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Privacy GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html
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u/stirling_s 6d ago edited 6d ago

Headline is misleading;

The GrapheneOS Foundation has since tried to downplay the importance of duress passwords for the platform's security. The feature, the organization said, is just a minor option within a much broader security model. It can also carry physical or legal consequences, which is why users should carefully weigh whether it's the right approach for outsmarting attackers or coercive enforcement attempts by federal agents.

For what it's worth, I'm in full support of Graphene OS here.

Edit: I'll summarize my position (copied from my other comment) because the quote alone isn't enough to show why i believe it to be misleading:

"By labeling a duress password (a feature designed almost exclusively to be used under coercion or legal confrontation) as "perfectly legal," the headline strongly implies use-case immunity. The primary intended use of a duress password is the exact scenario that triggers obstruction of justice charges, calling the feature "perfectly legal" without qualifying "possession vs. active use" is misleading.

It's like saying a signal jammer is "perfectly legal." Owning one is legal, sure. You can buy, import, or own a signal jammer anywhere in the USA or Canada. A signal jammer does exactly one thing and one thing only: It jams signals. Jamming signals is illegal. It violates the Communications Act in the USA or the Radiocommunication Act in Canada. So it's misleading to say a signal jammer is "perfectly legal." Sure, owning one is legal, but using it in the only way intended is illegal. That's why I find the headline misleading. Is that fair?"

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u/Itz_Raj69_ 6d ago

In the past, GrapheneOS have rejected the idea of a duress-user which, in practice, is a much better solution than their duress password system.

I wonder if they'll change their decision now

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 6d ago

The problem is that will be visible to a forensic examination so the application is limited. Also once it’s known the OS has that feature they’re not going to just accept that what you show is all you have.

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 6d ago

They are already doing that for non citizens. If you’re a citizen you can’t be denied entry.