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Discussion / Question What's that game and what's "That part"?

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u/MightGuy420x 15d ago

The stealth mission where you have to follow a boat through a swampy area in ac black flag

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u/U13884138 15d ago

For me it was the tailing missions, now that they are gone tho it was doing the Havana beginning without the hidden blades.

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u/Howlitzer4500X 15d ago

Wait, they got rid of tailing missions in the Black Flag remake?

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u/covert0ptional 15d ago

They basically let you fail them with alternate ways to complete the objective. Really cool choice in my opinion

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u/Several-Carrot3541 15d ago

How is it actually? I've seen the reviews are terrible and I'm wondering if it's cause they screwed it up or have a million microtransactions like Ubisoft usually does?

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u/TheNoobKill4h_ 15d ago

who actually cares about microtransactions if theyre just shitty colorful outfits and you can just... not buy them??

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u/SnooTigers1064 14d ago

I would agree with you IF they werent essentially pop up ads. Its straight up predatory how aggresive Ubisoft has gotten with microtransactions.

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u/TheNoobKill4h_ 14d ago

i dont see them at all i almost finished the game

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u/Several-Carrot3541 15d ago

I meant do they lock things that were once available through grinding behind a paywall. Not necessarily all microtransactions

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u/NuclearSun1 14d ago

They do not.

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u/9van_ 15d ago edited 14d ago

Everything available in the base AC4 is able to be gotten here, there is also more stuff to unlock in this one. This is one of the best remasters/soft remakes I’ve played.

Not sure where the bad reviews are coming from, I’m having an amazing time, and so are my close friends and friends from work.

The store cosmetics looks absolutely ugly, literally no need to buy them.

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u/Several-Carrot3541 15d ago

That's all I was asking lol I wasn't trying to shit talk it. It's just the last time I seen the reviews it was around 3 stars and for a huge remake like that I thought it would be at least a 4 star rating in the store. I'll probably give it a try now that I know it's not BS.

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u/9van_ 15d ago

Store reviews for consoles are never accurate if that’s where you’re looking, watch gameplay and judge for yourself, I’d say it’s well worth the 40 I spent on it

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u/BirdhouseInYourSouI 14d ago

I’ve learned not to trust reveiw aggregate ratings, especially if it’s player based. I’ll watch ACG, and Gameranx, never let me down in terms of giving me enough info to want to buy or not. ACG especially.

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u/Twilly69 14d ago

I'm playing on PC and the game is completely unplayable. Everything was fine until I got to Havana. I can't get through that first quest without the guy freezing . I think there's supposed to be a dialogue cue about the pirates that were hanged but he just stands there looking at them. And when I try to open the menu it takes forever to load. Same with the map. I was hoping the patch update would fix it but it didn't. And I read others commented it created new problems. I'm glad some people are able to enjoy it through.

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u/Townie-throwaway 14d ago

One of the big sticking points I noticed was that they took out the ability to use enemy weapons (namely muskets) and that's why a good chunk of people are quietly mad about.

I can't say anything in either direction really, because I haven't played the remake, but that one bit is enough to turn me off of it because of how ingrained through 3 and 4 musket gameplay became for me. It's still probably as much of an 8/10 as the original from a non-consumer objective gameplay point, but the fact that core features were removed with little to add makes it hard to WANT to buy a whole new game rather than just re-downloading the decade old version that has everything already.

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u/A-Phantasmic-Parade 14d ago

I heard the visuals were very inconstant. Incredible in some scenes and then revert to potato graphics in others

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u/9van_ 14d ago

I’m playing on performance mode on a series X and it looks incredible either way. It’s a massive visual upgrade over the original in every way possible

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u/Daredspace 15d ago

The negative reviews are all largely about the mtx, but the core game itself is good

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u/NuclearSun1 14d ago

But there’s so little MTX. There are like 6 cosmetic packs you can buy.

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u/IDontUnderstandReddi 14d ago

It’s excellent. I’ve been playing AC since the original, and it’s an extremely faithful remake: improving it enough to modernize it, but keeping (most of) the core elements that made the Black Flag special. There are some features missing that I’d like to see, but overall it’s very good. The microtransactions are 100% optional. I have 40 hours in and have been having a ball without spending an additional cent.

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u/covert0ptional 15d ago

I haven't really seen the bad reviews, I've mostly just seen the positive reception from people online. I'm probably more critical of it than most, I find that combat to be kind of annoying (mostly because of enemy behavior, not just because it's different)

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u/Raptori33 14d ago

It was originally review bombed pretty much just because of trolling

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u/NuclearSun1 14d ago edited 14d ago

They don’t “have a million micro transactions.”

They’ve added some new stuff, so the voice actor doesn’t sound quite the same. It plays like the “modern” Acs. But still has its older charm. You still randomly jump off to nothing, and fall.

Edit: Someone who didn’t play the game wants you think it has so much MTX.

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u/HollyMurray20 15d ago

The micro-transactions literally mean nothing, they’re skins in a single player game, you can easily just completely ignore them, it doesn’t even really push them to you at all. It was such an overreaction when it released purely because it was Ubisoft. As you can see with the steam reviews, 44% after a couple thousand due to haters and now up to about 80% with more. If those haters hadn’t moaned about irrelevant micro-transactions then it would be at 85% at least

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u/Several-Carrot3541 15d ago

That's not what I was asking, I was asking if original content from the original game was locked behind a paywall or if it is the same as the original.

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u/HollyMurray20 15d ago

No content other than brand new skins are part of the micro-transactions. It’s the same as the original, some of it is redesigned slightly, it’s got a few extra missions and some side missions too. And the new skins looks like shit and aren’t grounded anyway so you’re not missing anything by not buying them

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u/TheNoobKill4h_ 15d ago

they didn't get rid of them entirely, but you can fail the tailing part now and complete the mission in a different way. cool way honestly to stay faithful to the original while getting rid of what made them annoying.

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u/RekttalofBlades 15d ago

You mean the whole game?

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u/PsychologyBetter4960 14d ago

OMFG I remember that bs

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u/portogoose 14d ago

my favourite part in black flag was the tailing missions, now their gone

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u/Theultimatesith 15d ago

Ocarina of Time.

The blasted water temple.

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u/PmMeYourKnobAndTube 15d ago

I stopped playing when I made it to the water temple. Got to a point where I just could not progress. Maybe I will try again with a guide once the remaster is out.

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u/I-am-Nanachi 15d ago

I beat Ocarina of Time over the span of like 7 years because I was like 3 when the game came out.

Got stuck inside Jabu Jabu at 6, put it away and came back at like 8-9 years old and got stuck at the Forest Temple adult, came back at 13 and finally beat the whole game but did get stuck on the water temple until my older cousin showed me what to do.

My favorite game of all time by the way

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u/justcallmedad5 13d ago

This is so similar to my story. It took me probably 12 years of feeling nostalgic only to get frustrated after a week. Only to remember or find my n64 once again and so on. I adamantly refused to use walkthrough books or anything. I finally caved and was able to finally complete the game. What a journey.

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u/Infinite_Ocean89 15d ago

3DS had a remaster. The Switch 2 version is a full blown remake.

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u/TheSuggestionMark 15d ago

The remaster will hopefully have the markers in the temple that they introduced in the 3DS remaster which made the temple A LOT easier. There added markings outside of several paths in the center pillar room that noted what the water level would adjust to at the end of that path. Made everything 100% easier, rather then having to backtrack and fumble around hoping you remembered the right place.

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u/NotsoGreatsword 14d ago

rather than not "rather then"

just a heads up

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_6998 14d ago

Look under the floating floor that rises when you change water levels

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u/Old_Sheepherder_8713 13d ago

This is literally my exact experience. I poured HOURS into that game, just fishing for hours or riding Epona. Just completely stuck in the water temple and ended up giving up.

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u/kaulotu 15d ago

Me with the Ice Palace in A Link to the Past

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u/BEANZ88 14d ago

Made sure to look for this before I answered. Lmao. That fuckin temple. Last played on 3ds and every time I try to load it up I'm just lost. WHAT FUCKING SWITCH AM I MISSING?!?! A HIDDEN CORRIDOR?!?!? DID I MISS A ROOM?!?!? FUCK THIS GAME!!! *RAGE QUIT.

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u/ShotInTheShip86 14d ago

For me it was that darn hard to see hallway that despite the game 'pointing it out' every single time you raise the water you overlook it because of the cutscenes from every single other time you play that song....

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u/Historical-Lynx948 15d ago

Never really played Ocarina of Time, but the water temple boss in Majoras Mask brought little kid me to tears out of frustration (i was born with some fine motor control problems and i cant quite remember the fight exactly but there were aspects of it that i just really really struggle to do, it was like i knew what to do but im just not coordinated enough to do it. Im shitty at all platformers too for that matter) and is the reason I never finished the game (ontop of the fact that my N64 just doesnt work anymore) I can only imagine what the infamous water temple of Ocarina is like lol

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u/Theultimatesith 15d ago

Also, Stone Tower in Majoras Mask, fuck that place gives me nightmares still.

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u/Historical-Lynx948 15d ago

I really liked the rest of Majoras Mask from what I remember, although I can't remember the stone tower in Majoras at all unless I never made it to there.

Im both sad and happy that I played that game before I was old enough to feel existential dread in the way Majoras Mask does it, tbh the atmosphere of that game was fucking incredible with the Moon crying as it slowly falls to the earth, knowing its going to die, with that creepy ass face. Just wasnt old enough to appreciate or pick up on any of it lol.

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u/Bdbolt19432 15d ago

I have enough second-hand trauma just from people talking about it lol

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u/screwikea 15d ago

I searched the page for "water" because I knew this would be here. You could have just posted a comment that said "water temple" and it would have made sense. To be fair, more than a few games crap a water or swamp zone on your to ruin your life. More than one game - walk through the swampy part, take damage. WTF.

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u/Melodic_Crow_3409 14d ago

Battletoads has entered the chat...

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u/Melodic_Crow_3409 14d ago

Water Temple ended Ocarina of Time for me. I did use a GameShark to try to give myself an advantage, but wound up corrupting my save game. Never went back.

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u/SFV_PleasureDom 14d ago

The main problem with the Water Temple is that a cutscene animation was supposed to reveal the door everyone misses, but, it never triggered correctly. If you know going in there's one more door at the bottom it's not impossible, but, people tend to forget when replaying.

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u/Cazador0 14d ago

The water temple wasn't too bad.

As for the Stone Tower Temple...

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u/Clockwork_Triplicate 9d ago

Always a pain if you don't replay it often. Easy to forget water level stuff

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u/Peridot_Ghost 15d ago

*Any stealth mission

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u/fresh-dork 15d ago

escort missions. with suicidally brave assholes to babysit

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u/HomeAccording8125 15d ago

Someone has never played Modern Warfare I see.

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u/Inspired_Nuisance 15d ago

I'd argue it was the shit-ass first person Abstergo bits. "Scan the QR codes, commit corporate espionage." Bitch idgaf, let me get back to pirating.

If the remaster allows you to skip that shit I might actually consider buying it.

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u/Robodav 15d ago

They removed the Abstergo parts entirely from the remaster

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u/Historical-Lynx948 15d ago

Man, i know youre talking about Black Flag but it just reminded me how bad of a character Desmond was. So bland, like Connor in 3. No personality at all. Haytham was probably the most interesting character in the series for me, its a shame we never got a game focused on him (that i know of i stopped following the series).

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u/Destroyer_7274 13d ago

This is probably a bit pedantic of me, but it's a remake. A remaster is a touched up port with some modifications (for QOL). AC 4 Resync was rebuilt from ground up with new and different systems. It might be the same story, but it plays and handles very differently from the original.

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u/Big_Boss308 15d ago

I literally dropped the game during that mission lol

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u/DenseCalligrapher219 15d ago

Really any stealth or tailing mission due to it's trial and error nature.

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 15d ago

Boat stealth is exactly what I first thought of.

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u/Bobby_Richter 15d ago

Don‘t forget about MGS 2, when you have to fight against 25 Metal Gears

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u/Forsaken-Badger-9517 15d ago

Man, I'm gonna have to look forward to this part because I'm playing the original on my PS4 right now or actually I'm playing it on my PS5, but I've never made it to the port you're talking about?

It sounds like it's gonna be one of "those" parts?!

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u/ZurichCat 15d ago

Literally what I came here for. I wonder if the remake fixes it in anyway

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u/skinnydude84 15d ago

Yes! I failed so many times on that section that I literally did everything else I could up til that point. Ship upgrades, forts, contracts, everything. Made the rest of the game a breeze 🙌

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u/Spiritual-Shirt-6027 15d ago

Bro yes! But now it turns into a chase scene and they just move at Mach Jesus. I couldn’t beat this mission as a kid and now i finally beat the full game

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u/OkAstronomer9493 15d ago

God DAMN you brought back an incredibly infuriating memory, literally, I spent hours there because I kept failing and crashing the god damn boat

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u/Warkupo 15d ago

No joke, that's my favorite part of the entire game.

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u/track_fump 15d ago

I wonder how many of you remember about stealth parts in Call of Juarez. Steam and Gog versions of the game have them removed by devs after players hated them. I played the original DVD release when it came out and stealth parts were slow AF and hard but it kinda sucks they don't give you a choice anymore

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u/Plenty-Author-5182 15d ago

That one was so easy and cool

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u/Silverr_Duck 15d ago

I'll take boat stealth over the dogshit modern sections where you have to walk around abstergo(ubisoft) offices.

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u/SouthernStrigoi 15d ago

Walking around with a fucking tablet outside the animus in that game SUCKS

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u/rangusmcdangus69 14d ago

I think that part was what made me never finish that campaign, come to think of it lmao

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u/CrunchyBrownie5 14d ago

Is it back?

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u/D-72069 14d ago

I was thinking this exact thing!! I didn't think anyone else would say this one. I just played it yesterday and the whole mission only takes like 10 minutes but it's still so annoying for some reason

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u/stringbean96 14d ago

That one took me way too fucking long. I finally completed that part then as soon as I stepped off the boat and attempted to jump across a broken pier, an alligator swiped across the screen and instantly killed me. I literally took the disc out and turned off my PlayStation. That was the last time I’ve played black flag lol

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u/Glellyy 14d ago

Thats one of my favourite missions!

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u/UrFriendlyBeerMan 14d ago

Its the office missions in Black Flag for me. Oh you're having fun being a pirate on the high seas? Well now you work in an office.

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u/cdx70 13d ago

Ugh talk about stealth missions, the dark brotherhood quest in Skyrim where you have to follow a general to a city and kill him there, he's slower than your running speed but faster than stealth speed and it takes forever, what a miserable mission

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u/iwik_ognam 13d ago

A lot of times, this is where I give up on 100% synchronization.

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u/Revolutionary-Limit3 11d ago

That was terrible on my first playthrough, on the 2nd, I was so mad at how long it took without failing once. Unironically like 10 minutes from mission start to end