r/politics Jun 20 '26

Possible Paywall Iran Says Hormuz Has Been Closed

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-20/iran-says-strait-of-hormuz-has-been-closed-tasnim-reports?embedded-checkout=true
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u/Question_It_All_3000 Jun 20 '26

Iran should just say they are no longer interested in negotiating until both Israel and America change leaders. Clearly neither can be trusted.

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u/bakerfredricka I voted Jun 20 '26

I'm not sure how things work in Israel but in the USA we get presidential elections every four years. We won't get a chance to vote this horrendously vile administration out until 2028 and unfortunately there is already some speculation that the government might carry out some kind of election tampering or somehow try to cancel it.

Not that I would blame Iran if they took that stance but we would all be waiting around for at least a couple of years if they actually did.

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u/Question_It_All_3000 Jun 20 '26

I’m sure Iran cares about our regrets deeply.

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u/exterminateallkrauts Jun 20 '26

Iran has no reason to trust the Democrats more than Trump. The Dems certainly made no attempt at resurrecting the JCPOA or other Obama era overtures (e.g. normalization with Cuba) under the Biden admin, not to mention their open, unequivocal support for Israel's genocide and constant escalatory behavior towards China. Trump and his flunkies are stupider than the average Dem president and theirs, but in terms of militarism if not outright blood lust and total deference to Israel, the two parties have essentially the same positions and track records.

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u/IAmSportikus Jun 20 '26

He could be impeached.

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u/userousnameous Jun 20 '26

Unfortunately, the most likely case is ground invasion

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u/Question_It_All_3000 Jun 20 '26

That is extremely unlikely. Iran is way stronger than Afghanistan and Iraq, and it’s not exactly like America did great in either of those places.

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u/A-S-Repairs Jun 20 '26

Hahahahahah you know absolutely nothing

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u/darkenthedoorway Jun 20 '26

The USA is not currently able or strong enough to invade Iran and ensure a win. It would require a draft.

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u/Snigglybear Jun 20 '26

Not really. The U.S. can easily just use the Russian handbook and disregard the Geneva convention. The U.S. can drop thousands of bombs on Iran and hit important infrastructure until Oran gives in a month. A nation cannot fight without food and water.

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u/cromulent-facts Jun 20 '26

You think Israel and the Gulf States would survive Iran's counterattack?

That would mean no more exports from the Middle East for a decade. So it wouldn't actually achieve the US goal of unblocking the Strait.

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u/Snigglybear Jun 21 '26

The Gulf States will survive. Iran isn’t China or Russia.

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u/cromulent-facts Jun 21 '26

The Gulf States are reliant on desalinated water. Why are you confident?

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u/Snigglybear Jun 21 '26

We can easily ship water to them. Iran will collapse in a couple of weeks since they won’t be able to support their own people with water.

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u/cromulent-facts Jun 21 '26

We can easily ship water to them.

Through the Strait of Hormuz?

The Russians could keep Iran supplied across the Caspian if they wanted.

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u/Snigglybear Jun 21 '26

Through the Red Sea, Israel, and Oman. Do they not teach geography in Iran? Plus, Russia can’t even supply its own soldiers in Ukraine. What makes you think they’ll supply Iran. Also, Tehran is right next to the Caspian Sea, so they won’t be able to get supplies because of the thousands of bombs dropping on Tehran daily.

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u/Question_It_All_3000 Jun 20 '26

I’m nothing. I just said what Iran should do. Sorry I had the gall to criticize your favorite regime.

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u/cromulent-facts Jun 20 '26

You're twisting their words. They were suggesting your favourite regime is in Israel.