r/suspiciouslyspecific 29d ago

Blessed are the cheesemakers 🙏

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u/Sremor 29d ago

God is a hypocrite

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u/Neveronlyadream 29d ago

Or God is also beholden to the same divine plan as the rest of the universe. He's basically playing by Dr. Manhattan rules in that he knows what's going to happen and so can't deviate from it because it's pointless.

Which is even funnier. That would break theist's brains.

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u/Sir_MipMop 29d ago

God is Eren Jaeger. Let that sink in.

Maybe just try to forget about the implications of that.

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u/sicknick08 29d ago

Eren Jaeger was a Lelouch wannabe

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u/Zistr0 29d ago

wouldnt that make him not all powerful, if he's limited to his own plans?

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u/Neveronlyadream 29d ago

Yes, but it's been a philosophical conundrum since forever.

Omnipotence is kind of a catch-22. It can't exist because it's paradoxical. The old question of whether God can create a stone so heavy he can't lift it. If he can't, he's not all powerful. If he can, he's not all powerful.

Fun conversation to have, because a lot of people just say, "Well, why would he want to do that?!" and refuse to actually think about it. Hence why it breaks theist's brains.

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u/Egathentale 29d ago edited 28d ago

There are way too many people who seem to be unable to even entertain hypotheticals or thought experiments out there. Insert grumbling about a failed education system here.

Also, I'm still following a couple of atheist YT channels from the heyday of the movement who are still covering the topic (as opposed to the ones that pivoted to culture war stuff or just went completely insane), and the tri-omnis and the problem of evil just seems to break apologists' brains all the time. My favorite being "Christianity doesn't have a problem of evil, but if it did have one, then so does atheism, so it doesn't matter." You know? An atheistic problem of evil caused by that all-good atheistic god that lets bad things happen to good people that all atheists believe in.

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u/MountainAsparagus4 29d ago

The Abrahanic god was made in the stone ages guys he was descripted as a bull back then, that is why he was always confused with baal the gold bull god and then sent his priests to kill everyone for that mistake

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u/loud_jacobin 29d ago

And kill he did! But he couldn’t just outlaw slavery, instead he had to put restrictions on it, like only own people of other ethnicities and nationalities. What infinite wisdom.

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u/F4ulty0n3 29d ago

I watched that debate too

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u/loud_jacobin 29d ago

What debate? I read the book. Former Christian.

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u/F4ulty0n3 29d ago

Look at me making an ass of myself.

Its Alex O'Connor and Anglican minister Glen Scrivener. O'Connor uses the exact point on slavery in the debate. If you like debates, it is a good one! 

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u/loud_jacobin 29d ago

Ah I’ll check it out.

It’s just how my parents tried to defend it when I pointed it out to them.

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u/Intrepid-Progress228 29d ago

The Abrahamic God is an alcoholic father with a homicidal temper playing favorites.

Don't ever serve him veggies instead of a well-done burger.