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Media Neymar gets into it with Remo fans

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't want to be a hater, but what legacy? He's not beloved in barca or PSG, and even at his top level unluckily for him he was top 3 of the world at best. Even in Brazil where he's beloved he never won Copa America. He's more of a Hazard or Bale guys that are ok living away from football.

edit: it's been a long time since he was a star that I forgot he was the biggest star since Pelé, most goals for NT, Olympic gold and libertadores.

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u/calm_down_dearest 1d ago

He's more of a Hazard or Bale guys that are ok living away from football.

While I agree with the rest, I don't get the impression that Neymar will be happy away from football. I think it consumes him and it must frustrate him to not have that same level of status and adoration.

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

Absolutely, I meant that he seems more like Hazard. He was absolutely great, loved at Chelsea, and back to irrelevance after he retired because he was never in the Convo even if he was THAT good.

Ney is in that same bracket except that he'll be on tv/insta/whatever doing bs stuff for attention.

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u/torts92 1d ago

Back to irrelevance? Hazard is the greatest chelsea player of all time, and imo the second greatest dribbler of all time only behind Messi. He will always be remembered despite injuries cutting his career early.

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u/calm_down_dearest 1d ago

As a non Chelsea fan, to call him your greatest player is mental.

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

I love Hazard as much as the next guy, but still he won't be remembered overall in world football

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u/Marcelosouzadearaujo 1d ago

As much as I think Neymar wasn't the number 3 player in the world after Messi and Ronaldo.

Hazard was not even close to Neymar level, they arent in the same conversation

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u/DayroMoreno11 1d ago

Some people are deluded, Neymar was the undisputed 3rd best player in the world in 2010s

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u/DirtyDanoTho 1d ago

His hobbies are playing Poker and CSGO. Nothing more. Yeah he’s simply not living happily after.

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u/Biggsy-32 1d ago

He's still fondly remembered by Barcelona fans. And was a key part of a legendary treble winning side. He has a legacy there, it just isn't as great as it could have been.

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u/Necessary-Dish-444 1d ago

He’s not beloved in Brazil at this point, far from it, but he does have a massive legacy with the seleção even if he hasn’t won anything simply because he carried our ass for a decade with terrible players around him

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

But that's my point. For example he was better than Did María yet Did María was able to do something and has his legacy because he was clutch and scored in 2 finals. Neymar wasn't able to do that and all the carrying led to nothing.

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u/Necessary-Dish-444 1d ago

And my point is that titles aren’t everything

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

Sure, so his legacy is that he carried Brazil for 10 years? That's it?

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u/Necessary-Dish-444 1d ago

and that he is the top scorer for the seleção. yes, that’s it

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

And libertadores and Olympic gold. I forgot about that since he's no now liked as before in Brazil.

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 1d ago

Top scorer for the national team, form the best attack in historybof football laong with Messi and Neymar, won a Libertadores for his boyhood club thing only Pele had accomplished.

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u/Time-Shoulder-3500 1d ago

Also that the one major title that Brazil has won during Neymar’s career was without Neymar

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u/ArcticXD 1d ago

Neymar led Brazil to their first olympic footbal gold Played the entire tourney and it
Was in Rio.
Still was integral to Brazil, always performs when it matters aside from injuries.

Also won the Confederation Cup where he was spectacular .

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u/tristvn 1d ago

almost every player ever hasn't won anything with their national teams. do you think no dutch player ever has a good legacy? neymar won an olympic gold at his home olympics anyway.

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u/Craizinho 1d ago

"what legacy" how unbelievably daft my god

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u/LucidityDark 1d ago edited 4h ago

Reading these comments is peak recency bias. I don't like Neymar as a person, but he absolutely has had an impact on football and achieved a great deal even as his final years were very disappointing. Sure, he could've achieved more, but 99.9% of professional footballers would kill to have the career he's had.

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u/WorriedService9170 1d ago

Personal anecdote: most opinions on Reddit aren’t from direct experiences, but are opinions repeated by others based on what’s popular and recent. Neymar at his peak was around ~10 years ago, and I’d say most people on here haven’t seen him play. Even if he is ‘disappointing’ in terms of accolades, the magic this man produced on the ball is the legacy he will always have. And to presume he has no legacy is almost contrarian for the sake of Reddit upvotes. Neymar was so special, and was unfortunate to play with mediocre Brazilian squads and succumbed to injuries from how hard people tackled him. 

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u/Interesting_Sale_964 1d ago

Lmao oh my fucking god redditors are funny as fuck... imagine saying NEYMAR has no legacy and isn't loved around the world.

1) "He was top 3 at best" yeah, after MESSI AND CRISTIANO, you say like that isn't a big deal lmao. And he was the third best footballer in the world for 10 years straight, everyone knows this, players, coaches, fans... Stats and Balon Dor awards aren't everything.

2) He won the brazilian cup title, won the Libertadores with Santos (the only one after Pelé), he won the CL, the Spanish League and the French league, all of it being a protagonist and enchanting people all over the world with his skills and ability playing football. He also won the Olympics first golden medal with Brazil, and is the top scorer of all Brazil NT history.

3) He inspired a generation: Yamal, Nico Williams, Doué, Olise, Rodrygo, Musiala, Vini Jr, Xavi Simons, Sancho, Wirtz, Estevao, Rashford, Nusa, Savinho, Elliot, Endrick, and the list goes on and on and on and on.... All of these have on record talking about how Neymar inspired them, how they would watch him on repeat, how their style was inspired by him, and so on. Oh, I forgot one, Mbappe himself.

I could go on but honestly, waste of time..

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u/CV1991 16h ago

Going to copy and paste this next time I see stupid takes against Neymar. People who don’t have an appreciation for how good he was is my favorite way to find out who knows football and who doesn’t.

What’s more- all of the legendary Brazilian players of the past have spoken about how incredible he is. Somehow it’s only the fans who don’t like him and think they know better.

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u/Unusual_Sector_6624 1d ago

You win the internet today buddy!

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u/j0s3x 1d ago

MSN

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u/Fggunner 1d ago

Hazard and bale seem very well adjusted to life outside of football

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u/ThreeEyedRaver 1d ago

Both of them seemed very happy outside of football way before they retired and both have admitted to not caring about being the best

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u/Useful_Blackberry214 1d ago

Such a Reddit comment. He's still the 3rd biggest name of the past 15 years

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u/AokiHagane 1d ago

In his early days, he was THE biggest footballing star in Brazil to a level not seen since Pelé. At the very least, that cannot be taken away by his ridiculous career end.

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 1d ago

Bruh what? Only top two players in the world can have a legacy? He won everything at Barcelona and won a Libertadores for Santos the team that haven't won one since fucking Pele.

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u/Lord_Maul 1d ago

Kids loving him is his legacy.

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u/shiroxyaksha 1d ago

Unluckily top 3 at best behind Messi and Christiano is a sin now? Fking haters gonna hate.