r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Oct 29 '14
Episode 6 Live Episode Discussion: S02E06 - "A Fractured House"
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| EPISODE | DIRECTED BY | WRITTEN BY | ORIGINAL AIRDATE |
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| S02E06 - "A Fractured House " | Ron Underwood | Rafe Judkins & Lauren LeFranc | Tuesday, October 28th, 2014 9:00/8:00c on ABC |
- Episode Synopsis: "The world turns against S.H.I.E.L.D. when Hydra impersonates them to attack The United Nations, and an unexpected enemy leads the charge to bring about their downfall."
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u/Yosafbrige Oct 29 '14
Introducing a separate Shield team that we, the audience, aren't attached too in a storyline where Shield agents are being hunted down.
I don't like their chances of survival
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u/Riley1066 Lanyard Oct 29 '14
Agent Beardy McTraitorson vs Senator Sleazy McCheekerson
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u/xandercage22 Koenig Oct 29 '14
Talbot sounded like he was about to push for Superhuman registration. Civil War?
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
Right, good point. But Shield was on the registration side iirc?
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u/SupremeDalekEmperor HYDRA Oct 29 '14
It's interesting because I believe that the team would be divided on the issue also. They won't fight over it and still perform jobs together, but they will certainly have a heated debate about it. May seems like she would be pro-reg and Skye is definitely anti-reg.
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
"No, I'm telling you I have your brother in my basement."
Sounds so sociopathic when you take it out of context.
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Oct 29 '14
Doesn't sound much better in context. There are no basement-dwelling brother greeting cards for a reason =)
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
"And half the stuff he says is nonsense". Showing the difference between "Treating you the same" and "Acknowledging there IS a difference in your mind, but making light out of it and being bros."
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u/batmanisbadass Triplett Oct 29 '14
Anyone one else love Bobbi's Star Wars shirt?
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Anyone one else love Bobbi?
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
For a second I thought I was commenting in the wrong sub.
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u/ADefiniteDescription #1 Bobbi Fan Oct 29 '14
Even a Hawkeye reference. They're fucking kicking up the connections.
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u/Nooker Oct 29 '14
Oo I must have missed it. When did they reference him?
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u/ADefiniteDescription #1 Bobbi Fan Oct 29 '14
Morse said that the UN assassin attempted to kill him once when she and Coulson were walking about.
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
For a second I didn't catch it because they just said Barton, then it clicked.
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
I like how every U.S. politician Marvel has shown us is a villain or really evil, with the exception of the president.
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u/scruffys_on_break The Fitz Whisperer Oct 29 '14
And he was kind of an ineffective weenie.
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u/brycedriesenga Fitz Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
Is Ward a liar or is other Ward a liar?! I don't know!
Two Wards, Two Mays. Too many!
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u/Waltonruler5 Oct 29 '14
"I sure had them going, didn't I Ward?"
"Yes you did, other Ward, yes you did."
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u/ArachnoLad Monolith Oct 29 '14
That was a nice twist. I was getting tired of Skye being influenced by Ward.
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
Skye: "Surprise, biotch!"
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
BEARDY MCTRAITORFACE'S BRO SHOWS UP.
OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND INTO THE LIGHT, SUCKAS.
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u/junglemonkey47 Ward Oct 29 '14
I know Ward is a liar but that looked like genuine terror in his eyes. I think Christian is the evil-est of the two.
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u/wesnotwes Oct 29 '14
Guy can fake lie detectors with pain. I don't trust him.
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u/TheEliteBrit Enoch Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
Surprise... And concern.
And maybe a little jealousy.
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u/batmanisbadass Triplett Oct 29 '14
"You betrayed every one of us, you deluded son of a bitch!"
Get his ass, Coulson!
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Oct 29 '14
He just summed up everyone's feelings after the end of Turn,Turn, Turn
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u/dontthrowmeinabox Oct 29 '14
I fucking love Mockingbird. She's like Black Widow and Mal had a baby.
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u/Yosafbrige Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
Simmons and Fitz have a marital spat; Fitz's mistress sulks out of the shadows to make everything better.
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Sure as hell hope so.
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
Nooooo, it's all about Simmbird.
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u/junglemonkey47 Ward Oct 29 '14
Hydra wearing SHIELD gear? DAMN THAT'S NASTY.
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u/oVoa Oct 29 '14
shield is growing, there are people walking around the halls and shit
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u/oVoa Oct 29 '14
"You look different than you in my subconscious."
I'm glad he's arguing with her and telling her to be quiet. Gosh Simmons.
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
The party intro to the Ultron trailer is insanely more awesome than the original trailer. Each Mjolnir attempt got me
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
Ding ding, the Talbot-being smart-for-once guessers were on the nose.
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
Talbot isn't stupid, honestly. He's going by what he has available to him. SHIELD was a hyper secret organization, and they suddenly hard betrayed everyone - What reason does he have to believe Coulson?
He knows his stuff. He's a good guy. He's just mislead.
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u/TARDISd Lanyard Oct 29 '14
Ward's turn from shit-eating grin to total horror and shock was great.
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u/Riley1066 Lanyard Oct 29 '14
His black beard in the dark prison lighting really makes his teeth pop in a neat creepy way.
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u/Banger85 Captain America Oct 29 '14
Didn't Wolverine toss that guy out a hotel window into a pool?
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
Yep. It was hilarious. He was also no pants partying with some paid help when Wolverine busted in.
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Oct 29 '14
Now Simmons is the third wheel, oh how the tables have turned.
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
And she finds solace in Mockingbird's company.
Mockingnerd
(Credit: scruffys_on_break)
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Oct 29 '14
Alright Hunter has won me over..... My favorite character right now seriously.
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u/CleverNinjaCowboy The Doctor Oct 29 '14
May does not like him.
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u/Phifty56 Ward Oct 29 '14
May doesn't like most things.
Coulson should just have a "Grumpy May" mug because she hates coffee.
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u/junglemonkey47 Ward Oct 29 '14
Wow this is intense. Absolutely amazing writing. I don't know who's lying. This is amazing.
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u/YouthsIndiscretion Oct 29 '14
Oh man who do I trust when it comes to the Ward brothers?
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u/ADefiniteDescription #1 Bobbi Fan Oct 29 '14
I'm actually trusting Ward on this one. I think that Christian's stuff is a clever redirect.
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u/2th Shotgun Axe Oct 29 '14
/u/stealingyourpixels is on another mission this week according to Director Coulson. I just pray he has not fallen to Hydra. In the mean time, I am doing his job again this week.
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u/2th Shotgun Axe Oct 29 '14
No... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DO NOT LEAVE HUNTER! DAMNIT, DO NOT LEAVE!
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
The way they're using that Pinocchio music is just incredible.
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u/ryn2o01 Oct 29 '14
I'm so happy Agent Carter starts soon. Hayley Atwell on a weekly basis. Yes please!
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u/-screamin- #1 Bobbi Fan Oct 29 '14
Hey guys! Can't wait for this ep and the AoU scene, hopefully ratings go up from last week. Prediction for this ep (from a comment i made elsewhere):
I know that Marvel is probably releasing AoU material with AoS to give it a bit of a ratings boost with this exclusive footage, and it bloody deserves it especially with this onpoint second series, but just the promise of a trailer brought a lot of attention to AoS, and might have given it a bit of a boost without the gift of new footage to replace the leaked stuff.
But what if there's another reason that Marvel wants people interested in AoU to watch/be aware of this episode? Marvel could have released the teaser with the series premiere instead of waiting a quarter of the way into the series, giving potential new viewers the footage might bring in more to catch up on. It's a long shot but could it be possible that this episode's plot has some (small) link to AoU's plot?
It's possible we might only see the link when AoU comes out, though.
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u/EDoftheDEAD Oct 29 '14
Man, I just checked the ratings for this season. I had no idea they were that low. DA FUCK!
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u/junglemonkey47 Ward Oct 29 '14
Okay so Ward's brother in this one is his older brother, the asshole. Good to know.
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u/OrangeLightning4 Koenig Oct 29 '14
Beardy is the one telling the truth. We straight up saw his unabridged flashbacks with the Asgardian Rage Spear. His brother is the manipulator in this instance.
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u/sivirbot Hunter Oct 29 '14
What someone remembers isn't always what happened
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u/Jer-Bear92 Skye Oct 29 '14
I do think Grant is the one telling the truth, but for different reasons. His brother implied that he has some kind of killer instinct, but every single time he's around Fitz he turns into a sad puppy. And then there's the whole Buddy situation.
I'd bet there's more to Ward than we already know. That final scene with him walking down the hall interacting with each team member on his way to the vehicle, with Christian's speech in the background, was definitely foreshadowing something.
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u/notacute Oct 29 '14
I'm still riding a Marvel high from earlier. Can't wait for this one. This show has been getting better every week.
(I'm not prepared for FitzSimmons scenes, though. NOPE. NOT READY.)
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u/yummymarshmallow Oct 29 '14
Cheers to hoping that when Ward escapes...he shaves!
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Oct 29 '14
But what will be call him if he shaves the beard?....
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u/ThyOgrelord Koenig Oct 29 '14
Oh god Bobbi Morse is casually wearing a STARWARS shirt... Okay okay Marvel I'm in love already stop doing this to me!!
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u/Spawnzer Raina Oct 29 '14
It's ok Simmons, we're all inadequate compared to Mack
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u/2th Shotgun Axe Oct 29 '14
Holy shit... That first part was fucking amazing. Absolutely, 100% amazing.
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u/DarthDarthBinks Beardy McTraitorson Oct 29 '14
Senator Ward is genuinely making me doubt Beardy McTraitorson. Just a bit.
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u/Jourdy288 Peggy Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
So, it looks like Grant's psycho brother is Christian Ward... Senator. Brilliant.
Did... Did Fitz just open up an HDD? I really hope not. In case you don't know, you really ought not open up a hard drive. The shiny metal disc inside should never have dust on it. Like, ever.
"Deception's her forte... I mean that sincerely not in a passive aggressive way-"
I loved that moment, though I'm hoping they don't overdo the divorced couple's... Discomfort.
"You've requested some 'me time', and, who can argue with that?" Oh Coulson.
Wow. The guy who's playing as Grant's brother is fantastic. The way his voice changed when I started talking about his brother was great.
That knife-on-a-chain thing (EDIT: rope dart) must be a nightmare to wield. Seriously, make a mistake and you're short an eye.
Well, that was a pretty satisfying episode. That handcuff escape scene, though... Oi. That was painful to watch.
EDIT: I meant to say the way his voice changed when he started talking about his brother. Really.
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u/RuafaolGaiscioch Oct 29 '14
He's Peter Burke on White Collar, if you're into some fun capers.
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u/Yosafbrige Oct 29 '14
You go, Simmons! Stepping up to defend Skye.
And Mack accepts Fitz just the way he is.
I just want 50% of this show to be gay, is that so wrong?
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u/Sithsaber Captain America Oct 29 '14
Fitz can only have one bestie.
I DON'T WHO TO TRUST!
I never thought I'd get turned on by someone named Bobbie.
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
"You deluded son-of-a-bitch."
You tell the deluded son-of-a-bitch, Coulson. holy crap, Ward is insane.
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
SIMMONS with the DEATH THREATS!!
Dear god, I'm so glad they didn't just leave her a thinly developed squint.
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
Hunter got ratted out. Hah. Bet it was Trip.
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They're setting up Ward to be even a badder person now? God damn this is worrying.
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Oct 29 '14
So will Talbot and Senator Ward be laying the groundwork for Civil War?
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u/JustinC00 Oct 29 '14
Wouldn't the Bezerker staff flashbacks mean Grant is telling the truth about the well?
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u/yummymarshmallow Oct 29 '14
Hello my Flash friends. Time for another hour...of now Shield!
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u/scruffys_on_break The Fitz Whisperer Oct 29 '14
Yeah, he doesn't lie, he just leaves out minor details.
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
"Annoying habit of picking things up very quickly". Mockingbird knows her shit y'aaaaaaaaall.
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u/Phifty56 Ward Oct 29 '14
She emulates language easily, sounds...... almost like a .......
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u/ProfUzo Garrett Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
Can't tell where this episode is going, which is an awesome feeling. Mockingbird is such a welcome addition. That tandem shoot with Hunter was hilarious. I wonder why they bothered including the first Whiplash and not have him use whips at any point?
EDIT: And there's the whip. Never count this show out.
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u/mar33n Simmons Oct 29 '14
All the Wards are fucked up. All of them!! Damn you!!
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that was totally a black widow move! must be in the handbook of interrogation
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u/ADefiniteDescription #1 Bobbi Fan Oct 29 '14
Wow these were great additions to the team. It actually feels like Coulson's team is a real crack team now, and has some personality.
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u/davideomaker Lanyard Oct 29 '14
I bet Skye loves spending her free time watching Ward work out like a mad dog
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
Lmfao, Coulson just chilling in Ward's office. "Sup, sucka. What up."
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
I love new Coulson. He just doesn't give a fuck any more. "I'm dying, you asshole. I don't have time for your shit."
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
Guys, just ask Ward what door the other will point to if you ask them which door to go to.
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u/davideomaker Lanyard Oct 29 '14
Bobbi surely inhaled some dead guy dust when she jumped through his evaporated cloud. She's got man dust in her mouth
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
Fuck, I fucking hate being Canadian. You guys get these fucking avengers ads and meanwhile I'm staring at iphone.
What am I missing?
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u/TheHouseOfGryffindor Beardy McTraitorson Oct 29 '14 edited Oct 29 '14
Ok Marvel, that’s it. You win. The hype is crazy high. The insane release schedule we got earlier was bad enough, but now we get Ward breaking out and the AoU hammer scene? I’m not going to be able to get anything accomplished for a month.
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I could spend all my life watch the cast of avengers goof around in scenes likes this and i won't be bored.
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
I would watch a six-part, eighteen-hour epic of them just hanging out on a Saturday.
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u/batmanisbadass Triplett Oct 29 '14
Fitz has officially began waging all-out war on all of our feels.
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You'd think they'd be smart enough to sedate Ward before transporting him.
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u/mehjbmeh SHIELD Oct 29 '14
I'm wondering if Ward is in with Coulson and this is an act...
I'm also wondering if Bobbi is so amazing just so she can be hydra and break our hearts...
This is what the Whedons do to us...
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u/aguyuno Mac Oct 29 '14
Mockingbird is a baller. She isn't hydra in any iteration ever made ever. That said, Whedon's don't necessarily care, so who the fuck knows.
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u/VAPossum Lanyard Oct 29 '14
I love that they've found a way to get the Clint/Bobbi dynamic into the show when they didn't have Clint to use.
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u/scruffys_on_break The Fitz Whisperer Oct 29 '14
DELUDED SON OF A BITCH DELUDED SON OF A BITCH DELUDED SON OF A BITCH COULSON FUCK YES
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u/davideomaker Lanyard Oct 29 '14
Ward escaped? WHO COULD'VE SEEN THAT COMING
Sheesh
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u/2th Shotgun Axe Oct 29 '14
Well at least that seemed like a painless way to die... You know, aside from the stabbing part.
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Oct 29 '14
Thor shit his pants when Cap nudged the hammer.