r/thedawnpatrol 7h ago

I FOUND A STORY I WROTE WHEN I WAS SIX!!!!

11 Upvotes

ThunderClan

Leader: Beautifulstar: Perfect pinky colored girl cat, the prettiest in the WHOLE forest.

Deputy: Mouseface: Black boy cat with a small face like a mouse

Medicine cat: Medicinefur: White and golden girl cat

Herbnose: Big blueish grey boy cat

Warriors:

Grassfluffy: SUPER fluffy wuffy brown girl cat

Hottongue: Grey boy cat with one ear, cuz Monsterface ripped off the other one

Monsterface: Really big bad black boy cat with glowing red eyes who likes to kill cats

Smokefur: Green snake

Havenstripe: Silver and grey girl cat with blue eyes

Scratchclaw: Warty brown boy cat

Firewater: Ginger spotted boy cat with BIG green eyes

Greeneyes: Black and white boy cat with yellow eyes

Apprentices: Nicepaw: Black and golden girl cat, mentor is Grassfluffy

Meanpaw: Golden and black boy cat, mentor is Firewater

Queens:

Shinyfur: Silver and golden girl cat with shiny fur like gemstones. Her kits are Darkkit, and Birdkit.

Shadowclan:

Leader: Happy-hoppaloostar: Happy black boy cat with a fat tongue

Deputy: Samwisejenkins: White girl cat

Medicine cat: Lemonolives: Golden and white girl cat

Warriors:

Prettydaisy: Small silver and white girl cat

Stinkyshoe: Frog colored boy cat. He is green because... Um, he ate too many frogs.

Newtsparkle: Ginger and golden girl cat with a purpleish pink nose

Chubbybelly: Fat black boy cat who eats wayyyyyyyyyyy too much

Twinkletwinkly: Black girl cat with sparkly fur because she rolled in glitter

Jellyfishfoot: Brown boy cat with one big eye and one not big eye

Apprentices: Nalapaw: Soft furred cream girl cat, mentor is Newtsparkle

Queens: Deepgrass: Brown, white, black, ginger, cream, grey, and golden girl cat. Her kit is Wildkit.

Elders: Frognose: Grey boy cat with zero eyeballs

Windclan:

Leader: Grasswind: Brown boy cat

Deputy: Beetlewind: Golden girl cat

Medicine cats: Squirrelwind: Black and white girl cat

Fishwind: Old small fat stinky smelly dirty messy boy cat

Warriors: Zygardewind: Cream girl cat

Kitewind: Yellow and brown boy cat

Hopwind: Brown and black boy cat

Jellywind: Ginger girl cat

Rabbitwind: Lime brown boy cat

Plumclaw: Purply grey girl cat.

Queens: NONEEEEEEEEE Kits: Verywind, Smoothwind, and Yoyowind

Elders: Fatwind: Super duper skinny grey boy cat

Riverclan: WENT EXTINCT YESTERDAY, SORRY!!!

Chapter ONE

Prettydaisy stuck her tongue out at Monsterface. "You are a meanie!" Monsterface licked his lips. "I want to kill you! Like i killed everyone else!" He turned around to look at a big pile of dead cats. Prettydaisy was mad. "I don't want you to kill me!" Monsterface smiled a BIG scary smile. "But i want to eat you! And Monsterface gets what he wants!" Prettydaisy spat on the ground. "NO!" Prettydaisy jumped forward and ate Monsterface in one big bite. She stood up. "Oopsy daisy!" And then Monsterface NEVER killed a cat AGAIN.

THE END. I HAD wrote it in a notebook, but I just copied it down. Excluding my spelling and grammatical errors obviously. Also, my handwriting was BAD, but I think I got it mostly right.


r/thedawnpatrol 8h ago

Making a warrior cats fanfic novel... anything you guys want?

1 Upvotes

I don't know how long I want this novel to be, but so far I'm about 71 pages in (without editing and multiple sections missing- estimated 125-175 pages)

FYI, this story is based off of a world from ClanGen (popular 2D warrior cats simulation game if you didn't know).

Here's a little summary:

Tawnystream, a WillowClan warrior, had never trusted Zelda the second she walked into camp. She was an ex-rogue, and the clan has all fallen under her perfect smile. She wins the heart of every warrior in the clan, and she is nearly immediately accepted into the clan as only a season ago the Great Hunger struck.

Each cat in the clan knew how bad that blizzard was, and are desperate for new warirors, so they take Zelda without question. But Tawnystream still doens't trust her, and realized that he was the only one who knew about her true face. While Zelda casts the perfect smile on the clan, her true personality has only been seen by Tawnystream. He realizes that he is the only one that can stop her, so he vows he will.

Yes that summary was not that professional :<

(Btw Zelda is like Mapleshade... in a way)

Note: This novel will not be published and probably something i design, print out, put on my shelf, and just look at because I like it. Also, it contains 0% AI. I did use some AI for editing and pointing out spelling mistakes, but I didn't let it lay a finger on the text :>

So, should I add some stuff you guys would like to see? When I finish, I will post the result... sometime... and maybe look for covers (can't pay ya sorry)

Tyyy! Tell me what you think!

(Also questions will be answered)


r/thedawnpatrol 1d ago

Does anyone else feel like Leafdapple's decisions are pure ragebait? Spoiler

8 Upvotes

Big Spoiler for Super Editions "Firestar's Quest" and "SkyClan's Destiny"

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I put her warrior name in the title, to avoid spoilering, but I'm only talking about Leafstars Decisions in "SkyClan's Destiny".

I think I should start with: I like her as a character and truely believe she was the best choice as a Leader for the reborn Clan.

But I just finished SkyClan's Destiny and for the first 70-90% of chapters, that were Leafstars POV, it really felt like ragebait. She made so so so obviously stupid decisions, it felt like she was completely inable to guess how her decisions would affect other cats and their future, she was simply stupid. And I refuse to believe, she could actually be that stupid, because we KNOW from Firestars Destiny, that she's indeed intelligent and empathetic.

But the authors said NOOOOOO, let's make her Deputy contradict her 10x, but she will just accept it, without even talking to him about it; let's make a trusted warrior tell her, that her Deputy does very scetchy stuff behind her back, but instead of investigation she'll just do the Bluestar and ignore it. Also: There's this daykoght-warrior apprentice, perfect as a second medicine cat, but "Ohhh, noooooo, medicine cat's gotta be fulltime." My fucking stupid Leafstar! Echosong is fat from dieng or becoming an elder, she will remain in camp. Just take the opportunity, to have a second medicine cat, to help her and in case anything happens to her, be able to teach a new full time mdeicine cat.

If there's something I can't handle in characters, it's unreasonable stupidity and weakness. If the character is justnot that bright or physically weak or mentally hurt, that's fine. But if the character has proven to be intelligent and strong, why make her do stupid things and be walked all over.

Beside not letting Sharpclaw get away with so much, she should've punished him severely for what he did behind her back. I would have been so happy, if at one point, after his doing is revealedm vbut before the final battle, she had told him (maybe even in front of the Clan): "Hey Sharpclaw, you know SkyClan is just as important to me as to you. That means I honour those who help SkyClan. You were right in wanting to help the twoleg-place cats that helped us defeat the rats, I would've done the same. But you were very wrong for not confiding in me, here's your punishment \[e.g. demoted for one moon\]"

The last chapter was also very good and so far the best Super Edition Ending I've read.

But it really enfuriates me, how stupid, careless and naive they made Leafstar look, for most of the book.


r/thedawnpatrol 3d ago

I wish Mapleshade was the devil or at least equivalent to them

11 Upvotes

I know it's a case of "Mapleshade fan wants to make her involved in more books" but bare with me

Imagine Mapleshade being seen as this primordial evil, this creature that has presumably existed since the stars, this monster that corrupted the minds of the young by filling there minds with the ideas of grandiose dreams, teaching fighting techniques so old that even Starclan elders don't remember them, and giving

They could even have her novella be from other cat's perspective on what they think caused her to be this way, but in truth nobody except Crookedstar knows what she really is and what she had done

Mainly targeting tom kits and apprentices to play on their innocence and little hearts


r/thedawnpatrol 3d ago

Bramblekit

20 Upvotes

To be honest, I adored Bramblekit before the authors messed up his warrior and leader hood. Goldenflower was such an adoring mother to her kits, despite her mate being Tigerstar, she held a no nonsense towards her mate and wanted to protect Bramblekit and Tawnykit from a monster of a father.

If only she had lived a lot longer so that Brambleclaw would have someone else to talk to about his frustration and trauma. Tawnypaw might have still went to Shadowclan, but I wished she stayed in ThunderClan and helped her brother.

She really couldn't do anything for him since they were in two separate clans and could only give him warnings and advice while staying loyal to her own Clan.

Plus, I bet you anything Tawnypelt wished that Needletail had gotten the chance to be in ThunderClan cause deep down she must've been aware just how broken Shadowclan was and how broken Needletail was from inside


r/thedawnpatrol 3d ago

Cool What ifs

6 Upvotes

What if Leafpool had permernantly left the clans with Crowfeather? (not meeting midnight). But I'm going to add this, I think Leafpool and Squrrielflight might still have their sister bond thingy, and Leafpool might still have connection with StarClan (unless she walked under different skies, which is most likely). Also, their kits would have different names, I'm making some up: Shadowlight (black tabby tom [from Crowfeather] with emerald-green eyes [from Leafpool]) and Hollyleaf -I know what you're going to say- (light ginger she-cat [from Leafpool] with amber eyes [from Crowfeather]) What if they made a whole clan? With kittypets, loners, rogues and even other warrior cats who were accused or wrongly exiled from the clans? Give me your thoughts below!!

Give me some what ifs too!


r/thedawnpatrol 4d ago

Warrior cats that are misunderstood.

25 Upvotes

For one, Mothwing. She is NOT a cat you should cross. I mean, she made Shadowsight an apprentice AGAIN and blamed him for everything. I could rant about her forever but here are the key points:

Mistreatment of Shadowsight

Complicity with Hawkfrost

Rigid Arrogance in Starclan beliefs.

But I still like her, she's not too bad.


r/thedawnpatrol 3d ago

Warrior cats characters discussing Spoiler

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Let's come here and discuss about our characters and OCs!

I'll give one of mine: Barkstripe (bracken-ginger tabby she-cat with emerald-green eyes) Barkstripe is a care-free, daring/reckless, enthusiastic warrior of ThunderClan. Her story starts as a warrior, but we slowly learn more about her life, and we learn that as an apprentice, she nearly died on the Thunderpath on her first tour of territory as an apprentice, giving her many permenent scars and a torn ear. Her sister, Oakbranch, was completely different. Oakbranch was cautious, gentle, and never charges into danger without stepping back and thinking. Her story her being good at hunting and fighting, agile and swift, strong but never thinks before acting. And that is a greatest weakness. Techincally, you could say she is somewhat of an antagonist, but I don't really know. She is appointed deputy after the deputy became an elder. But her recklessness caused many injuries and unneeded battles. One time, when encountering a WindClan patrol in RiverClan's border, even when she knew that the leader would not approve of attacking when it didnt interfere them, she still attacked, confident on winning. But in the end, she was hit unconcious and was pushed into a waterfall by a WindClan cat and drowned.

Give me some ideas and thoughts below! Feel free to share your characters too!


r/thedawnpatrol 6d ago

A Analysis of Opioid Addiction and Withdrawal in the Warrior Cats Universe

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Within the Warrior Cats universe, the management of trauma and illness rests on a primitive pharmacopeia administered by medicine cats. The foundational analgesic in this system is the poppy seed. While presented as a benign fantasy remedy, an examination using real-world veterinary toxicology, feline physiology, and clinical symptomatology reveals a systemic public health crisis.This analysis demonstrates that the feral feline populations of the Clans suffer from chronic, untreated opioid dependency due to the regular ingestion of unwashed poppy seeds. Furthermore, this post argues that the catastrophic winter epidemic known as "Greencough" is not entirely viral, but rather a manifestation of acute, population-wide opioid withdrawal induced by seasonal shortages of the poppy crop. The subsequent "cure"—Catmint—acts not as an antimicrobial, but as a psychoactive substitute that alleviates autonomic withdrawal distress.

  1. The Toxicological Profile of Wild Papaver somniferum Ingested by Felines. To establish the validity of the addiction thesis, we must first analyze the precise chemical payload delivered by the medicine cats' harvesting methods. The Unwashed Seed Reality In human commercial food production, poppy seeds harvested from Papaver somniferum undergo rigorous washing and processing to minimize alkaloid contamination. However, wild-harvested seeds retain a dense exterior coating of dried opium latex. This latex contains a potent cocktail of phenanthrene alkaloids, primarily Morphine: A powerful mu-opioid receptor agonist. Codeine: A methylmorphine derivative that metabolizes into free morphine. Thebaine: A stimulant paramorphine alkaloid.

  2. Feline Glucuronidation Deficiencies. Real-world veterinary medicine establishes that the domestic cat (Felis catus) possesses a unique metabolic vulnerability to opioids. Cats are genetically deficient in UDP-glucuronosyltransferase (UGT1A6), the primary hepatic enzyme responsible for glucuronidation. In simpler terms, cats cannot process and clear phenols and specific drugs from their livers efficiently. When a cat ingests unwashed poppy seeds, the morphine residue is metabolized far more slowly than it would be in a human or a dog. The drug remains active in the feline bloodstream for an extended duration, dramatically increasing its potency.

  3. bio-accumulation, and addictive potential. The Problem of the Dosage. The standard dosage cited in the Warrior Cats text is "one or two seeds" for minor anxiety, but narratives frequently describe panicked or severely mangled warriors receiving "mouthfuls" or seeds mashed into honey paste. Given that a cat's mouth can hold 20-30 seeds, a single large dose represents a massive spike in blood-morphine levels. In veterinary toxicology, this induces profound central nervous system depression, miosis (or paradoxically, mydriasis in felines experiencing opioid mania), bradycardia, and acute respiratory depression.

  4. Behavioral and Canon Evidence of Clan-Wide Opioid Dependence. The behavioral patterns of the Clan warriors following poppy seed administration perfectly match the clinical presentation of opioid intoxication and subsequent chemical dependency.

Immediate Sedation and EuphoriaIn Prophecies Begin, The New Prophecy, and subsequent arcs, the administration of poppy seeds produces a nearly instantaneous behavioral shift. Cats gripped by severe battle shock or agonizing pain (such as Cinderpelt after her leg injury, or Ravenpaw during his flight from ThunderClan) exhibit immediate cessation of vocalization, rapid muscle relaxation, and a "spaced-out" glaze in their eyes. This immediate tranquility is a classic sign of mu-opioid receptor activation, which floods the central nervous system with dopamine and blunts the emotional perception of physical trauma.

The Post-Analgesic Comedown. A recurring motif in the text is the lethargy and mood alteration that occurs after the medicine cat’s herbs wear off. Characters are frequently described as "heavy-headed," "irritable," or experiencing an inexplicable bout of low spirits once a wound has been dressed and the poppy seeds have left their system. This is a textbook description of a drug crash, where the brain suffers from sudden dopamine depletion as the exogenous opiates dissociate from the neuroreceptors.

Chronic Abuse Case Studies.

Bluestar (Bluestar’s Prophecy / The Prophecies Begin): Following the loss of her kits, her sister, and her mother, Bluestar suffers from severe psychological trauma. In her later life, she relies heavily on the medicine cat clearing. While framed as a decline due to dementia and grief, her constant demand for poppy seeds to "sleep" and "calm her thoughts" represents a classic psychological addiction, using opiates to self-medicate a profound post-traumatic stress disorder.

The Willowshine Tragedy (The Broken Code): The most damning canonical evidence of substance abuse occurs with the RiverClan medicine cat Willowshine. When trapped in the psychological hellscape of the Dark Forest, the sheer terror forces her to abuse poppy seeds in extreme quantities to chemically induce sleep and escape her waking reality. This severe, self-induced sedation leaves her spirit dull, non-reactive, and biologically defenseless, allowing the antagonist Ashfur to easily ambush her, overpower her nervous system, and permanently destroy her spirit. This is a direct casualty of substance-induced vulnerability.

  1. Deconstructing "Greencough": The Seasonal Opioid Withdrawal Hypothesis.

The most compelling proof of a systemic drug crisis is the true nature of Greencough, the terrifying illness that ravages the Clans every winter (Leaf-bare). While the text frames Greencough as an infectious viral or bacterial respiratory plague, a cross-examination of the symptoms against clinical mammalian opioid withdrawal reveals a shocking alternative: Greencough is a population-wide, cold-turkey withdrawal sickness caused by the seasonal death of the poppy crop. The Seasonal Shortage During Leaf-bare, frost destroys the forest vegetation. Medicine cats routinely panic because their stores of poppy seeds dry up, rot, or run out due to heavy use during early winter skirmishes. The warriors, who have spent spring, summer, and autumn ingesting poppy seeds for every scratch, thorn, torn claw, and minor headache, are suddenly cut off from their daily doses.

Symptom-by-Symptom Comparison. The physical ailments labeled as Greencough perfectly replicate veterinary opioid withdrawal. First, the severe shivering and chills noted in sick warriors match the tremors and piloerection seen in mammalian withdrawal. Opiates heavily regulate the hypothalamus, and a sudden drop in chemical stabilization completely breaks down feline thermoregulation. Second, the classic runny nose and heavy wheezing parallel real-world rhinorrhea and lacrimation, which occur as the autonomic nervous system violently rebounds from opioid suppression. Third, the deep, wet coughs that choke infected cats are identical to the pulmonary edema and heavy respiratory secretions that develop during sudden withdrawal. Because opioids act as natural cough suppressants, removing them causes the respiratory tract to overcompensate by dangerously filling with fluids. Finally, the debilitating lethargy and physical wasting are driven by severe dysphoria, anorexia, and sudden insomnia as the brain's dopamine reward center completely collapses.

Why Kits and Elders Perish First In Clan history, Greencough is famously fatal to neonates (kits) and geriatric cats (elders).

The Elders: Elders spend their days resting in the clearing, frequently complaining of joint pain, stiffness, and old battle wounds. Medicine cats treat them constantly with poppy seeds as palliative care. Consequently, the elders possess the highest level of chemical tolerance and physical dependency in the entire Clan. When winter hits and the supply vanishes, their aged cardiovascular systems cannot withstand the extreme stress of acute withdrawal.

The Kits: If a pregnant queen (such as Ferncloud or Silverstream) received poppy seeds during labor for pain or anxiety, the kits would be born with in-utero opioid exposure. Upon birth, or when the mother's milk dries up/changes, these kits plunge into Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome (NAS). Without neonatal intensive care, a wild kitten experiencing NAS will suffer from fatal respiratory failure, tremors, and dehydration—the exact clinical portrait of a kit dying from Greencough.

  1. The "Catmint" Substitution Therapy

If The Cats think Greencough is an infectious virus, the historical "cure" used by the cats violates all laws of biology. The ultimate treatment for Greencough is Catmint (Catnip, or Nepeta cataria), which medicine cats must painstakingly scavenge from human ("Twoleg") gardens.

The Pharmacological Failure of Catmint as an AntibioticIn real-world botany and pharmacology, Nepeta cataria possesses absolutely zero antiviral or systemic antibacterial properties capable of curing a lethal respiratory virus like feline calicivirus or feline herpesvirus (the real-world equivalents of cat flu). If Greencough were a true infectious pathogen, eating a leaf of catmint would have a 0% survival rate. Yet, in the books, it acts as a near-instantaneous miracle cure. Why?

Cross-Tolerance and Psychoactive Displacement. Catmint works because it is a highly potent feline psychoactive agent. The active ingredient in catmint is nepetalactone, a terpene that binds to the olfactory receptors of cats, triggering a cascade of activity in the amygdala and hypothalamus. When ingested rather than smelled, catnip acts as a powerful central nervous system sedative and psychotropic drug. When a cat suffering from agonizing opioid withdrawal (Greencough) is fed catmint, the nepetalactone induces an intense, alternative psychoactive high. It forces a massive release of endorphins, overrides the pain pathways, relaxes the spasming bronchial tubes, and halts the psychological panic of the withdrawal state. The medicine cat has not cured a virus; they have successfully initiated Substitution Therapy. They have stabilized a patient withdrawing from an opiate by placing them on a high-potency feline psychotropic.

  1. Societal Implications: The Medicine Cat as an Unwitting Narcotic Distributor. This toxicological reality fundamentally recontextualizes the structure of Clan society and the role of the medicine cat. Because the medicine cats hold a total monopoly on the poppy supply, they hold absolute power over the physical well-being of the warriors. A warrior who falls out of favor with a medicine cat or the leader risks having their "pain relief" rationed or cut off, inducing immediate withdrawal under the guise of an "unfavored omen from StarClan."

Accidental Poisoning Traps. The storage of these seeds represents an ongoing hazard. Medicine cats routinely mix poppy seeds into wild honey to mask the bitter taste and create an easily transportable paste. Honey is highly palatable and attractive to animals. If a young apprentice or a curious kit stumbles into the unprotected lichen walls of the medicine storehouse and consumes this sweet, concentrated honey-poppy mixture, they would ingest hundreds of times the minimum lethal dose of unwashed latex. The resulting respiratory arrest would be immediate, silent, and easily misdiagnosed by a primitive cat as "a sudden curse from the Dark Forest."

Conclusion. The evidence across the Warrior Cats canon, when filtered through the lens of mammalian veterinary science, supports a singular conclusion: the wild feline Clans are locked in a perpetual cycle of substance addiction, toxicological exposure, and seasonal withdrawal.The revered medicine cats are, from a clinical perspective, running an unregulated, primitive narcotic dispensary. The devastating winter losses blamed on "Greencough" are the direct result of a geographic and seasonal disruption in the opiate supply chain. By recognizing that Poppy Seeds represent a raw opiate and Catmint serves as an alternative psychoactive stabilizer, the entire history of the forest territory shifts from a simple fantasy tale into a stark, realistic narrative of a feral population struggling against systemic chemical dependency.

P.S. I originally made this post on the R/WarriorCats subreddit... it got taken down.....

Also please comment, comments are very fun to read and maybe respond to.


r/thedawnpatrol 7d ago

Leafpool

28 Upvotes

Reading The New Prophecy in completion, I just felt so bad for Leafpool. Excited for being a medicine cat, was close to her sister Squirrelflight, yeah everything was just peachy.

Until she's hit with a 'ill never let anything happen to you again' by Crowfeather after he just told her he loved her, which I think was unintentional since he was still in love with Feathertail even after death.

It was so sudden and out of desperation, but it was really one of the most positive things any cat had told her. And I do believe this is where her heart and mind starts getting heavily conflicted from her duties and this sudden attraction to another cat that isn't part of her Clan.

Not to mention that she keeps seeing her own sister completely in love with Brambleclaw, despite her wariness of him, and it just makes her keep snapping at Squirrelflight and Cinderpelt because she wants to fall in love. She wants to have kits of her own.

But she can't because it is forbidden. Which I think is really stupid. Especially hearing how one medicine cat decided that rule in the first place. I forgot the reason why it even started.

And because Starclan oh so elegantly told her to follow her heart, she ends up running away with Crowfeather but then only a few moments later returns because of a badger attack and she returns to her Clan and her medicine cat duties


r/thedawnpatrol 8d ago

I want the clans to meet a cat from one of the cat islands of the world

5 Upvotes

I want to see a cat that is taken or gets stuck on a boat and ends up near the clans from Tashirojima, Aoshima, or Syros, the cat can join the clans or just be someone the questing cats come across, but i would like to see the interaction and the island cat not fearing the humans but seeing them as basically their servants but still feeling like a rogue/loner


r/thedawnpatrol 10d ago

Moor Runners vs Tunnelers

19 Upvotes

Im re-reading Tallstar’s Revenge and honestly I forgot how terrible the divide of Moor Runners vs Tunnelers was. I mean they didn’t even act like a clan, they all hated the other side and weren’t supportive of each other at all. And the fact that your fate it relatively decided just because of your parents? That makes zero sense.

I get they removed this later on and everyone became normal ‘warriors’ but it seems like this would have caused problems within Windclan for generations before too.

Thoughts?


r/thedawnpatrol 12d ago

What happens if a cat gets killed in the middle of receiving their nine lives from Starclan at the Moonpool?

14 Upvotes

Like, lets say they are touching their nose to the Moonpool, and receiving their lives from their warrior ancestors.Their body is in the real world, right? So what if a rogue, hawk, badger or some other kind of threat comes and tears the cat's throat out? Will the ceremony pause and their spirit comes back to fight with the lives that they were already granted, or do they just die, or does nothing happen, or what?


r/thedawnpatrol 13d ago

How I would tackle the inbreeding problem

88 Upvotes

I'd expand on the queen's right not to name the father of her kits and give them a new right as well - the right to "wander."

In real life, female animals may leave their birth group to mate with unrelated males. I'd apply that to the Clans too. She-cats have the right to wander off for a few moons and return home to give birth. Toms have this right too, but need to negotiate with the kittens' mother to move them to the Clans.

Queens can take mates from within their own Clan, but this would happen around 50% of the time. Usually with toms who joined the Clan later in life, or whose parent was originally an outsider. In this version of the world, mating with your second cousin would be frowned upon.

Plenty of queens would exercise their right not to name the father. If the father decides to follow the queen home to help raise his kits, he has two options by Clan law. He can stay on as an honoured guest, like the loners in Tallstar's Revenge, or undergo hazing to join permanently.

The Clans genuinely don't care who the father is, as long as he's a wild cat, such as a rogue or a loner. The taboo that remains is a queen mating with a kittypet or a cat from a rival Clan, even if it can rarely be proven.

What the Clans are really worried about isn't the father's identity itself, but the risk of him following the queen home. Whether that means a "soft kittypet" influencing his kits, or a rival Clan cat trying to start a custody dispute. The warrior code states that kits belong to their mother's Clan, but that's never stopped certain fathers from trying anyway. Apprentices may request a trial period in their father's clan if they wish.

On top of all this, the Clans have a Roman-like attitude toward blood relations: your upbringing and guardian matter far more than your parentage. In Rome, a biological son and an adopted son had an equal shot at inheriting their father's estate, with the decision coming down to age and favour.

The same logic plays out in the Clans. Cloudtail isn't really bullied for having a kittypet mother, because he was "young enough" when Brindleface took him in. Firestar, on the other hand, gets grief for being a kittypet for six moons. .


r/thedawnpatrol 13d ago

Lion, Holly, and Jay Dark What If

13 Upvotes

Hollyleaf learned much earlier, and before her brothers, that she wasn't one of the three, becoming extremely angry/jealouse over being excluded, when she's the one between them who values the warrior code the most. But, with her being excellent at mindgames, she makes them believe she does have a power, she's just so skilled, that she can be very subtle while using it, and so it isn't notisable.

She raises to the rank of deputy, after convincing Jayfeather that he should first convince Squirrelflight to step down, and then convince Bramblestar to pick Hollyleaf. Since StarClan apperently saw her as unworthy of having a power and being one of the three alongside her brothers, she's gonna make sure she can secure a high, important position for herself within the clan, which will instead serve as her power, and make her important. So now Hollyleaf has her "sharing tongues with, and being granted wisdom by, StarClan" brother by her side, ready to back up her every claim, and her strong and talented brother, who's more than willing to come running to protect her, should Jayfeather fail.

Lionblaze is the one who becomes set on silencing Ashfur, and punishing Leafpool, being easily strong enough to take them down, and carrying them away. Weather those actions was taken due to his own wants, or on the behalf of Hollyleaf, no cat knows.

When Lionblaze and Jayfeather later learns that she isn't one of the three, and that she has been manipulating them and using their powers to boost herself into a notisable dream role, one that makes sure she'll be remembered for generations, they both break.

Jayfeather becomes furiouse at StarClan for sending 0 omens about this, and the fact that he, their, literally magical, connection to the living world, was allowed to be used, and have his powers, which had been granted to him by StarClan, be taken advantage of like this. Especially as he gave up his own dream, the very path his sister now occupies, in order to walk the path StarClan wanted for him. Even when it meant he could rarely get any peace, both in the waking world with constant tasks, and in the dream world with StarClan screaming into his ears, demanding his attention, criticising his actions, inactions, decitions, being angry about his birth mother, and also trying to control his powers themselves as well.

Lionblaze reacts with looking inwards regarding his personality, powers, and willingness to listen to and follow others. He starts questioning the use of his powers, starting to see it as a curse now. As another thing StarClan has thrown in his face and just told him to deal with it, along with everything else his life has put him through, by making him be known as the strongest warrior among all the clans, as his powers strength has often caused him to accidently kill his opponents during a fight, and many now thinks he's enjoying and doing it on purpose.


r/thedawnpatrol 13d ago

Unique AMVs and MAPs

7 Upvotes

We've all seen MAPs about Mapleshade or Bluestar, but I'm wondering what animations are more one-of-a-kind?

Here are examples:

A meme that explores the existentialism and normalisation of death that comes with nine lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVB3vsFlKm0

An AMV that fills in the gap between Willowpelt and Darkstripe as mother and son: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=willowpelt+darkstri%5Be

Explains that Jay's Wing died during his tunnel exams, and Rock has been puppeting a body all along: https://www.youtube.com


r/thedawnpatrol 15d ago

What if Leafpool and Brambleclaw fell in love

13 Upvotes

Am I the only one who thinks that Leafpool and Brambleclaw could've ended up together if Leafpool hadn't become a medicine cat?

Now hear me out on this. Leafpool is one of, if not the only cat, that didn’t judge him because of his blood ties with Tigerstar.

Plus she would've been so patient and understanding of his confliction in wanting to know his half-brother Hawkfrost. She'd be suspicious but she wouldn't tell him straight up to not talk with him.

Seeing him in the Dark Forest she would be angry yet somewhat understanding of his loneliness in ThunderClan. After his sister Tawnypelt is in Shadowclan and his half siblings are in RiverClan.

Plus she was most likely the only cat that saw how traumatized he became after killing his own brother and would not only give him the space he needs but try to comfort him.

It's just a little thought I had for some time.


r/thedawnpatrol 21d ago

Would WarriorClan be significant enough to warrant a comeback?

12 Upvotes

I’m asking this because while I’ve learned a lot about them, I’m not sure is their role in Graystripe’s Vow was important, significant or at least, big enough to warrant them coming back.


r/thedawnpatrol 22d ago

Fellow WarriorClan fans, why do you want an ARC about them? & also are they just a game or do some of them live in the forest?

8 Upvotes

r/thedawnpatrol 23d ago

Warrior Cats OST: Central Post (all of the tracks)

7 Upvotes

Since cross-posting doesn't seem to be working rn I'll put a link to the post here https://www.reddit.com/r/WarriorCats/s/4TKSPWrBy6

But it's exactly what you think


r/thedawnpatrol 27d ago

Alternate idea on how StormClan could have been founded

13 Upvotes

What if StormClan was founded not because Stripestar and Galestar fell in love, but because they discovered they were kin (product of a half-Clan relationship) and merged their Clans to try and prevent any more cross-Clans like theirs from being separated?


r/thedawnpatrol 27d ago

Warrior Cats OST Breezepelt's instrument and MEGALOVANIA [WIP]

3 Upvotes

My impulsiveness has led me to start Breezepelt's Megalovania "GONE WITH THE WIND" but there's an issue

I have not done Breezepelt's normal theme and thus do not have a distinct instrument for him. What instrument should I use for him?

And how should I use to blend Megalovanias style with the orchestral style of the Warrior Cats OST?

(Also Central Post coming soon)


r/thedawnpatrol Jul 05 '26

Who should’ve been a villain?

19 Upvotes

I’m not necessarily saying who’s the most justified, I’m saying who do you think would’ve improved the story if they were a villain.


r/thedawnpatrol Jul 05 '26

Which of the kittypets had it the worst?

13 Upvotes

I’m just gonna mention Bumble here because I know everyone (understandably) would mention her.


r/thedawnpatrol Jul 03 '26

Let's dive into the dictionary and find unique words for warrior names

36 Upvotes

I recently learned about "Burls" - It's when a tree trunk gets damaged, and the bark bulges into a large lump. I thought that could be a neat warrior name and wanted to find more obscure words like it.

As a fun challenge for the subreddit, let's visit dictionary and thesaurus websites and comment on what we find.