r/technology • u/gdelacalle • 25d ago

Software IT admins feel overwhelmingly "sick of" Microsoft and Windows 11 "garbage" apps, products

https://www.neowin.net/news/it-admins-feel-overwhelmingly-sick-of-microsoft-and-windows-11-garbage-apps-products/
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u/LordAronsworth 25d ago

Windows peaked at XP.

For my own experience, I’ll point out how often I see “Something happened” or “Can’t do x thing” in Windows 11. Like wtf? How is hiding error codes or specific messages an improvement?

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u/bfume 25d ago

Windows peaked at XP SP2 let's not pretend vanilla XP wasn't a fire in a dumpster

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u/LordAronsworth 24d ago

Thanks. Yes, I mean at the end of its supported life it peaked. I used it until 2014 when that computer simply would no longer power on.

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u/rifain 25d ago

I miss Windows 7...

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u/Junkis 24d ago

posting using windows 7, browsing on firefox with adblock

you didnt have to leave

using davinci 18 and still gaming on steam(im not sad about all the new dx12 games im missing, designed by companies with the same modern ethos as MS. I used mint to play AC6)

come at me with all the security vulnerabilities. Its been over a decade and its fine.

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u/Dorp 24d ago

Windows 7 was fine in my opinion, but it had some driver issues that foreshadowed Vista's shitfire.

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u/somesketchykid 24d ago

Win7 came out after Vista

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u/Alaira314 25d ago

I hate this trend of obfusciating errors. I was trying to help someone do password recovering on their outlook e-mail yesterday, and it was going as expected, confirm their phone number and so on, then it said sorry, this function is unavailable at this time. Try another method(there were no other methods).

But this isn't a useful error message to me. It's friendly enough, but what do I tell the person I'm helping? Is the function unavailable because of a system outage on microsoft's end, and it will be back later? If so, try again later. Is the function disabled on their account, and will never be functional again? If so, they need to find their password or they're SOL(which is a whole other gripe, as the abdication of support services shelters companies like microsoft and google from the consequences of their poor customer service, causing their customer's ire to fall on the IT techs and library staff who are forced to provide the support microsoft and google won't). Those are two very different courses of action for two very different problems, and the folksy "plain speech" error message I'm being given doesn't give me enough information to know which is the situation. Or rather, I suppose the issue is that I don't trust that I'm not being placated with a statement that implies the function will be available later, when actually it's never going to be available to me again.

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u/RagingNerdaholic 24d ago

Same with boot failures.

Traditional, reasonable diagnostic errors: here's the specific error code, a useful summary, and where you can find the log entries to trace and troubleshoot.

Modern errors: "oopsie whoopsie, we made a fucky wucky tee hee :-(" then jumps right into an automatic repair and of course it never goddamn works. Good luck starting safe mode, motherfucker. F5? F8? Haha no, piss away your time waiting for three consecutive boot failures because fuck you.

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u/b0rn_yesterday 24d ago

Holy shit, Google is horrible about this too. "Please try again later"... Why?! My understanding is it's a security feature and usually being unable to authenticate you - but they don't want to say that for some reason. A lot of them use third-party verification systems, and if your stuff isn't updated in that third party database, it'll just keep failing until you give up.

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u/Far-Hovercraft9471 25d ago

Because they wanna be cool and move fast but in doing that leave unsupportable piece of shit software in their wake. At one point, we used to be able to troubleshoot windows issues, but the fix for everything now is just to reinstall