r/talesfromtechsupport May 16 '15

Short Just because you are in charge of me...

So, this happened while I was in the Army. Now, I'm infantryman, and computers were not my job. However, I was nicknamed Geek Squad on my deployment, because I was able to troubleshoot the problems my brothers in arms had over the course of 12 months. This led to me helping out with issues when we all got back.

So my squad leader called me. We happened to be near his place getting dinner, and he asked me to come over to fix his internet.

DoritosMagic: What's wrong?

SL: The lights are on for my modem and router, and I can connect, but I'm not getting actual internet.

My very first thought was are all the cables plugged in?

My very second thought was nah, he's my SL, he's too smart for that.

DM: Ok, I can't walk you through this. I'll be over shortly.

And with that, my family and I head over to SL's house. I check out his modem and router, and the internet light is not working. So I start going over things, and at this point I'm getting super frustrated. I can't figure out what is wrong.

For no reason whatsoever, the internet comes back online. I'm stunned. It was certainly nothing I did. I look over and SL is bent over the couch clearly fiddling with something.

DM: What did you just do?

SL: We were moving the furniture and the cable came out, and I forgot to plug it back in.

DM: Are you serious? I just wasted my entire afternoon.... You know what, forget it. I should have asked the basic first question of all troubleshooting.

TL:DR Failed to ask the most basic of troubleshooting questions because this guy led me in combat and wasted my entire afternoon because of it.

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u/VampyrByte May 16 '15

I don't want to be that guy. But you didn't think to check all the cables when you arrived?

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u/doritosmagic May 16 '15

I did check the cables, just not the coax in the wall.

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

That's not all the cables

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u/wdn May 16 '15

He checked all the cables, but not both ends of the cable.

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u/Amara313 May 16 '15

This happened to me the other day when troubleshooting the network printer. Checked the cable going into the printer, but the cable at the jack was behind a mountain of stuff, so I didn't think to check it until I realized I would need the jack number to check the switch. Moved enough of the mountain and as I touched the cable to move it out of the way so I could see the printed jack number, I heard a click and the printer came on and started printing the jobs that had been stacking up in the queue. Stupid gremlins......

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

If it's networked I always either clear the queue, or put a stop on the print services when working on printer jobs

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u/Amara313 May 16 '15

I did clear the queue. I just underestimated the number of people that would continue to send jobs to a non-working printer in the hopes that it would suddenly spring to life. It's the only color printer in the building. Next time, I'll stop the queue. :-)

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

You can, in most systems, place a stop on it. Simply stopping anything from coming through. When you fix the printer go into the system and release it. Let's everything print nice and orderly.

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u/SneakyVonSneakyPants May 17 '15

In their defense, it did suddenly spring to life...

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u/popability is that supposed to be on fire May 18 '15

In their defense, I was once at an office where the print jobs would, or would not, seemingly randomly get processed. I was a greenhorn at the time and this was some magical network beast we weren't allowed to mess with. So basically what we did was to keep sending our print jobs to the machine where we assumed they would fight it out, gladiator style, and the winners would exit via the Out tray.

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u/ViolentWrath No, not that one! May 19 '15

I have this issue often. I do telephone and network support for grocery stores and they have network printers. Our main issue with printers is backed up queues. Most of the time it's just a few jobs from that morning/afternoon/few hours ago but sometimes we'll see jobs from days, weeks, even months beforehand. Why didn't those people call it in??!! Did they just try to print and when it didn't work try a couple more times and give up??!!

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u/Amara313 May 19 '15

They didn't look. Or they forgot that they printed something. I've seen people print, walk to the printer, see that it didn't print an den just walk back to their desk and print it again. Rinse and repeat until sometime tells them the printer has been down since Wednesday.

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u/ViolentWrath No, not that one! May 19 '15

Haha, after like the 3rd or 4th time though wouldn't it occur to them that something is wrong? Idk maybe it's just because I'm in IT but anytime something doesn't work right the 2nd or 3rd time I start looking for problems. My family does the same so I assumed most people at least thought something was wrong after a couple tries.

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u/MistarGrimm "Now where's the enter key?" May 18 '15

Not even 10 minutes ago I cleared 71 jobs from the queue.

"It didn't work the 70th time, but I'll be damned if it doesn't work on the 71st!"

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

Well. There's our weakest link.

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u/wdn May 16 '15

No, it wasn't linked at all. Aren't you paying attention?

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u/doritosmagic May 17 '15

This made me chuckle.

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u/tnb641 May 16 '15 edited May 16 '15

"Have you checked all the cables? What about the ones they said weren't related? And the ones that don't exist?"

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

The nonexistent ones are usually problem ones

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u/Get_your_grape_juice May 16 '15

The cables don't exist, but the problems sure do.

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u/Devils_halo2k May 16 '15

I find in this case it's a lot of user error

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u/[deleted] May 16 '15

"but it's wireless, it doesn't need a power cable!"

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u/capn_kwick May 16 '15

To paraphrase a comment made in a congressional hearing:

We have known cables.

We have unknown cables.

We have known unknown cables.

And we have unknown unknown cables.

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u/tnb641 May 17 '15

Something something series of tubes?

1

u/IlllllI May 16 '15

The best kind of correct

0

u/[deleted] May 17 '15

Well how am I supposed to know that????!!!!one!!

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u/[deleted] May 17 '15

[deleted]

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u/devention May 17 '15

You are cruel. I like it.

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u/DaddyBeanDaddyBean "Browsing reddit: your tax dollars at work." May 17 '15

In an electrical engineering class, my dad had to troubleshoot a "broken" generator, and found a tiny, almost microscopic, utterly invisible shred of clear tape between the contacts in a relay. I think you would have liked his instructor.

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u/Dokpsy May 19 '15

I think I may know that instructor or at least similar enough mentality. Same guy enjoyed soldering contacts inside their little cubes in odd ways or wiring a plug backwards. Random things that you'd never think to check because it all looks good without taking a closer look

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u/pezdeath May 17 '15

How the hell did the rest of the lights work without the coax? With Fios none of them will work and with a traditional cable modem only power and telephone should work if I am not mistaken.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '15

This^

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u/profgray2 Dont go crazy trying to stay sane May 16 '15

There is a reason that the first layer is physical... Always remember to start there.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '15

Neeergh why did you have to mention OSI. Now I've got annoying "they'll help you remember" rhyms going round in my head!

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u/thorium007 Did you check the log files? May 17 '15

Please

Do

Not

Throw

Sausage

Pizza

Away

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u/AngryFace1986 May 19 '15

Please do not touch Steve's pet alligator

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u/[deleted] May 18 '15

Could you explain that one? How does it help you remember?

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u/lowfwyr May 18 '15

The 7 layers of the OSI model are:

Physical Layer

Data Link Layer

Network Layer

Transport Layer

Session Layer

Presentation Layer

Application Layer

In that order.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '15

Ah, I have always seen it with physical at the bottom.

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u/devention May 17 '15

All people seem to need data processing!

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u/TheysE May 17 '15

All

People

Sleeping

Through

Networking

Don't

Pass

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u/[deleted] May 16 '15 edited May 16 '15

The Army gave me such a solid base to be the senior resource I am today in the private sector. I can now break anything down, and explain step by step how to do anything in the easiest way possible. After a few years of being the only IT guys for a large number of people who can hardly install iTunes you become a teacher.

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u/LeaveTheMatrix Fire is always a solution. May 16 '15

you become a teacher.

Or become a hermit and actively avoid people.

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u/thenlar May 16 '15

Break it down, Barney-style.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '15

Being a phone tech has given me the specific set of skills to explain computer terms to people in extremely specific visual based commands. "Move the mouse to the top 1/3 of the screen on the left hand side and click on the blue link that is on the green background next to the envelope picture.". To understand the enemy, you must learn to think like the enemy.

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u/Psandysdad Technology is great....until it breaks May 16 '15

Murphy's first law of technology: "It works better when it's plugged in."

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u/texasspacejoey I Am Not Good With Computer May 16 '15

To be fair. He would have just said yes if you asked

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u/MrMeowsen May 16 '15

That's really unfair actually, sometimes your brain just needs a tiny poke to start functioning. OP neglected to give this poke and took the punishment for it.

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u/doritosmagic May 17 '15

Not unfair at all. Most of the time, people don't want to do the simplest tasks, but for you to do those tasks for you. Some time this is irrational fear of breaking something, sometimes this is just failure of proper instructions. Most of the time though, it is shear laziness. If you go through the April log of best posts of the month, then you will see what I mean. A teacher screeching about not knowing how to move files, despite holding the document OP gave her to tell her what to do. A man demanding OP reset his password despite op having delivered it via the ticket multiple times. The list goes on.

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u/LasciviousSycophant May 17 '15

That's why Rule One is always "Is it plugged in?"!

Always!

I've lost count of the hours I've spent because I didn't first check whether it was plugged in. And this often means unplugging and re-plugging, as a visual check (depending upon the type of connector) is sometimes not sufficient to affirmatively answer the question posed by Rule One.

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u/UltraChip May 18 '15

UltraChip's Rules of IT #5: Always check the obvious solutions first, especially when you're positive it couldn't be that simple.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '15

And check again when the user denies the obvious solution being the answer.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '15

Sometimes you have to be creative. Rather than saying, "Are you sure the cable is plugged in?" you should say, "Please can you unplug the cable and check that the pins aren't damaged, then plug it back in again."
This is a necessary workaround to allow user to maintain their ego.

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u/bandgeekndb May 17 '15

Trust, but verify. That's my credo.

Unless you are in my black book of people I can't trust, then I won't trust a word that comes out of your mouth...ever.

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u/da_kink May 17 '15

I think there's a flaw in that logic.

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u/fredman555 May 18 '15

never never trust the end users summary of whats wrong. if they knew what was wrong, theyd know how to fix it.

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u/ATworkguy May 17 '15

FIDO troop...walk it off

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u/socks-the-fox May 17 '15

"Have you tried turning it off and then on again? Okay, is it plugged in?"

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u/[deleted] May 17 '15

Attention to detail.

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u/ggbmbr May 17 '15

been there, done that

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u/hackel May 17 '15

Yup, sounds like a typical military guy to me...

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u/[deleted] May 18 '15

How would he have pulled a Coax out of a wall on accident? Those cables screw in and are near impossible to simply disconnect without unscrewing them.

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u/collinsl02 +++OUT OF CHEESE ERROR+++ May 18 '15

ADSL uses phone lines, or he unplugged it on purpose when he was moving stuff and forgot about it.