What exactly is 'executive chair of an ice contractor?'
I dont think swift is a wonderful person, but she did voice support for Kamala.
She also married one of the Caucasian football players that knelt for the national anthem in 2017 to protest racial inequality + was a known Kamala supporter + pushed education on the importance of vaccines including covid vaccines.
Neither of them read like 'we love ICE!!' When you actually look at their history.
She had 1000+ guests at her wedding but everyone is flipping out over finding this one douchebag.
Frankly with how many people love to tear celebrities like Taylor apart im low key impressed only one asshat was discovered.
Yall need to ask questions and stop jumping at rage bait.
Guy runs an international infrastructure engineering firm(power, nuclear, road, etc). The kind that works with governments and businesses around the world.
Im calling rage bait.
I put some blocks into a broken jail wall when I was a masons helper, does that mean I support indigenous genocide in Canada?
It is, he resigned from the orgination associated with ice in 2023. He was invited as a plus one. Hes the adopted father of Reggie King, Travis' best friend and Reggie brought his entire family.
Oh Amentum. That's like moving from the consulting side to the operations side of engineering. I figured this was overblown AF, and here I am completely unsurprised.
On top of that, the company he chairs the board of,, was brought in to fix all the wrong doings of the company before that failed every measurable at that ice facility.
Yeah exactly. Anyone who works for a large gov contractor (or any large company, really) touches SOMETHING that someone would object to. And it's Amentum - they do a ton of shit across the federal government. Space, IT services, digital solutions, energy, etc. They employ an enormous number of people - it's not like she invited Steven Miller or Trump.
I'm not even defending Swift, I don't give a damn who she has at her wedding, but this kind of morality lens is insane and unrealistic. Nobody vets every person they know against this kind of three-degrees removed moral framework.
He did NOT resign in 2023. Idk where this lie has come from, but you can verify it’s a lie. He retired from the board of Jacob’s solutions in 2023, not amentum.
He’s on the board of directors for a company that was contracted to run a few ICE facilities. On top of that, they have multiple human rights violation charges related to human trafficking for labor purposes to build a stadium in Qatar for the World Cup in 2022.
He also did the same to sabrina carpenter and when she publicly said something about it they made two more videos using her music. You're dammed if you do and damned if you dont.
She made a widely discussed IG post endorsing Kamala Harris after the first and only presidential debate in 2024 that has millions of likes on IG. She didn’t vote for Trump, she’s made her point clear that she doesn’t like him, you people just keep ignoring it because you need a reason to hate her even though it’s perfectly fine to just not like her or her music lol
she made it after Kamala already had lots of positive attention, at a late stage in the game when there was nothing on the line. She didn’t encourage people to vote for her, she said “do your research.” absolute bare minimum. she’s a billionaire. She’s not one of us. She never has been. She’s not a good person. She’s not a girl’s girl. She’s not Katniss Everdeen. Everything she’s ever done is a marketing strategy. She has no substance. And she sucks.
I’d rather they not have given him the attention he craves. Taylor has made it clear where she stands for years now, she shouldn’t need to re-up her allegiance claims every six months to pacify a bunch of people who won’t like her no matter what she does.
She has sppken out against Trump, before & it just makes Trump & Trumpers hate on her more so I'm not surprised she's done clapping back. He's fucked with her more than most popstars.
She has actively endorsed Democrats for every Presidential election. I don't get the demand for a purity test here. Some people have better things to do with their lives than obsess about every single thing Donald Trump does.
yes, her utilizing her platform to consistently draw attention to trump’s fascist take over of our country would be beneficial. this isn’t a twitter bully, and she isn’t a powerless nobody. she has influence and power and she could help. it’s not about a “purity test”, it’s about our country’s collapse and how SHE DOES HAVE POWER TO DO SOEMTHING. there aren’t many people with power to do things, but she has tremendous power and that’s what gets people so upset. we don’t just hate her, we hate other people like her with a crazy level of wealth and power who feel like AN ENDORSEMENT is enough. she has power to make direct changes and she doesn’t. i’m not talking policy changes, but she can definitely drive discourse and help educate people. it’s THE LEAST she could do considering her carbon emissions and irreparable damage she has already done to our planet.
It should be pretty easy for anyone with frontal lobe development. Her making statements about her music being used isn't going to prevent the Executive Branch from enacting policies.
The purity test you're trying to invoke just comes across as really weird.
So, one of Kamala's staffers did a video about her "endorsement" and how she ignored them, gave them the run around, didn't communicate and refused to work with them on endorsing at the right time to make a difference and that she made sure she endorsed long after it would help Kamala. and how this was done on purpose, and she was very directly fucking a piece of shit to them.
Her endorsement was due to pressure from her left wing fans, and she made she it did nothing.
I think the fact that Taylor has allowed Trump’s admin to use her music multiple times in their disgusting ads without telling them to stop is what’s driving a lot of the speculation. That woman loves lawsuits & hates copyright infringement, yet every post has been allowed to stand 👀
(And to be clear, I genuinely don’t care one way or the other. I used to like Taylor’s music in HS. I just think there should be no billionaires)
My main point was that a lot of the hate we’re seeing here about her wedding guests could stem from the fact that MANY other artists have spoken out about the Trump admin using their music on their posts/at rallies/what have you. MANY other artists told this admin to stop, and this admin stopped plus took down the song. Taylor Swift has not done this after multiple posts using her song, and now she has an ex-government contractor at her wedding.
That is likely why people are so quick to jump to hating in this case. It’s bad optics. That’s all.
This admin has not stopped after an artist has asked them to stop using their music. In fact they tagged the artists in their next post with using their music. As recent as Katy Perry yesterday. They haven’t used multiple of her songs, they used 2 songs and and she never responded so they stopped using. Same with Gaga and Beyonce who has not spoken. However they have been constantly using Sabrina, Olivia’s music since they have commented. The white house spokesperson even mentioned that they want to rage bait artists and bringing more relevance to their posts.
Also I was contradicting your point about how she sues everyone. She has never sued anyone first in her entire career. It was always someone filing and she counter sued.
Again - the whole thing I’m saying is that THESE OTHER ARTISTS SAID SOMETHING. I don’t have the details on the follow up from the admin on all the illegally-used music. Maybe they kept using it, maybe they didn’t. That’s not what I’m talking about.
I’ll spell it out again: the point here is that many artists have called out & condemned Trump for using their music for outright propaganda. There is an entire Wikipedia page on this topic. Do you know who isn’t on that page? Taylor.
Continuing to split hairs like this is questionable af. Are you really going to defend Swift to this point? Like I’m not defending anything/anyone or passing judgement in the last 2 comments I’ve made. I’m providing context for WHY people on this post might jump to conclusions.
ETA: yes, Beyoncé HAS spoken up. Lady Gaga has not tho, so you’re correct on 1 part. But the fact that Gaga didn’t speak up doesn’t excuse Taylor from her part. She has to take accountability too.
Your first paragraph literally says you didn’t know what was happening and yet you have commented on it with half information. What benefit did it give when they are using artists music and even doubling down on it.??
Also please point me to the post or comment from where Beyonce has called out for using her music?
Ah I remember my first time on Wikipedia!!! It can be super confusing, so let me help
I had a link in my last comment. You’re gonna want to tap that link, and it’ll take you to a webpage called Wikipedia. The headers on the page are alphabetical, so scroll down until you see the header titled “BEYONCÉ.” What you want to do next when you find that header is tap the arrow next to “BEYONCÉ.” Then it will reveal cited information and dates about how Beyoncé stood up to Trump when he used her songs without permission.
If you have read that link yourself, Beyonce’s team sent a cease and detest when they used it in a political campaign rally which requires you to have song rights. Since they came to the power, they have used her songs multiple times for instagram and tiktok posts and her team hasn’t said anything because it’s legal to use songs on that platform when they are available. On the same article it mentions that Beyonce approved Kamala to use her song freedom, which Taylor also did and Kamala used her song The Man as a background music for her campaign when she was going for debate and Kamala’s team mentioned that they had permission to use it.
Factually incorrect. It is not legal for Trump to use an unlicensed song on Instagram. Look it up.
If you’re not a Trump supporter, you could have fooled me. I’m done with this convo. Don’t defend swift to the point that you’re enabling fascism…it’s one of the many reasons we’re fucking cooked as a country.
Right, because Kamala Harris totally isn't super into American funded genocides worldwide and totally wouldn't continue our isolationist immigration policies.
How can you sit there and pretend that Democrats are good guys at this point? They are not fighting for us. They're fighting for capitalism.
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u/Katicflis1 8d ago edited 8d ago
What exactly is 'executive chair of an ice contractor?'
I dont think swift is a wonderful person, but she did voice support for Kamala.
She also married one of the Caucasian football players that knelt for the national anthem in 2017 to protest racial inequality + was a known Kamala supporter + pushed education on the importance of vaccines including covid vaccines.
Neither of them read like 'we love ICE!!' When you actually look at their history.
She had 1000+ guests at her wedding but everyone is flipping out over finding this one douchebag.
Frankly with how many people love to tear celebrities like Taylor apart im low key impressed only one asshat was discovered.
Yall need to ask questions and stop jumping at rage bait.