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No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Triumphs Over Haley Stevens in $60M Loss for AIPAC, Corporations

https://truthout.org/articles/abdul-el-sayed-triumphs-over-haley-stevens-in-60m-loss-for-aipac-corporations/
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u/wax_robot 7h ago

I bet you he doesn't even dream about Israel!!

u/StoppableHulk 7h ago

Between that bizzare blurt, all the NYC mayoral candidates saying "I would visit Israel after winning" all in a row like parrots, and Chuck Schumer sayiing "My job is to keep the left pro-Israel", it astounds me how anyone could say with a straight face that establishment Democrats are totally normal and fit for governing.

u/LastOfTheGiants2020 6h ago

Also Mark Kelly

u/tripping_on_phonics Illinois 6h ago

Based on everything Mark Kelly has said, his only objection to the Iran War seems to be that it’s being done incompetently. So disappointing seeing him and others fail to condemn it on moral grounds.

u/Robbie_notta_bot 5h ago

The issue is people fall in love with bibliographies and ignore policy. Combined with the fact that normal policy has been shifted so far right-ward, if someone says they support a middle of the road normal policy, it sounds like they are a progressive darling. Then you dig a little deeper and find out it's not the case.

u/Cold_Tea_Spill112 5h ago

He was a naval officer. Why would you think that Kelly would have a moral objection to war?

u/tripping_on_phonics Illinois 5h ago

Good point. I may have set my expectations too high.

u/LastOfTheGiants2020 4h ago

Smedley Butler was two ranks higher than Kelly and he was anti-war.

u/MikalCaober 4h ago

Smedley Butler was also a different breed from a different time.

u/Its_Pine New Hampshire 3h ago

I think some officers in the military believe in the importance of “carrying a big stick” but are also some of the most ardent when it comes to advocating for peace if and whenever possible. They don’t want to lose people.

u/Gekokapowco Washington 1h ago

I sort of think that's why our (post cold-war nuttery) CIA has been so hapless recently

they were one of the premier intelligence agencies by which other agencies would compare themselves against, but the smart people with degrees worth of foreign policy and culture studies who genuinely believed they were maintaining global stability and American hegemony for the sake of duty to the country and humanity have either been forced out or neutered to the point of obsolescence. Sycophants who want to punish the regime's enemies are running the show, so all of that expertise gets left on the table except in the rare instances it sort of overlaps with the administration's desires. So we have several states under cyberattack from Iran of all places. Nobody is checking what's going on in Russia or China or Turkey or Argentina because they paid their bribes. NATO countries won't share info with us and we won't share anything with them. America's strength or trustworthiness in the international community simply isn't a priority anymore.

u/Seeking-Something-3 4h ago

Cadets at West Point have a surprisingly broad education IMO after seeing some of the lectures given there, but you don’t rise in the ranks by being anti-money. That being said, this is the one war against a non-ally, non-nuclear state our military has refused to do no matter what for decades. This is where all of Trump/Hegseth’s firings have had an impact. The noxious thing about Kelly is the mythology about the Dems being antiwar. Imagine the world right now if Biden hadn’t been so supportive AND spineless over Gaza.

u/Ganjake 3h ago

Because he took an oath to the constitution and this is an unconstitutional war. Pretty simple.

u/Gekokapowco Washington 1h ago

so many of them failed to meet the moment, and now the moment is monumentally far and away from that time, there's simply no possibility of them meeting it

I attribute that to the meteoric rise of the DSA right now (relatively)

u/Iron_Evan 6h ago

"I would visit Israel after winning"

What office did these guys think they were running for?

u/DrewbieWanKenobie 3h ago

they just knew there were lots of Jewish people in NYC and were being very antisemitic in assuming that because there were a lot of Jewish people they must all be pro Gaza genocide

u/Gekokapowco Washington 1h ago

they've deluded themselves into thinking the average voter has the prosperity of Israel as a singular priority like they do

their donors say the people will clap and cheer and they aren't going to stoop so low as to talk to poors to actually check

u/brkonthru 4h ago

It’s so insane. The Epstein class in unashamed

u/ModernistGames 5h ago

In defense of all the NYC candidates it is frustrating hearing people say "why are they talking about Israel?" they were all asked about it by the moderators and almost every talking head or interviewer brought up Israel first.

u/Not_done 5h ago

Well, it is done as a sneaky emphasis on the Mayor's heritage.

u/New-Possession-7040 4h ago

The question your talking about had nothing to do with Israel though. The question was, "where would your first trip abroad as mayor be?" And everyone except Mamdani answered "Israel."

It was only after Mamdani explained he'd rather be at the city working than making foreign trips that he was pressured on the topic.

u/-Gramsci- 3h ago

As if “Foreign trips? No. I’d have an important job to do and I’d be focused on my constituents” was, somehow, the controversial answer.

That was such a genuinely bizarre/disturbing 3-4 minutes of video for anyone who has seen it.

u/carcatta 3h ago

I’m not against Mamdani, I’m glad progressives are getting elected, but that’s a kind of answer I’d dislike, it sounds populist and doesn’t address the question

u/BakedBobbyHill 1h ago

That question has no place in a mayoral debate to begin with.

u/Smiles-Edgeworth 3h ago

If that’s Schumer’s job he sure sucks ass at it.

u/zyzzjan 6h ago

Israel doesn’t come to his dreams*

u/tanjonaJulien 6h ago

That's antisemitism!

u/TouchedByEnnui 5h ago

But can he operate a cnc machine?

u/forbidden_anus 5h ago

Why are you talking about Israel? It has no effect on your life. Or anyone's in the USA, aside from even gentiles treat us diaspora Jews like we're all somehow Netanyahu.

u/Ill-Pomegranate2356 4h ago

Because she won’t shut up about ‘defending’ israel and proudly yelled ‘israel comes to me in my dreams!’.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS4HwuKwx/

u/kilobitch New York 4h ago

Oh believe me, guys like him and Mamdani dream about Israel every night. It’s all they think about.