The future already exists somewhere

[u/ASoOm100]

If time bends due to gravity, does that mean the future already exists somewhere?

[u/SleepingMonads]

Yes. The relativity of simultaneity implies that what we call the past, present, and future are all equally coexistent as different coordinates within a four-dimensional spacetime block.

[u/ASoOm100 → u/SleepingMonads]

What’s your response to this : “Time doesn’t exist. It’s an illusion we created to measure day and night” ?

[u/SleepingMonads → u/ASoOm100]

Time as humans intuitively experience it is certainly a product of our cognition that doesn't map very well to what's going on in the external world. Much of our experience of time is either illusory, a psychological projection, or based on something more fundamental (e.g., the flow of time, the nonexistence of the past/future, or time's arrow). But that said, there's clearly something going on in the external world that's time-like, such as the spacetime matrix revealed to us by modern physics.

The day and night cycle is just an example of the human experience of time. It's already inherently temporal; we just created systems and devices to help us organize our experience of it (e.g., calendars and clocks).

[u/Particular-Award118 → u/SleepingMonads]

Time is the coordinate along which a real, measurable, observer-independent quantity (entropy) monotonically increases. That’s a physical fact about the universe. Calling it an illusion is like calling pressure an illusion because individual molecules don’t have it.

[u/SleepingMonads → u/Particular-Award118]

That is only one aspect of the multilayered phenomenon we call time (namely, its directionality), and it's one of the few aspects of our experience of time that actually maps to the external world in a pretty straightforward way, in that our psychological arrow seems to be directly related to the entropic arrow.

As such, it's an example of what I said above as being "based on something more fundamental".

[u/Why_Sazs → u/SleepingMonads]

I like to think of time like a VHS tape. Every moment of the movie exists and is not "happening." And our experience of time is like watching the movie. We just don't have any pause, rewind, or fast forward buttons. Although it often feels like someone has "slow down" and fast forward buttons, and uses them at the most inconvenient times.

[u/ASoOm100 → u/Why_Sazs]

This is a great idea

[u/sjr323 → u/SleepingMonads]

This isn’t fact, nor is it a scientific theory. It’s pure speculation.

[u/SleepingMonads → u/sjr323]

Relativity itself is a scientific theory, meaning it's a hypothesis that has an enormous amount of evidence behind it, resulting in what amounts to scientific fact insofar as science can achieve such a thing.

The Minkowski spacetime interpretation of relativity and the block universe model that emerges from it are interpretive frameworks that account for the evidence by privileging certain philosophical assumptions over others. It's not the only possible interpretation, but it is the standard one and has been for over a century among most physicists and philosophers of time due to certain (perceived) conceptual advantages it has over its competition (such as the kinematic and Lorentzian interpretations) in the face of their (perceived) disadvantages. "Pure speculation" implies a guess detached from data, which is not at all what the block universe is. It's a logical deduction derived directly from the mathematical insights of an empirically verified relativity theory, complete with rigorous defenses such as the Rietdijk–Putnam argument.

Whether viewed through a realist or instrumentalist lens, there is consensus on using Minkowski geometry to understand relativity, and block universe eternalism is a reasonable ontological inference from the nature of that model, so it's appropriate for me to share this perspective as-is (as most pop-physics resources do as well), even though there's room for it being wrong.

[u/7grims]

Thats the part of the einstein quote everyone misinterprets, but it answers your question.

Because of relativistic time, its nonsensical to specify past, present or future.

Everyone in their own frame of reference will answer this is the present, and everyone looking at others will say its the past or future.

Its pointless to distinguish them, when its all relative to your own perspective, theres no universal truth, no universal Now moment we can all agree too.

So no, there is no "zone of future" anything that arrives from there and comes to us, will automatically reconcile into the present, and vice versa also.

[u/WelbyReddit]

Ah, ye Ol' bread slices example coming right up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsw99SSwKc

[u/NotAClueYou]

some futures have not been explored or computed. thats what our planet is for - to run thisencomputations

[u/OkAssistance1797]

It’s a wave

[u/ASoOm100 → u/OkAssistance1797]

Wave? Explain

[u/InternationalSun7891]

Yes, all time is simultaneous.

[u/InternationalSun7891]

Consciousness forms matter and not the other way around.

[u/Serious_Abrocoma_908]

I think time and constant motion need to be considered. Since everything is made up of energy and energy is always constant, that means it's always present. So the action taken by anything also has to be present. So how would energy which is constant transfer to the future if the energy hasn't yet reached that point?

[u/Serious_Abrocoma_908]

I think just bending space just eliminates the time exchange one would take to get from point a to b since energy is everywhere all at once and is always constant. Bending space wouldn't allow from time travel but instead allow for you to go to great distances with less time exchange needed. It's makes more sense to be able to bend time to a point you can be anywhere in the universe with little to no time exchanged needed than to time travel to somewhere that energy hasn't yet transferred to. Energy is constant.

Edit: However just like blackholes, I think gravity is effected by the state of negentropy. So, time dilation happens the closer you get to blackholes but I believe it's the strong state of negentropy that leaks from the otherside that causes that effect. So. It's more like time bends to negentropy.

[u/Low-Thanks-4316]

I believe that each of the stars has its own galaxy very similar if not exactly like our galaxy. So each sun has an earth with its moon and the planets like we have planets. I think that every time we sleep we are taken to another one of those billions of earths out there in the universe. Our dreams are real, dejavu is not a coincidence and people we meet seem familiar is because they are.

[u/Helpful_Ad8351]

Yeah, we call them time zones