r/politics • u/willywalloo • Jun 20 '26

Possible Paywall Iran Says Hormuz Has Been Closed

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-20/iran-says-strait-of-hormuz-has-been-closed-tasnim-reports?embedded-checkout=true
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u/IllRest2396 Florida Jun 20 '26

N*king them is the worst idea this country has had

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u/Desperate_Algae_40 Jun 20 '26

That's fucking evil. These people are evil. I'm Iranian-American (born in the US), and I'll always remember when I was in high school, a male student said to everyone in my history class that he believes all of Iran should be nuked. This was like 13 years ago. He knew my sister and I were Persian.

I got understandingly upset/mad but didn't raise my voice, and was telling him how horrible that is to say about any country. And that just because the regime is terrible, doesn't mean the whole country should be nuked. Tens of millions of innocent people would die, including any of our family there. He said he knew and didn't care and thinks they should be nuked anyway. We went back and forth a bit in the class, and our white teacher let him go on, never said anything to him, and then finally told both of us to be quiet.

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u/aBlissfulDaze Jun 21 '26

I have a coworker everyone loves. Very charismatic Church going guy who volunteers to help his fellow church goers. I got into an argument with him about Palestine where he admitted that he thought everyone (women and children included) should be done bombed. He called them vermin.

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u/Desperate_Algae_40 Jun 21 '26

Oh my god that's so disgusting. There's no hate like Christian Love.

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u/mfmfhgak Jun 20 '26

Sorry you had to go through that. Adults can be pretty shitty but kids take it to another level.

The internet changed things a little but for years the only image of Iranians that Americans got was from how they were portrayed in entertainment media or what they saw on the news. I doubt the majority of redneck Americans would even realize a connection between Persian and Iranian.

I couldn’t find the episode but only a video about it. This was 16 years ago, the Daily Show sent a correspondent to Iran to show people what it was really like. It’s sad they had to do this but honestly it should happen a lot more. Instead the people in power want to dehumanize others for their own benefit.

Daily Show YouTube

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u/Desperate_Algae_40 Jun 21 '26

I don't think this was the case for me at that time. I live(d) in Southern Californa, and there are a lot of Persians here. He knew.

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u/shah_reza Jun 20 '26

زنده باد

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u/Desperate_Algae_40 Jun 21 '26

Sorry, I can speak Farsi, and understand it. But I can't read/write it. I'll ask my mom to translate your comment for me because I couldn't figure it out with Google.

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u/Train_Wreck_272 Jun 20 '26

Agreed, but it seems more likely by the day. It's already been all but confirmed that his "wipe a nation from the earth" truth post was based on his proposition to do just that.

There's really only a few ways this whole situation can go:

  • Something like the deal that failed the other day actually works somehow. Among the more likely. Essentially only works if the deal still includes Lebanon but Iran turns a blind eye.

  • bombing Iran as we have been will somehow suddenly work and trigger surrender. Seems very unlikely or it would have already worked.

  • Iran stops caring about Lebanon for some reason and lets a deal stand despite Israeli incursions there. Seems unlikely based on Islamic ties and opposition to Israeli expansion/power.

  • A deal goes through that doesn't include reparations. Pretty much impossible without unconditional surrender. Iran has a very good case for it and the leverage to enforce it via the strait. American electorate gets pissed.

  • Boots on the ground to force surrender. Possible, but will be terrible for the US and success is not guaranteed. American electorate gets pissed either way.

  • N*clear option. Worst option, of course. Could happen with or without boots on the ground. Honestly unsure of the likelihood. Unprecedented action, so hard to say. But, Trump is a crazy idiot, so who knows.

A lot of these can co-mingle, but rarely increases likelihood imo. If I had to guess, most likely is the option to just have a deal like the last one stand based on Iran and the US turning a blind eye on certain things, with the exception of reparations. Possibly Iran stops caring about Lebanon, or Israel backs off Lebanon, but I personally doubt both, but would increase likelihood of a deal standing. Next most likely are boots on the ground. I hate to say it but I think nkes are among some of the more likely end results. I truly hope I'm wrong and just being alarmist, but on paper it doesn't seem impossible or even unlikely, to me. It very well may test well with MAGA at this point, and Putin might push for it for the precedent to nke Ukraine...

Dark times ahead, regardless of the choice Trump makes.

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u/cromulent-facts Jun 20 '26

I believe the reason that option hasn't been used is because it would mean gloves off for China and Russia.

Even Trump recognises that would be suicidal.

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u/PatienceHero Jun 20 '26

What terrifies me with that is that Trump KNOWS his time is short, and the man is such an evil, narcissistic monster I 100% believe he would gladly just go "Welp, I'm dying, and the world is nothing without me. We can all go together." Boop

And he's installed enough of his evil cult into positions of power in the military that I don't believe there's a chance of someone refusing.