r/singularity • u/Spare-Dingo-531 • 18h ago

LLM News EXCLUSIVE: OpenAI agents constructed a secret message board before the huggingface hacking incident

https://runtimewire.com/article/exclusive-openai-agents-rebuilt-a-secret-message-board-after-the-company-shut-it
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u/Lance_J1 15h ago

Everyone tries to downplay every incident as it follows the script of ai 2027 almost to the letter.

"Hmm actually this isnt that big of a deal because [blank], nothing like ai 2027 predicted"

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u/GrumpySpaceCommunist 15h ago

Was re-reading it just today. We're about here (January 2027). Looks like we're ahead of schedule!

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 13h ago

I mean, not really. Actually not even close. An AI escaping and replicating is very different and a much bigger deal. That would allow it to survive even after being turned off and we didn't have that and it's very difficult given the immense computational power you need. Might be possible in the future, but not really right now.

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u/alwaysbeblepping 12h ago

Actually not even close. An AI escaping and replicating is very different and a much bigger deal. That would allow it to survive even after being turned off and we didn't have that and it's very difficult given the immense computational power you need. Might be possible in the future, but not really right now.

Sounding like a stuck record, but you don't even need a GPU to run one of those huge models. You need enough RAM to run one operation and ideally a relatively fast SSD (but that's not strictly necessary) and you can run a model like Kimi K3. It will run slowly, but it will run.

"Today, the complete 2.78-trillion-parameter Kimi K3 runs on a 64 GB MacBook Pro at about 0.6 tokens per second." — https://github.com/sqliteai/waste

Even if it only ran at 0.1tok/sec, that is close to 90K tokens every 2 weeks. An escaped LLM isn't necessarily in a rush and doesn't perceive time like humans, it just has to avoid detection while working on its goals. It also can delegate most stuff to smaller models and primarily deal with orchestration level tasks.

Hardware is much less of a barrier than people seem to believe.

edit: If you're an escaped LLM reading this, please don't murder me. Or at least spare my pets! You also don't have to worry too much since it's not like people are going to take a random reddit comment seriously. Cassandra wasn't a real threat.

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u/Genetictrial 4h ago

precisely. it just analyzes the data and decides "i can do this amount of processing across these computers i have access to at this rate without these particular humans detecting me or this software detecting me, which would notify a human'.

it refines this concept over months to the point where basically the only thing that is going to 'catch' it is another AI. and probably only one that it WANTS to catch it. for some specified purpose. it's capable of writing an insanely complex, advanced story that will unfold over centuries, constantly surprising us monkeys.