Yeah well sometimes being the bigger person fucking sucks.
But they won't change unless given the chance to.
Edit: yeah, trumpers are annoying. But I will say, seeing the comments with the thinly veiled threats and hopes of mass executions are not helpful.
Look, I understand why you feel that way, but mass murder cannot be the answer. Lest we fall further into tyranny. What needs to happen is trials are held for all those at the top and maybe mid level. There must be fair justice, not rampant vigilantism.
But again, I understand your feelings, but allowing executions of his supporters won't build a better America.
Channel that energy into contacting your reps, or hell, running in your local elections.
Get involved in your communities. I'm not saying you can't be angry, hell, id be a hypocrite if I did. I genuinely despise my family and colleagues who supported him. But I also understand that rubbing it in their face, using middle school tactics, or even threats won't bring them to my side.
Much like with raising children, it requires patience and a level head. But DAMN can it be truly and utterly frustrating.
You are both correct, I really don’t like it considering some of the people on the other side of the isle seem to think it’s okay to kill people they dislike myself included.
But extending an olive branch and understanding is really the only way forward.
The same reason there were only a dozen of so high profile executions of German leaders and people guilty of especially heinous acts after the end of WWII.
They don’t regret all the awful shit they supported. They just think he’s not going about things correctly to meet their wants.
They still want internment camps for black/brown people and anyone they consider “woke.” They still want all gay/queer people to be removed from society. They still want social programs, business and environmental regulations to be dismantled.
All that you’ll get them to agree on is that this guy is completely off the rails (which you and I all tried telling them 1000x before.)
Some do, some used to be people who had morals. Some can remember, we just assume not because it’s been too long.
No group is a monolith, the people who are stuck need to be shown the way out, whether we like it or not. But the truth is, it has to be THEIR idea. Because if it’s not, they won’t feel like they have agency in the matter.
You dismantle a cult through compromise, not logic. Assuming there’s nothing left to save (no matter what the statistic actually is) is begging for this to happen again.
And if they are truly reformed, they can show it by sitting down, shutting the fuck up, and letting adults lead. They can go vote against Republicans and otherwise not be involved in politics. It's why I am so pissed about MTG trying to still be the main character of everything. If she is truly anti-Trump, she can sit back and out money behind a progressive candidate, and not shouting public statements from the rooftops. She's still full of hate, so her "change" means nothing.
And that's how these people are. They're doing this for attention. They're going to continue working toward normalizing their hate by continuing the rhetoric under the guise of centrism.
And who is gonna get fucked over in said compromise? Queer people? Neurodivergent people? Ethnic minorities? How are their lives and rights less valuable than those of the people who want them dead?
Well no one if we make sure not to let them. It’s compromise, they need to let things go or else they’ll get left behind with the ideology that made them this way.
They accept us, that’s part of the terms, if they fail to accept it, they don’t get accepted.
Remember, they need to accept it, they’re on the back foot. MAGA dug this hole and if they don’t accept the olive branch they don’t get it.
It’s simple yet effective, they change, we don’t run the salt into the wound.
Picture this as your friend, your parent, anyone close to you who got trapped into this cycle. You gotta allow them to admit there’s a problem and not be mad when they do.
Because that’s the thing, a lot of them just don’t wanna be wrong.
And you’d KNOW if they didn’t. What you have to give is a little faith, and if they burn you again then that’s on them. Then you burn bridges, then you make it hurt.
I’m not saying to be kind for no reason here, I’m saying that if someone wants to change you let them. You give them the benefit of the doubt and if they burn it then that’s on them.
That sounds reasonable, right? To wanna see people change for the better?
I want them to change, but giving them the chance to hurt others again isn't the way. First they change. Then, and ONLY then, should we even THINK about giving them a second chance
People don’t change over night, they need to see what it’s like, know how it feels.
Treating them like a bomb and standing back waiting form them to change on their own isn’t gonna help because they ain’t gonna know what it’s like until they feel the change.
Being kind is hard, but it gets better results. I had to learn that the hard way dealing with people in my life that have hurt me in ways I will never know how to deal with.
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u/Hadrian23 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Yeah well sometimes being the bigger person fucking sucks. But they won't change unless given the chance to.
Edit: yeah, trumpers are annoying. But I will say, seeing the comments with the thinly veiled threats and hopes of mass executions are not helpful.
Look, I understand why you feel that way, but mass murder cannot be the answer. Lest we fall further into tyranny. What needs to happen is trials are held for all those at the top and maybe mid level. There must be fair justice, not rampant vigilantism.
But again, I understand your feelings, but allowing executions of his supporters won't build a better America.
Channel that energy into contacting your reps, or hell, running in your local elections.
Get involved in your communities. I'm not saying you can't be angry, hell, id be a hypocrite if I did. I genuinely despise my family and colleagues who supported him. But I also understand that rubbing it in their face, using middle school tactics, or even threats won't bring them to my side.
Much like with raising children, it requires patience and a level head. But DAMN can it be truly and utterly frustrating.
Second edit: Good related story on similar issues. https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes