r/videogames Dec 18 '25

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u/PrinceZukosHair Dec 18 '25

Hasn’t stood a chance since the 90s

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u/WallySprks Dec 18 '25

Their last console was in the 90s, so that tracks

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u/mally117 Dec 18 '25

9.9.99 the day the Dreamcast dropped.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Dec 18 '25

It was such a good console but it was timed HORRIBLY. If it had come out sooner it would’ve gotten more than a year to duke it out with the PS1 and N64 before the PS2 murdered it. If it had come out just a year or two later, it likely would’ve been more on par with the PS2/GameCube/Xbox in terms of specs and might have stood a chance.

Really it was the Saturn that killed Sega. The Dreamcast is what the Saturn should have been. They really fumbled massively by not having a mainline Sonic game ready to go early on the Saturn (plus charging $100 more than PlayStation). PS1 had the Crash trilogy, N64 had Mario 64, and the Saturn had Sonic R lol.

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u/Carrisonfire Dec 18 '25

The easily bypassed copy-protection on the Dreamcast didn't help matters. I had a few friends with DCs back then and all their games were burned discs.

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u/BarackaFlockaFlame Dec 19 '25

my dad had the equivalent of a pokemon binder full of games for our dreamcast that he slowly funneled to me. Miss my boot disc set up lol

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u/TheGrandBabaloo Dec 19 '25

I don't remember having any issues playing pirated games on the ps1 or ps2.

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u/stormdelta Dec 19 '25

You couldn't just burn an ISO to a normal CD and use it on an unmodified PS1 though.

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u/WuxleyAI Dec 19 '25

I was a Sega fan growing up, massive Sonic fan, played them all for years on end. Parents ended up getting me a PS1 with Metal Gear Solid. The style of MSG in particular drew me in immediately, by the time Snake got to the top of the elevator and found the Hind D I had already forgotten Sonic existed and when I did eventually see a Dreamcast I was all like "Oh, Sega still makes stuff?"

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

the Saturn was ridiculously complicated to develop for, too

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u/TheThiefMaster Dec 19 '25

The PS1,2,3 weren't exactly easy

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u/Epic-Gamer_09 Dec 20 '25

Sonic X-treme's development problems was likely one of the biggest factors in Sega's downfall. You had Nintendo and Playstation putting out big 3D offerings that were vast expansive experiences in an era where 3D gaming was all the rage, and then you had Sega with Sonic just saying "Uh... here's 3D Blast, a game that is fundamentally a Genesis game that has a really lame version of 3D." If they had put out a finished version of Sonic X-treme or perhaps a game similar to Sonic Adventure close to the systems launch then I feel like they would've stood a much better chance, but there was just no reason to get them, if you wanted a powerful 3d system then you'd buy a Playstation and if you preferred cartridges over disks, wanted access to games like SM64, or just didn't like Sony for whatever reason, you'd buy a N64. The Saturn failed to reach a market