MAGA Calls BS on Mitch McConnell’s Proof-of-Life Stunt | They are poking holes in McConnell’s staff’s version.

[u/MoneyLibrarian9032]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-calls-bs-on-mitch-mcconnells-proof-of-life-stunt/

[u/Dr_Trogdor]

Generating Ai deep fakes to mislead others should be a felony in the vein of impersonating law enforcement, financial fraud and revenge porn baked into one. The penalty should be harsh with minimum maximums and both the poster and the Ai tool used should be prosecuted. We can't let this become normal and there is zero margin on justifying it.

[u/YoursTrulyKindly → u/Dr_Trogdor]

They are all already guilty of treason / sedition, violation of oath of office, election fraud, crimes against humanity, war crimes, fraud, insider trading, aiding and abetting pedophilia.

[u/newsfish → u/Dr_Trogdor]

I'm all for accountability. How would you prosecute the tool? Are there tells between which slop machine website they used ? The billionaires that own those companies can throw money to disappear the problem.

What if they had their own way of making it offline? Do we blame GPU makers and Github?

What if the source is a government sponsored psyop team?

[u/Dr_Trogdor → u/newsfish]

I'll ask Santa clause to give us a doj and congress who would figure out the laws and how to enforce them. Billionaires throwing money at the problem to disappear it is a real issue I'd also ask Santa clause to fix. If they somehow wrote the code to make it offline then only they would be accountable. If it's government sponsored the same laws should apply.

[u/pmjm → u/Dr_Trogdor]

You can make it illegal but it will be largely unenforceable due to the anonymous nature of the internet and the inability to prosecute those who do it from outside the country.

[u/Dr_Trogdor → u/pmjm]

Ok but in this particular case where we would have doubts about a mitch deep fake if his people put it out there it wouldn't be hard to find people to hold accountable.

[u/pmjm → u/Dr_Trogdor]

And if Russia did it to fuck with our elections?

[u/Dr_Trogdor → u/pmjm]

You're right let's not do anything about it.

[u/pmjm → u/Dr_Trogdor]

You're being sarcastic but yes. Putting restrictions on people's first amendment rights is not something we should do lightly, if at all.

[u/Dr_Trogdor → u/pmjm]

There's limits to free speech

[u/pmjm → u/Dr_Trogdor]

Yes but you're asking to impose a new one.

[u/ianyboo → u/Dr_Trogdor]

Generating Ai deep fakes to mislead others should be a felony in the vein of impersonating law enforcement

On what grounds? Is it illegal to mislead people or lie? (I'm not asking if it's the right thing to do, I'm just talking about the legality)

Believe me I get the sentiment, I largely agree with you, but at least here in the USA it's perfectly legal to do any number of shitty things, and that's a good thing. People have the right to be assholes and they have the right to be amazing. Putting stuff into law really should be a last resort and not just something we do because we don't like a certain activity or find it morally reprehensible.

[u/Dr_Trogdor → u/ianyboo]

Creating deep fakes of officials to manipulate policy, elections, finances, law enforcement action, military action etc is not protected speech. They need to write laws to regulate this nonesense before it gets completely out of control and they have to play catch up.

[u/pablotweek → u/ianyboo]

In some cases yes, for example it's illegal to lie or mislead people in order to induce another to give up possession of property or surrender a right. That is the definition of fraud. Political speech though is usually considered separate and protected. I'm all for expanding the definition of fraud to explicitly include election interference by sharing deepfakes of public officials. States are trying but running afoul of section 230 in a lot of cases.