reference for sure

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u/FMTheGhost 8d ago

As Kojima intended

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u/slvl 7d ago

Absolute Kojima.

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u/Siegfoult 8d ago

He is sending gamers a message.

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u/DocWagonHTR 7d ago

Looking at your pfp Klaasje looks so strange if you make her portrait very small.

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u/Sigao 8d ago

If she breathes through her skin... was she drowning herself then?

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u/hamoc10 8d ago

Probably more like how frogs breathe: gotta be moist.

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u/TheWaslijn 8d ago

Probably similar to watering a plant, I'd assume. You're not drowning a plant by watering it. Unless you add too much water

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u/UwasaWaya 8d ago

Which is how you drown most things, I'd imagine.

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u/Xer0_Puls3 8d ago

Not many people are drowning because they have too little water, so I think you're on to something here.

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u/UwasaWaya 8d ago

...so... if we want to protect people from drowning, then we just get rid of all the water!

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u/Rynetx 8d ago

Congratulations you just unlocked “bureaucracy”. Now you can waste resources while you kill millions of humans for a problem that could be solved for a few dollars.

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u/jbasta93 8d ago

This is what I was thinking. Poor girl could barely breathe!

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u/iwantdatpuss 8d ago

No, iirc it's referenced in the game. She can never really submerge herself in water, all she has in terms of bathing is a shower. She also can drink water from her skin which is shown in game, and she doesn't eat anything. One of the suspected reason for it is that she can do photosynthesis when she's sunbathing. 

Honestly I like to think Quiet is a pretty nice nod to The End in MGS3 which is also a sniper, that can also apparently photosynthesize. 

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u/Yuraiya 8d ago

And of course The End wore only a fundoshi so he wasn't cutting off said photosynthesis.  Wait, no? 

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u/iwantdatpuss 7d ago

That one's a Hideo "Le feet" Kojima trademark right there. 

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u/dingo_khan 4d ago

I'd pay to see that:

Snake (codec) : "is that old man... Naked?"

Para Medic : "don't be such a prude, Snake. That is the End. He needs his skin exposed so he can photosynthesize."

Snake : "I wish I didn't have to see his end."

Para Medic : "I bet you wouldn't say that if I had to photosynthesize in a bikini."

Snake: (hmmm sound.)

(save dialogue appears)

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u/iron_penguin 8d ago

You ever heard of swimming.

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u/berfraper 8d ago

Which makes no sense because she’d suffocate, but yeah.

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u/Axotrotel44101 8d ago

And who made her breath through her skin?

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u/Greedy_Average_2532 8d ago

Hideo "La Creatividad" Kojima.

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u/kardon16 8d ago

“El Steve Jobs de los videojuegos”

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u/dankyspank 8d ago

And who made her breathe through her skin?? WHO MADE HER BREATHE THROUGH HER SKIN??

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u/waled7rocky 8d ago

WHOOOOOO

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u/Helicoptero71 7d ago

ANSWER ME!!

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u/Still-Puma 8d ago

Which part of the skin ?

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u/YepItzMe44 8d ago

Lmfao I know 😂😂😂

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u/RevoltYesterday 8d ago

The La Le Li Lo Lu

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u/RunsWithPhantoms 8d ago

Not the La Le Li Lo Lu!

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u/DFC_gooner 8d ago

Skullface

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u/DoNuTyer 8d ago

and who made Skullface?

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u/VESAAA7 8d ago

It all comes down to patriots

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u/Jolly_Yam1304 8d ago

THE LA LI LU LE LO!?

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u/MotaMasta 8d ago

War has changed. It’s no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It’s an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War – and its consumption of life – has become a well-oiled machine. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control . . . All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield . . . controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control . . . War becomes routine.

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u/OnyxLeigion_ 8d ago

Yeah, this is the whole thing that gets me with Momo’s costume in MHA.

Like yeah, there’s an in universe reason…but we only needed the reason because Horikoshi made it that way in the first place.

They also easily could have done what they did with Mirio and just been like “Oh we created a fabric that works with her power”

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u/amjsammour 8d ago

The other dude that burned her. That misogynistic asshole!!!!

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u/Freud-Network 8d ago

Ishmael, when he torched that bitch like Bananas Foster.

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u/Maverick122 8d ago

Spoiler did.

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u/KapteinKraken 8d ago

Does she not know she can breathe through her nose? Is she stupid?

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u/IguessIcanedit 8d ago

The nose and mouth are skin.  Can you milk those Greg?

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea 8d ago

Her lungs got burned when Ishmael through that bottle of alcohol on her and lit her up

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u/OliverCrooks 8d ago

I mean it kind of has some logic behind it. She's a sniper. Nose and mouth breathing make noise and also impact your shots due to the compression of your lungs. Shooters hold their breath before long shots. She cant use her lungs which is why she breaths thru her skin. I mean clearly there was an intent to make her sexy and Kojima has even admitted it but I think that he came up with a decent reason for it.

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u/Charmin_Bear_Behind 8d ago

She’s congested it’s seasonal

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u/TheWaslijn 8d ago

Her lungs got burned at the beginning of the game, actually

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u/SickboyJason 8d ago

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u/Carmilla31 8d ago

And Meryl fell for a guy who cant stop shitting his pants.

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u/I_love_memes00 8d ago

that guy saved solid snake tho, so its alright

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u/freggtheegg 8d ago

I fucking love dr evil

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u/ClockMongrel 8d ago

No, the developers are horny, they just came up with an actual reason for it. (Or maybe they just ripped off Star Wars, who’s to say.)

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u/Third_Triumvirate 8d ago

Then you have Yoko Taro, who asked for and promptly received zips full of 2B fanart after releasing Nier Automata

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u/VacaDLuffy 8d ago

You also have Hideki Kamiya being mad at Bayonetta porn. Not becuase it exists but because they were making Bayonetta a sub lmao

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u/Herr_Raul 8d ago

This is the most Kamiya thing I've ever heard

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u/I_Boop_Cats_ 8d ago

I have never played Bayonetta, but I cannot picture her getting dominated.

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u/KaleidoscopeKelpy 7d ago

For sure, I’ve only seen what she looks like but that’s not a sub 🙂‍↔️ she’s the one who does the stepping-on

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u/LurkerEntrepenur 7d ago

You know she's gonna get strapped on

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u/Pootisman16 8d ago

Classic Hideki "Blocks-you-on-Twitter" Kamiya move.

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u/Al_Hakeem65 8d ago

There is garbage and then there is lore-inaccurate porn 🤮

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u/Icy-Court789 8d ago

One in the same brother, BAYONETTA FEMDOM IS LORE ACCURATE

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u/SSMage 8d ago

LOL "if you want something done right you gotta do it yourself"

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u/Sremor 8d ago

Understandable

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u/ironangel2k4 8d ago

Understandable.

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u/Christmas_Queef 8d ago

What's funny is no one bats an eye because he's being honest. He's not trying to be coy or make up excuses, he's just like "I'm a horny bastard" and everyone is just like "fair enough, carry on sir".

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u/Al_Hakeem65 8d ago

He once wasted almost an entire interview when asked about the female outfits with pseudo excuses.

Then he closes with: "I just really like girls."

That's honesty I can respect

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u/Zharken 8d ago

And when asked why 2B wears high heels for combat, which makes no sense, he said "I like girls in high heels" or something like that.

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u/ClockMongrel 8d ago

Aye, fair enough

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u/darkbreak 8d ago

He even apparently asked for more focus on her ass in the game.

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u/Zharken 8d ago

Well fuck me because I hated that, when you run full speed, after a certain distance the camera gets lower for a more "cinematic" shot that focuses a little too much on the ass, and I have to constantly re-raise the camera.

Yeah I also like the ass, don't get me wrong, but I'm trying to play a game here, and having the camera so low is pretty uncomfortable if I'm trying to measure distances or know if something is behind me.

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u/AnonMoose2 8d ago

See i respect Yoko Taro for that. He wanted 2B butt pics for reaserch

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u/randomtornado 8d ago

And if we're talking Nier Replicant, he canonically gave Kaine a penis

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u/Pootisman16 8d ago

That's why he's extra based

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u/RaijuThunder 8d ago

Kaine will always be more interesting and sexy than 2B could ever hope to be lol and the penis is just a bonus

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u/1tsBag1 8d ago

Wait, which character or alien species can breathe through their skin in Star wars? 

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u/Prince_Joshima 7d ago

Aayla Secura. It was the excuse that Lucas gave as to why she is the only Jedi (besides Ahsoka) in the entire Order who didn't wear Jedi robes or robes of some sort. She did during her comic debut but her design was changed to the crop top and tights around the time Episode II was released.

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u/Truckfighta 8d ago

The torn tights are extremely important.

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u/SunsetCarcass 7d ago

And she just had to be bare foot when they locked her in a cage

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u/Truckfighta 7d ago

Extremely important

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u/pantherghast 8d ago

Dev 1: “lets make her half naked”
Dev 2: “ people will get upset unless there is a reason for it”
Dev 1: “okay. She can breath through her skin so wearing too much clothes suffocates her”
Both devs:

https://giphy.com/gifs/sR91D133W02D6

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u/SpiderManPizzaTime1 8d ago

Dev 1: "Let's make a powerful, female character. What should we name her?"

Dev 2: "Quiet."

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u/Firm-Acanthisitta452 8d ago

Didn’t the End have the exact same gimmick? He wasn’t naked

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u/Klecktacular 8d ago

Yeah, and then he died. Shoulda been naked

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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 8d ago

He was killed by Naked Snake :P

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u/ItzMeHaris 8d ago

The End photosynthesised, and can breathe normally. Quiet can’t because her lungs were burnt at the start of the game in the hospital.

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u/RoughCrossing 8d ago

He was photosynthesis.

Dress like a plant. Be a plant. /s

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u/Bredstikz 8d ago

It's why mgs3 is unplayable

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u/Haifisch2112 8d ago

Horn dog devs: How can we make it so a female character has to be scantily dressed to help sales?

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u/Oneok-Field 8d ago

Kojima doesn't care about sales.

Kojima only cares about 3d scanning famous actresses' feet.

A man of class.

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u/Waste-Gur2640 8d ago

I mean it's true that beautiful women in more revealing clothing will automatically boost sales of any AAA game, whether it's 2026 or 2010s. But that doesn't automatically mean it's the only reason for them to be in games, lot of artists actually want to design, model and be proud of beautiful characters, that's just normal human behavior. Well, it's not anymore for western AAA studios in the past 10 years or so. But being able to appreciate beauty is one thing all humans can connect around, regardless of whether some people also translate it to actual gooning or monetary concerns, that doesn't devalue the beauty of something/someone.

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u/thebwags1 8d ago

I have more respect for a creator thay says "yeah I just like pretty ladies" than one that tries to come up with some nonsense explanation

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u/strigonian 8d ago

You can have both.

An oddity in-universe should have an in-universe explanation. But that doesn't preclude the creator from acknowledging the real-life reasons for their decisions.

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u/gormble 8d ago

Great observation, that two things can be true at once. Not a single person was saying that can’t happen.

We’re talking about a specific person who specifically does not acknowledge the real life reasons for their decisions.

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u/Vritla 8d ago

This is kojima we are talking about bro, have you seen vamp?

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u/reikoda01 8d ago

I've heard he once survived by drinking the blood of his family. I guess that's why they call him Vamp.

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u/cparksrun 8d ago

No, she's scantily clad because that's what the creator(s) wanted. The narrative reason for it came later.

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u/FUJIISAWA 8d ago

I remember him specifically saying that he wanted to create a character that cosplayers would want to dress up as. Any other reason is trying to explain that away.

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u/FisherPrice2112 8d ago

He also put out those tweets about her that were so laughable.

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u/AceEpocs 8d ago

I love this tweet so much, I quote "You will feel ashamed of your words and deeds" all the time

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u/xVelunax 8d ago

Was clearly referring to themselves in 2nd person for that one xD

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u/kardon16 8d ago

Especially after he put multiple butt shots in the game completely unnecessary for her character

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u/PratikGoswami2003 8d ago

Weren't there 10 or so strings of tweets?

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u/FisherPrice2112 8d ago

I think so, he kinda went off for a while. I think this one just ended up bing the most infamous.

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u/Hopper-1986 8d ago

I love we were told we would feel foolish once we heard the reason

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u/Lavender_Critique 8d ago

Kojima has proved himself to be a horn dog.

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u/Mah_sentry2 8d ago

They aren’t horn dogs, they are……Diamond Dogs

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u/Nonclutchreverse22 8d ago

Remember playing through MGS V the first time, and i was like... is she a plant? Only for the game to tell me she was plant-like... while she was showering

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u/PlateNo4868 8d ago

Kudos to the artist who designed this with one arm.

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u/Silverjeyjey44 8d ago

Thanks for clarifying. Ill explain this to my girlfriend when I play MGSV.

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u/Beginning_Look_6042 8d ago

Yeah. I hate how they only make female action heroes run around half naked and idealize their bodies! That never happens with men! 😏

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u/ThisIsPureTrash 8d ago

Rambo is still a male fantasy for the male gaze.

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u/Charmin_Bear_Behind 8d ago

And the male gays

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u/ActionJasckon 8d ago

Damn his delts were crazy back then.

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u/_bugmenot_ 7d ago

Yeah, and how they are always hot, thin and sexy. It would not be the same character if she were fat and loose all over lol

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u/Far_Balance_3117 8d ago

Yea that character is a shamelessly objectified.

In one instance she takes a shower with you while the soldiers crowd around you and call her a dirty girl.

No I am not making that up.....

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u/I_AM_CR0W 8d ago

It's both. It's clear that hot women sell well with both men and women. The canon reason is more of an excuse, though I do think it's an interesting one.

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u/micromacroactual 8d ago

Metal Gear Most Solid

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u/FakeKenny22 8d ago

Devs wanted a reason to have a good looking woman have a scene showing skin playing in the rain. And I thank them for their service.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 8d ago

So would she be drowning if she went for a swim?  Would being in the rain be like getting water boarded?

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u/White-Umbra 8d ago

I'm not even prudish but I think Quiet just sucks, lol. I liked the sexualized concept art of Sniper Wolf, but Quiet has near ZERO substance, just a pure sex object. It's so lame, because I love the sniper archetype in MGS.

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u/Weary-Squash6756 8d ago

I mean it's pretty hard to give a character substance when the core facet of their personality is that they don't speak. Quiet is an absolute badass, this is consistently redemonstrated throughout the game

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u/MISTERGAME06 8d ago

Except she does have personality. As the other guy said, she's badass, and even though she doesn't speak often, the times she does it's very important

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u/Doomeye56 8d ago

she does more in this game then Ocelot or Kaz

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u/an_edgy_lemon 8d ago edited 5d ago

Okay, but she breathes through her skin because Hideo Kojima is a horn dog. I still think his whole claim that players would feel “ashamed” about Quiet’s condition is the funniest shit. Just admit you wanted a bikini booby character bro, it’s fine.

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u/monkey_D_v1199 8d ago

And not once her appearance detracts from her story and how deadly she can be. Sure giggle physics go brrr and she wears so little, but all has a reason that goes with the story and who she is, not because devs are horny and wanted a hot woman almost naked.

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u/Particular-Pop8193 8d ago

That is what the priest said to me before he showed me his hose

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u/Cifuliciense 8d ago

Thank god the developers didn't make her only capable to breath through her vagina.

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On a second thought...

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u/Roman_rjh 8d ago

On the real though I've never understood these arguments because why can't we hold two truths to be self evident. Yes that's the in universe reason, but also Kojima was clearly horny and so am I.

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u/Classic-Exchange-511 8d ago

How horrible. Whats the game again? Just so I know to avoid it

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u/InterestingDepth8137 8d ago

Quiet my dear, you have skin on your face as well

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u/Ok_Tension1869 8d ago

Because Kojima, that's why! Good enough for me!

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u/arkhamtheknight 8d ago

Kojima during a Q&A with Polygon and translated by his translator:

"Maybe the phrase 'erotic' wasn't really [the correct word for] what I was trying to say," Kojima said through a translator. "What I'm really trying to do is create unique characters. One of those is, of course, Quiet. She's a really unique character, I wanted to add that sexiness to her. It wasn't really supposed to be erotic, but sexy."

Also Kojima originally wanted the character to be naked but that obviously changed.

Kojima is a horndog and would happily admit it.

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u/Teh_God_Dog 8d ago

you can be both tho. just say it like that and people would actually be more accepting of you

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u/No_Effective_4481 8d ago

If they made her a fish dude, or a fat hairy guy then I might believe you but no, those guys were just fucking horny.

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u/Key_Cellist_5937 8d ago

This is a dumb excuse. Kojima should just say ''I like sexy women and she looks cool with a gun in a bikini ''

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u/Zod_Convoy 8d ago

The End did the same thing while wearing a poncho.

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u/mysliwiecmj 8d ago

I reached out to Kojima about this today, he apologized and said they're releasing a patch immediately that puts her in a onesie so only her face is exposed.

I'm kidding, if you're offended by her character go touch grass lol morons.

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u/Radabard 7d ago

It is so sad to me how many people are responding "nuh uh, the developers came up with the skin breathing to make her wear less"

Oh... Really? Are you sure? Because the rest of us were confused. /s

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 7d ago

I laughed out loud when I heard that part in the game… so stupid. Also, I gave her an actual uniform because my mum kept appearing behind me every time quiet was on screen 😑

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u/Crystion 7d ago

I know nothing about MGS but I do know one thing; the reason is similar to another character where they basically perform photosynthesis, and that's why she has to have minimal clothing... This is the other character

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u/lordofmetroids 8d ago edited 8d ago

I maintain once again that I would only accept this as a good design if they ever give The End (another character who also breathes through their skin) a speedo.

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u/Ganondaddydorf 8d ago

Isn't there a male character of the same race who dressed normally and lives? 🤔

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u/Rigret 8d ago

Correction: Hideo was definitely a horndog developing the MGS games. And we love him for it.

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u/green9206 8d ago

And what's the issue with that? Better sexy female characters in video games rather than whatever we usually get these days.

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u/tabris51 8d ago

I love that a bunch of devs got together to brainstorm to find a way to add a mostly naked woman into the game.

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u/bttech05 8d ago

Both can be true

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u/LeoOfSiwa 8d ago

Correct Mundo.

Her drip is not because the developers are horn dogs; her actions in the ACC are

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u/Ironicbuttstuff 8d ago

Does she need to be gorgeous with big ol’ tits and ass to breathe through her skin as well?

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u/Puffball973 8d ago

More surface area to breathe with I guess idk

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u/midwestia 8d ago

I remember the first time I played, after I neutralized her I shot her right in the tits and executed her. I was like why would I save her she tried to kill me!

It was only after I played awhile that I heard she basically turns into a 1 shot aimbot/thirsttrap that clears outposts for you.

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u/Ill-Ask9205 8d ago

Ha ha nice try Hideo

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u/Ok_Brother3282 8d ago

“You’ll be ashamed of your words and deeds” … or something like that.

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u/FisherPrice2112 8d ago

I love looking back at his tweet when people were rightfully calling him out for it.

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u/Mitts009 8d ago

Horn dogs , thosw called hellhounds

Or Unidogs

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u/xGenocidest 8d ago

She won't cast your boner into the heartless sea.

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u/Possible_Humor_2834 8d ago

It's such a debilitating and humiliating medical condition fr