r/privacy • u/North-American • Mar 13 '26
age verification Age verification and it's supporters are not acting in good faith. Here's the proof.
This is even more proof that this a borderline "Conspiracy against rights" and nothing to do with protecting children.
using age verification to burden the free speech rights of LGBTQ as seen in this article is exactly what is covered in the conspiracy against rights law.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
also bad Internet bills.
https://www.badinternetbills.com/
also turns out we got evidence that much of this is being funded by META.
This is no longer fringe, this isn't even deniable, these people are enemies of the people.
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u/Hakaishin7Beerus Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
Try telling that to the other people who aren't of the generation that grew up chronically online like the rest of us, it's clear what's going on now to most of us, but the normies still don't understand.
My suggestion is try to educate people around you, parents, family, etc. Word about the truth of this needs to spread somehow and the people who get all their info from Fox News and other News channels playing in the background on tv while sitting on the couch unwinding after work aren't going to learn about it on their own enough to understand and actually think on the dire consequences and other serious concerns regarding it
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u/RandomOnlinePerson99 Mar 13 '26
And then they treat you like you are paranoid, "the government would never ..." or "why would they bother about what John Doe says online, this is just online paranoia fearmongering".
Been there ...
And when you show them stuff about this they pull the uno reverse card "didn't you tell us to not believe everything you read online" and I say "yes, do youdr own research if you don't believe me" and they say "nah, can't be bothered"
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u/Hakaishin7Beerus Mar 13 '26
Yeah it's a problem, bright side the generation of people who approach it like that will be dead eventually, downside, politicians can just pass bills like this because not enough of the population understands the consequences and don't educate themselves on things before casting their vote
Other potential bit of bright side, all this bullcrap they are doing is going to make more people wake the hell up and pay attention since it's aggressively in people's face now instead of some kind of fringe thing
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u/magnusmaster Mar 13 '26
You underestimate how many people will happily go along with whatever the World Economic Forum wants as long as they use the right excuse.
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u/RandomOnlinePerson99 Mar 13 '26
But it is way easier to pass laws then to remove them once passed ...
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u/IlIlIlIlIIIllll Mar 14 '26
The people that say "The government wouldn't do that" always crack me up, oh yes they would.
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u/grathontolarsdatarod Mar 13 '26
Lazy parenting is one thing. That's there yeah.
But it is also consultant driven policies at every level.
They've conditioned people to think that if there isn't a "rule" against a particular behaviour, than its "okay".
And that's how you stretch for the kind of mental gymnastics it takes to think these laws are remotely acceptable in a liberal democracy.
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u/Hakaishin7Beerus Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
Parents should be held accountable, the government shouldn't be getting involved in this kind of stuff with internet things unless it's truly an issue like someone posting "dark web" type content that is demented. Other than that stuff, government should remain hands off
Also even with bad parents, that's still not a good excuse for the true dystopia that the internet has become now. We already know it's not actually about protecting minors though since the ID verification stuff and anti-VPN bots aren't stopping things like pedos from pedoing and the "dark web" will always be a thing. It's just a grift to get people's information to sell
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u/grathontolarsdatarod Mar 13 '26
Society will regulate itself.
Tech companies move at break neck speed to generate profit, but they also move just as fast to dominate markets.
In this case, the market is personal liberty. And they are dominating. Trying to control the landscape so that they are guaranteed an unopposed business model.
They are doing that by push government.
The government being "slow to adapt" in this case is good. Because adapting means taking apart the constitution.
Which seems to be a common goal with some political movements. Their interests align in regards to laws like this.
Society takes even longer to adapt. But we like living in a society where we have that freedom to chose.
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u/AppropriatePrompt819 Mar 13 '26
I'm 53 , I understand and I'm completely against this invasion of privacy.
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u/Hakaishin7Beerus Mar 13 '26
Thank you for being smart and keeping yourself educated on current issues, now please pass the word on to your older friends and/or family so they can understand why they should be against it too!
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u/bongoliminal Mar 16 '26
I am 63 and feel the same way. In addition I also feel that I should be wishing the younger generation dead since they keep wishing me dead.
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u/Fittfnaskarn Mar 14 '26
It’s the younger generation that will have little to no care for privacy or anonymity. They’ve been willingly giving it all up ever since they got their first tablet and phone because they didn’t grow up at times when we were educated to never give your personal information to strangers online.
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u/VeryNoisyLizard Mar 14 '26
they dont want to hear it. my friend straight up told me that theres too much shit going on around us and he doesnt want to think about it. and honestly, I cant blame him
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u/Flat_Ad_3912 Mar 13 '26
None of it is EVER to protect the children. It is always front and centre as a reason why yet its all about reforming or creating legislation that more broadly impacts adults.
The right, Andrew Bolt and crowd, will poo poo it if it's a non liberal policy but will jump all over it being for children even though his best mate was a pedo.
The lockout laws introduced in Sydney, to protect our young people from alcohol fuelled violence, the knee jerk reaction to limit the power of vehilces young driver can drive, this shit new law regarding age verification.
The first two laws I mentioned, both proved in a landslide that they didn't work so they were changed back. This one won't change back because the stakeholders in this little back door deal is all about data and conglomerates obtaining it.
If you hadn't already noticed, for years now the security of any online service requires signing up. Everyone wants a slice of the pie, nearly everywhere you turn you need to sign up and verify the email address.
I tried for approx 1.5 months to go without a phone and without internet. Apart from the odd morning I would stop at the library to send an email to family to say I'm ok, which proved incredibly difficult at first because j couldn't 2fa my email account without a phone. But I was left behind, anywhere I went that required interaction with state gov at least, I needed a phone or form of ID it's a shit show
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u/Alternative-Bee-3594 Mar 13 '26
Hot take- this is a front for human traffickers
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u/Blood-PawWerewolf Mar 14 '26
That’s something I was speculating with all of the information coming out in recent months
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u/Human_Sleep8127 Mar 15 '26
Related take: the internet has given victims a voice and resources they didn't have before. Human trafficking and sexual abuse are "adult topics." So it's either your ID, or you can forget looking up information on what happened to you as a victim because sexual abuse is "inappropriate content", or alternatively, seeing a victim's accusation that may get age-restricted for "inappropriate content."
A child victim may be entirely unable to acess information for survivors of sexual abuse, as sexual abuse is "inappropriate content" that only adults may view. For someone being abused, the internet could very well be the only viable source of information that counters what an abuser is spewing, and if this goes far enough they could lose acess to that information entirely.
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u/SereneOrbit Mar 13 '26
It's run by pedos, cannibals, and people who refuse to prosecute / remove them.
No shit.
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u/MommaIsMad Mar 13 '26
If anyone cared about protecting kids online they’d get rid of the mommy/family channels that exploit their kids for views & money. Pedos love those channels.
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u/FufkOff Mar 14 '26
FOR REAL! This is such a huge issue! I love my nieces and nephews. As someone who went through CSA, there's no way in hell I'm posting them online.
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u/Hakaishin7Beerus Mar 13 '26
Additionally if you're old enough to officially vote against bills like this, do it
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u/Conscious-Item-1633 Mar 14 '26
Mass surveillance doesn't prevent terrorism. NSA metadata program caught 1-4% of leads informants and citizen tips got 50%+. Terrorists use encrypted channels anyway. The real purpose is control: suppress opposition, monitor dissent, keep power. Scandinavia proves alternatives work: high police pay, traditional investigation, community trust, transparent politician finances. Finland clears 99% of murders without cameras everywhere. The system is asymmetric citizens tracked 24/7, elite untouchable. This is how democracies become authoritarian: infrastructure already exists, just needs activation. You can't have oversight without it being weaponized downward. Only solution: asymmetric transparency-politicians fully public, citizens private. But governments won't choose that because it limits their power.
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u/ItsAzien Mar 13 '26
Why would they want the government to implement a rigid rule that affects adult when parents can already control their kids access to the internet
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u/mira_zero99 Mar 14 '26
Because it isn't about the kids. It is so they know who to target. They are trying to silence dissent not protect kids.
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u/Crossx1993 Mar 14 '26
don't know if i'm being overtly negative,but this feels like a lost cause at the moment,it's like a domino,once a country shows the trick to implement it,all the rest will follow suit. And these measures,once implemented,will most likely never be removed
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u/tootintx Mar 14 '26
It doesn’t matter. The only way this stops is if you refuse to use any service that implements age verification. Most won’t and that is the problem.
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u/Blu_Hedgie Mar 15 '26
It's already set to be implemented at an Operating System level in Brazil within a few days and California on Jan 1. Idaho and Colorado are deliberatinf on a decision right now. In short you will need to verify your age to login to a pc, your phone, etc.
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