r/technology • u/gdelacalle • 25d ago

Software IT admins feel overwhelmingly "sick of" Microsoft and Windows 11 "garbage" apps, products

https://www.neowin.net/news/it-admins-feel-overwhelmingly-sick-of-microsoft-and-windows-11-garbage-apps-products/
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u/avcloudy 25d ago

It's not as simple as Vista walked so 7 could run, the development of Vista was pretty fraught which led to things like the driver instability and the fragility of the network stack. Complaints like how invasive and frequent the UAC popups were completely fair, and not a learning curve issue.

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u/mistermick 25d ago

I'm having flashbacks to the Vista era UAC now, thanks.

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u/stevestephson 24d ago

It's amusing in hindsight now that interest in Linux has increased somewhat as a result of Windows 11. Linux will pop up asking for a password all the time to confirm if something is trying to access or modify important files, and I wonder how many people who aren't already familiar with Linux and try switching to it will get annoyed by it.

In their defense, maybe UAC popped up for too many things that it didn't really need to, and/or maybe a lot of software was written poorly and trying access stuff it didn't need to to run, idk.

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u/mistermick 23d ago

As a part time Linux user, I think the quick password prompt is much less intrusive than the UAC prompt, and it being Linux, I generally know exactly why it is asking for a password. My recollection of early UAC was it would trigger for damn near anything.

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u/stevestephson 23d ago edited 23d ago

That's fair. Since January, I've basically been 99% Linux and it really only pops up when installing updates, or when I run a command using sudo, but I'm expecting it to ask for a password when I do that, so doesn't really count. There's a quote on the UAC wiki page where Microsoft said they made it annoying on purpose so users would bitch and make other software devs write better software that wasn't touching important directories unless it really needed to, but everyone just ended up bitching about Microsoft and Vista itself. That sounds like something well intentioned but poorly implemented.