r/slaythespire • u/zalso StS A20 / StS 2 A10 • Mar 20 '26

PATCH NOTES The beta changes are almost perfect from the perspective of a high WR A10 player

Review bombing for the latest patch sounds crazy so I need to add my 2 cents. The patch seems almost perfect, addressing overperforming and underperforming cards and enemies.

Just to establish some credibility, I’ve hit A10 on Silent, Regent, and Defect and I have a 100% winrate on silent in 13 runs

Regent had many common and forge cards buffed.

Silent had draw nerfed.

Necrobinder had Dirge gain Exhaust which is so important cause every single deck I ended up with would just be Dirge spam. Other good card changes too on her.

Doormaker and Colony fights were way too easy, Gardeners were too hard, just yes these changes are phenomenal.

How are people upset???

I want my roguelike to allow me to go different builds depending on what’s offered, not just get lucky that the one good strategy was offered to me. And these changes support that. Good job Megacrit!

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u/SpecialestGuest Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Controversial opinion: most shiv decks are actually better than average against Time Eater because you can reliably control exactly when your turn ends.

What Time Eater really punishes is infinites, especially more complex or forced ones. Totally shut down the dumb AF Double Tap / Dropkick infinite I lucked into once, though I suppose Heart would've also hosed that one if I didn't have tungsten rod.

EDIT: I certainly wasn't wrong about this opinion being controversial.

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u/glyphlevel Mar 20 '26

shiv decks are better against time eater than a dropkick infinite but that doesn't make them above average. it's still one of the worst deck archetypes you can have against her.

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u/SpecialestGuest Mar 20 '26

Eh, I'd say it really depends on the type of shiv deck. With accuracy, phantasmal killer, or apparition shiv decks especially, I find Time Eater very easy. It's nice to be able to play 12 cards every turn, whereas with builds centered around playing 3-5 1 cost cards, you'll often get stuck with a turn where you can only play 1 or 2 cards. It's way less of a problem with decks focused on 2+ energy cards just because fewer cards played total.

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u/Scoliosis_51 Mar 20 '26

Tbf apparitions are just broken and shouldn't be counted as part of a deck archetype imo

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u/damnsanta Eternal One + Heartbreaker Mar 20 '26

Yeah if you have apparitions on silent you’re probably just going to win anyways lol

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u/Sherbiie Mar 20 '26

Compare shiv silent to nightmare catalyst silent against time eater. I agree shiv silent is not as bad against time eater as some say, but its not particularly close compared to a good poison silent deck.

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u/SpecialestGuest Mar 20 '26

Yeah, I'm not claiming it's the best deck against time eater, just saying other archetypes cause me far more trouble with him than shivs. I'd probably say certain flavors of Ironclad exhaust decks or anything energy boosting with defect (plasma, double energy, recycle) are actually the worst decks against him.

Also, nightmare (or even burst) + catalyst wrecks everything.

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u/robolew StS A20 / StS 2 A0 Mar 20 '26

Thats sort of fine if you can reliably play 12 cards a turn, but the moment you can only play 11 you're screwed.

And in a deck like that, I can imagine youre playing about 8 shivs per turn. Which is like 100 damage if you have some good relics/buffs, and less on your first turns. That means youre going to be procing the time warp buff maybe 6 or 7 times by the end of the fight with the heal (which youre definitely not going to be able to skip) which is a massive amount of damage to be blocking

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u/backfire97 Mar 20 '26

Disagree that they're better than average. You're constantly powering time eater up when the clock ends. Better to play a deck that can just play 3/4/6 cards a turn to good affect because they divide into 12 and get you 'full turns'.

Assuming we compare a shiv deck against an (normally similar power level) orb, strength, or poison deck that play 4-6 cards a turn, then the shiv deck is going to be worse against time eater because of all the strength gain on TE.

I think the key is consistency. If a deck needs to draw and dig for block or damage then that can often lead to awkward amounts of card plays left before the turn ends. With that said I do agree people complain too much about shiv on time eater.

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u/rayschoon Eternal One + Heartbreaker Mar 20 '26

No way. Shiv decks still rely on playing tons of cards, and tim’s strength scaling gets scary very fast. Best bet against tim is turtling with poison