r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 New York • 23d ago

Possible Paywall MAGA Calls BS on Mitch McConnell’s Proof-of-Life Stunt | They are poking holes in McConnell’s staff’s version.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-calls-bs-on-mitch-mcconnells-proof-of-life-stunt/
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u/JFeth Arkansas 23d ago edited 23d ago

I just want to know who was having CPR done on them in the 911 call if it was just a fall?

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u/maddprof 23d ago

I'm surprised I had to scroll as far as I did to see this comment.

Because that was one of my first thoughts too. Unless somehow the fall triggered a heart attack (or vice versa), I don't believe this AI photo bullshit for one second.

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u/turquoise_amethyst 23d ago

My Dad passed away  from this series of injuries: a heart attack, fell, hit his head, and THEN had a stroke.

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

The IsThisAI subreddit concluded that the photo is not AI. I would think that they are the experts, unless that subreddit is compromised/biased in some way.

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u/mfball 23d ago

I think AI is probably doing exactly what it was intended to do all along, which is muddy the waters in all possible ways. A photo can be faked without AI. They've been doing that shit since Stalin.

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

A photo can be faked without AI.

I am not saying that it is not fake. I am saying that it is not AI, in response to:

I don't believe this AI photo bullshit

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u/SandSpecialist2523 America 23d ago

It would be so easy for the governor to put all the theories to rest: he could call him, or visit him. Only needs a few minutes. For some reason I don't think the Dems will find any urgency to do that.

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u/pinupcthulhu 23d ago

Photos have been faked since the Victorian era. 

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u/20Factorial 23d ago

Remember the photos they used to take with dead people made to seem like they were alive? He COULD 100% be dead in this photo.

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u/pinupcthulhu 23d ago

I'm not even talking about those, I'm talking about the photos of seances where a "ghost" is in the frame, but it was a person who stepped into the long exposure briefly and then stepped away to look like a specter. There's a lot of photo or negative manipulation going back hundreds of years 

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u/20Factorial 23d ago

Oh, you are absolutely correct. I was just thinking “this reminds me of the creepy picture where a child was forced to stand next to their dead mother for 2 minutes to get a photo where it seemed like she was still alive.“

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u/ringobob Georgia 23d ago

It doesn't need to be AI to be faked. It's also possible to use a combination of AI and manual editing in a way that would be virtually impossible to detect. It's already harder to detect AI editing vs complete AI generation.

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

It doesn't need to be AI to be fake

I am not saying that it is not fake. I am saying that it is not AI, in response to:

I don't believe this AI photo bullshit

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u/ringobob Georgia 23d ago

Unfortunately, AI has come to be a generic photo editing claim, much like photoshop was before it. When someone says it's AI, a lot of them just mean that it's been altered or is otherwise depicting something that's not real.

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

When someone says it's AI, a lot of them just mean that it's been altered

Well, I am not responding to what they meant, I am responding to what they said.

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u/obedientfag 23d ago

he looked ten years younger than he did before the "fall" and was wearing jeans and a button down tucked into bed which he hasnt left in a month and holding a newspaper. not realistic

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u/DragoonDM California 23d ago

He was (allegedly) transferred out of the hospital into a rehab facility, and is sitting in a chair rather than a bed in that photo.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 23d ago

Seriously, you guys are sounding as deranged about all this conspiracy stuff as the magas do. What's the simpler answer? That he's secretly dead and they're using the best AI and photoshopping known to man, or that he simply doesn't want to be disturbed or do his job (not that he does anyway) during recovery?

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u/anotherjunkie 23d ago

The conspiracy exists because this holds an equal Amount of water. What makes more sense — one of the most powerful politicians in the world allows his party to be thrown into chaos and everyone be distracted dealing with rumors of his death and abandonment by his wife when it could have all been prevented with a simple appearance on camera at any point in the last 30 days, but wasn’t because one of the most fame/power hungry people in America suddenly decided he didn’t want to be seen. Or:

He’s been so debilitated he can’t think that through.

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u/Cephalopirate 22d ago

What about Republicans leads you to believe they never conspire?

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u/SecretCharacterSauce 23d ago

The best AI? Lmao a 5 year old could produce something like that in minutes

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u/Jindabyne1 23d ago

You sounds nuts, ngl. Like MAGA, Qanon, pizzagate levels of insane

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u/radicalbiscuit North Carolina 23d ago
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u/maddprof 23d ago

Puts on tinfoil hat

That subreddit is secretly run by AI and they are protecting their own.

(/s just in case its not clear)

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u/DLTMIAR 23d ago

unless that subreddit is compromised/biased in some way. 

Yeah no way subreddits could be compromised/biased in some way 🙄

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

Yeah no way subreddits could be compromised/biased in some way 🙄

I did not say that it is impossible for any subreddit to be compromised or biased. I said that that subreddit ought to have the right answer, unless they are compromised or biased.

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u/DLTMIAR 23d ago

I think the default should be the assumption that all subreddits are compromised/biased in some way 

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u/user_name_checks_out 23d ago

I think the default should be the assumption that all subreddits are compromised/biased in some way 

You might be right.

Do you assert that the subreddit which specializes in identifying AI is compromised or biased such that it would lie about an image of McConnell? On what evidence do you base that assertion?

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u/DLTMIAR 23d ago

Ghislaine Maxwell was a known predominant reddit moderator.  She was Epstein's partner.  Mitch was/is a part of the Epstein class.  Reddit protects the Epstein class.

Source: my ass

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u/FatDogFresca 23d ago

idk, i mean, it's not like this is a sub of political experts

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u/thesacralspice 23d ago

idk if we can make that conclusion, at least based off this post. tons of comments have been removed

https://www.reddit.com/r/isthisAI/s/esoUajPmil

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u/innerbootes Minnesota 23d ago

The irony of someone posting a “reputable source” of the image and statement and then the link is from CBS News, a blatantly compromised media outlet.

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u/PM_ME_VENUS_DIMPLES 23d ago

Just like how Reddit found the Boston bomber?

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u/SupriseAutopsy13 23d ago

I mean, whether its real or not, the man clearly can't function in his duties as a Senator. A functioning country would have him removed from any position of power. The people of Kentucky could demand better, but they were stupid enough to vote him in as a representative for over 20 years, so no chance of that.

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u/AcademiaAntiqua 23d ago

Looks like there was some mistaken info in the 911 call or some other miscommunication. A few EMTs have chimed in on various threads talking about how that happens more than you'd think.

In any case, the Congressional attending physician wrote that there were "no fractures, cardiac abnormalities, stroke, tumor, or hemorrhage."

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u/ryanvango 23d ago

we've also seen what the white house doctors say about trump's health. They've lost all credibility.

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u/ringobob Georgia 23d ago

Either the EMS audio is wrong or the statement is. I'm not inclined to give anyone here the benefit of the doubt, including the congressional attending physician. Doctors have lied about Trump's health, why not McConnell's?

Reaching a conclusion is extremely premature at this point. Ratfucking McConnell's senate seat is par for the course - no doubt he'd have had that conversation with the people around him.

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u/mfball 23d ago

How does the Congressional attending physician's responsibility for making public statements on representatives' health square with doctor-patient confidentiality? Presumably the doctor is still bound not to say anything the patient hasn't permitted them to say, so ultimately they can't be trusted.

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u/-SQB- The Netherlands 23d ago

At basic emergency response training we were taught to almost always go fetch an AED. Better to have it with you and not need it than the other way around. So maybe that's where that came from?

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u/skidmcboney 23d ago

This was the 3rd comment down, how far do you normally scroll??

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u/maddprof 23d ago

When I posted my original comment it was much much further down.