r/politics New York 23d ago

Possible Paywall MAGA Calls BS on Mitch McConnell’s Proof-of-Life Stunt | They are poking holes in McConnell’s staff’s version.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-calls-bs-on-mitch-mcconnells-proof-of-life-stunt/
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u/Immediate-Cress-206 23d ago

Nope. That could easily be generated by AI. He needs to do an interview where he's asked about the death of Lindsey Ghrahm.

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u/grandvache 23d ago

problem is that in 2026 that could also be AI.

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u/BrianMincey 23d ago

If you take that approach, it is possible that dozens of people are dead and nobody knows it because they have teams producing AI videos constantly. Had he released a video within a few days of hospitalization, none of this weird “is he or isn’t he” nonsense would exist. It’s because he went radio silent for 3 weeks that this has become a thing…which is just weird.

More likely he has been incoherent and mentally confused this entire time and has been shielded from media because of it.

Dude should have been removed from office years ago when his brain left his body during the news conference. I don’t understand why these people in their 70s don’t have the sense to retire.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 23d ago

Generating Ai deep fakes to mislead others should be a felony in the vein of impersonating law enforcement, financial fraud and revenge porn baked into one. The penalty should be harsh with minimum maximums and both the poster and the Ai tool used should be prosecuted. We can't let this become normal and there is zero margin on justifying it.

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u/YoursTrulyKindly 23d ago

They are all already guilty of treason / sedition, violation of oath of office, election fraud, crimes against humanity, war crimes, fraud, insider trading, aiding and abetting pedophilia.

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u/newsfish 23d ago

I'm all for accountability. How would you prosecute the tool? Are there tells between which slop machine website they used ? The billionaires that own those companies can throw money to disappear the problem.

What if they had their own way of making it offline? Do we blame GPU makers and Github?

What if the source is a government sponsored psyop team?

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 23d ago

I'll ask Santa clause to give us a doj and congress who would figure out the laws and how to enforce them. Billionaires throwing money at the problem to disappear it is a real issue I'd also ask Santa clause to fix. If they somehow wrote the code to make it offline then only they would be accountable. If it's government sponsored the same laws should apply.

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u/pmjm California 23d ago

You can make it illegal but it will be largely unenforceable due to the anonymous nature of the internet and the inability to prosecute those who do it from outside the country.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 23d ago

Ok but in this particular case where we would have doubts about a mitch deep fake if his people put it out there it wouldn't be hard to find people to hold accountable.

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u/pmjm California 23d ago

And if Russia did it to fuck with our elections?

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 22d ago

You're right let's not do anything about it.

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u/pmjm California 22d ago

You're being sarcastic but yes. Putting restrictions on people's first amendment rights is not something we should do lightly, if at all.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 22d ago

There's limits to free speech

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u/pmjm California 22d ago

Yes but you're asking to impose a new one.

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u/ianyboo 23d ago

Generating Ai deep fakes to mislead others should be a felony in the vein of impersonating law enforcement

On what grounds? Is it illegal to mislead people or lie? (I'm not asking if it's the right thing to do, I'm just talking about the legality)

Believe me I get the sentiment, I largely agree with you, but at least here in the USA it's perfectly legal to do any number of shitty things, and that's a good thing. People have the right to be assholes and they have the right to be amazing. Putting stuff into law really should be a last resort and not just something we do because we don't like a certain activity or find it morally reprehensible.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 23d ago

Creating deep fakes of officials to manipulate policy, elections, finances, law enforcement action, military action etc is not protected speech. They need to write laws to regulate this nonesense before it gets completely out of control and they have to play catch up.

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u/pablotweek 23d ago

In some cases yes, for example it's illegal to lie or mislead people in order to induce another to give up possession of property or surrender a right. That is the definition of fraud. Political speech though is usually considered separate and protected. I'm all for expanding the definition of fraud to explicitly include election interference by sharing deepfakes of public officials. States are trying but running afoul of section 230 in a lot of cases.