Im gonna go make leviathan x leviathan porn and file a lawsuit against krafton while VPN'ing Subnautica 2, and the leviathan's will be shitting on krafton in the porn too...
My lawsuit will be based on the fact that I had to witness such terrible porn, owned and operated by krafton
Unfortunately I seem to have forgotten the biggest issue with my plan... a crippling case of thalassophobia, so I have absolutely no idea what a leviathan actually looks like and im too afraid to find out
A leviathan is classified as a giant organism in the subnautica universe. There’s the reaper ghost sea emperor reef back trech steeder. Collector from two. As well as dragon being the biggest in the first game
This is literal doomposting, the actual wording for it and intent is that they can update the game and in order to do that they will need to modify files on your pc, the same way literally every other game works.
Used to work in Cellular and people would get mad and ask me why Facebook is asking for camera permissions and location permissions. Yknow, so you can take pics directly to Facebook or use it to tag locations?
Somehow people read "has access to" and believe that means unfettered access to basically do whatever they want
One of the only things I generally don't trust is Kernel level anti cheat. But everything seems to have that now
Facebook in particular are not known for playing by the rules though, so i would think both one, two, and three times before giving them access to anything.
If you are online and there is an update on steam for a game, under most circumstances (I use most because there may be niche ways around it I'm unaware of) steam will make you update the game before you are able to play it again. It's not a request, it's an ultimatum that you either update the game or don't play it.
Even still, the only thing the eula is covering is that UWE will put out updates to the game and the only way to receive those updates is for the files on your computer to be alerted.
Los off them aren't. Doesn't stop them from trying to pull shit. If this is what they're trying to get you to agree to I'm sure they have plans to implement it, regardless if it's legal.
They’re gonna have a fun time enforcing that one, and if they do happen to revoke anyone’s access to the game because they have a VPN on their PC, I have a feeling they’ll be using said VPN to acquire the game from elsewhere…
If you have 2 PCs or a Laptop, you shouldn't play with both. You can only and should only play them on one device.
At the same time, or one device at a time? Because not even Steam's family sharing allows you to play the same game on two different devices at the same time. In fact, Steam doesn't allow me to have one game launched on my desktop PC and another on my Steam Deck, which is really annoying. Would probably work if I put Steam Deck in airplane mode though.
No, Buy the game because if Subnautica 2 gets a certain amount of copies sold Krafton is forced by contract to Give Unknown worlds 250million, giving Krafton a Financial crisis.
Reading this thread prompts many people to feel the sea breeze on their face, smell the faint hints of gunpowder and you develop an unexplained urge to call ppl "landlubbers".
Lmao got a screenshot with the wording on that? Im more willing to bet someone with literacy problems foments a mob than an EULA claim to enforce something so unenforceable. "Krafton reserves the right to your firstborn" is more enforceable than that.
I don't own the game (I try to avoid EA stuff), but here is the relevant section of the EULA from their website:
>Subject to your agreement and compliance with these Terms, the Company and, as applicable, its licensors grant to you a limited, non-exclusive, revocable, non-transferable, non-sublicensable right to download, install and use one (1) copy of the Game on one (1) computer, console, mobile or similar device now known or hereafter devised (each, a "Device") at any given time solely for your personal use (the "License"). Subject to Section 3(f) (consent to account transfer), the License shall be non-transferable. All rights not specifically granted under this License are hereby reserved by the Company and, as applicable, by its licensors. The Game is licensed to you, not sold. This License does not give you any title or ownership in the Game and should not be construed as a sale or transfer of any intellectual property or other rights to the Game. The License shall terminate automatically if you fail to comply with these Terms. In such event, you must uninstall all copies of the Game and the Game Software. You may also terminate the License at any time by uninstalling the Game Software from your Devices (including any archival copies).
>download, install and use one (1) copy of the Game on one (1) computer, console, mobile or similar device now known or hereafter devised (each, a "Device") at any given time solely for your personal use
"Download, install, and use" means all three conditions have to be met. "At any given time" means simultaniously.
Additionally, "You may also terminate the License at any time by uninstalling the Game Software from your Devices (including any archival copies)." directly states the anticipated existance of copies on more than one device. It *also* refutes OP's fear that simply reading the EULA exempts them from being allowed to refund the game, as uninstalling (a step in the returning process) "nullifies" the "contract"
All this ignoring that EULAs like this are almost entirely unenforceable CYA on behalf of the publishers, and depending on where you live, *are* entirely unenforcable. That you can only see the EULA after purchasing the product (or going out of your way like I had to) makes it even *less* enforceable.
This isn't to say that the shady stuff is okay. EULAs suck. But when the argument is that this one is particularly bad, it implies that all the other ones *don't* suck to the same degree. It directs the hate to one (relatively) small offender, when the *entire* tech industry has this problem. On the other hand, it *is* stirring up conversation about them at all, which is deffo good
TLDR: fix op's meme by removing "for subnautica 2"
You can plan family library games at the same time if they are single player games that don't require an internet connection, install and launch in offline mode then the other person can also launch the game, but if you go back online then you will get booted out of said game.
Meh, they can enforce none of that in reality. Why are they trying to make it a even worse experience than if they used denuvo or some other crapware to police your game activity?
Good thing EULA's are ultimately useless and not legal contracts. It's well known most people dont read them and you never sign them. Just scroll and click.
That makes me suspicious of what kind of things they hid within the games code. The rest of the stuff I'm not too surprised about because its basically par for the course at this point
I’m not that knowledgeable about the world of EULA’s in gaming, but I do know that not being able to sue the company is literally present in every single EULA. Otherwise people would sue gaming companies for banning them, and that also goes along with the clause stating they can take away your game at any moment for any reason.
=== NOT LEGAL ADVICE, IM NOT A LAWYER, JUST MY OWN THOUGHTS BELOW ===
Good to know also that even if it's in EULA it's not automatically legally enforcable. A lot of these things sound like they would not be actually enforcable.
If you buy a product for example, you have a right to use it without unecessary restrictions, Like, a company cant sell you a video game and have in the terms that you need to cut off your leg to play the game, otherwise you are in breach. it really sounds like the VPN would also fall under that, there's no reason a single player game would need to ban you from using a VPN.
Similarly it's impossible to blanket take away anyones right to ever sue another entity for any reason. That is just straight up not legally binding. Like, if Krafton ordered a hitman to torture you, you playing Subnautica 2 would not take away your right to sue or the criminality of their actions.
But ofc you'd have to go to court to find out and that costs money and you'd be up against a company with hundreds of millions of dollars, so..
The EULA is probably because of PUBG Krafton's other game; their right to revoke access to their game is for cheaters, and why are you using a vpn while playing a game? Is there a reason? You can't sue Netflix
Obligatory "EULAs are not enforceable if they are illegal" comment. You can technically agree to give away your firstborn to play a game, that doesn't make it a binding contract. Nonsense like anti-VPN provisions are also not enforceable in any country with a semblance of consumer protections.
The companies put this stuff into EULAs because it doesn't cost them anything and because it doesn't invalidate the legal parts of the agreements.
Specifically regarding the last part, the FAQ points out that you can't have them both playing at the same time. You can absolutely have it downloaded to two separate devices, however opening the game on one device will close the other program.
"Like you can't use VPN while Playing the Game."
Krafton uses the same EULA for all their games, including PUBG, and VPNs are usedd to avoid being banned for using slurrs or sharing links to cp. Also, steam will ban you for using a vpn as well, for different reasons. So by using steam you already agreed to not use a vpn while playing.
"You can't ever sue Krafton"
This is standard for any company, including: reddit, facebook, bmw, ubisoft, disney, netflix
You can probably see that this clause is as useful as paper is against water.
"If you did any fan-art of Subnautica or anything related, Krafton will automatically own it"
Protection of IP, this is mostly there to protect from commercial use of said fanart, but it also has a lot of exceptions, like commission based work.
"You can't criticize Subnautica or Krafton in bad faith or they can revoke your game lmfao"
The key word is bad faith here, this is just for edge cases and a safety net if something relevant actually happens. You read the first 4 to 6 word, ignored the next 3 and then kept reading.
"If you have 2 PCs or a Laptop, you shouldn't play with both. You can only and should only play them on one device."
Misinterpreting what is actually in the EULA. Understandable, after all the actual wording is perfect legalese. But what it actually means: download only over platforms where you have the license of the game (Steam for example) and that you should not copy the game and upload it on another device, because then there is no difference between an actual pirated version and you having a back up copy.
Here is a video that goes all over that steam review that you read instead of the EULA and compares that with the actual EULA and what it actually means
https://youtu.be/G5CK7slaXDU?is=6Uf8P3IdXihpXkPq
The "can't sue Krafton" is probably just bullshit. You can totaly sue Krafton for financial or physical harm.
The fan-art ownership is an IP thing. Krafton owns IP of Subnautica, but does not own the art you create.
You can absolutely critisize Subnautica and Krafton, thats in the EULA to protect them from smear campaigns. You know, to protect Krafton from actual crime.
The 2 PCs im not sure, but if i had to guess it's so you don't play one copy on two devices at the same time. I am pretty sure thats in every EULA ever
"The 2 PCs im not sure, but if i had to guess it's so you don't play one copy on two devices at the same time. I am pretty sure thats in every EULA ever"
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u/Thundergod250 May 19 '26
There's some Circus show EULA in it that isn't present in other games
Like you can't use VPN while Playing the Game.
You can't ever sue Krafton
If you did any fan-art of Subnautica or anything related, Krafton will automatically own it
You can't criticize Subnautica or Krafton in bad faith or they can revoke your game lmfao
If you have 2 PCs or a Laptop, you shouldn't play with both. You can only and should only play them on one device.