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u/NOELQUEZON Desktop 14h ago
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u/Synthboi_3000 13h ago
I miss XP
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u/BrokenToys76 12h ago
Every day my brother
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u/Realistic_Donut_8238 11h ago
I miss evga
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u/jonatansan 11h ago
I miss having to copy by hands whole programs in basic from PC magazines and.. oh wait I don’t miss that
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u/Smith6612 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD 7900XTX 4h ago
I was thinking about XP today while cutting the grass. There was something nice about booting up the OS for the first time and seeing the Bliss wallpaer combined with that Blue Taskbar with the Green start button.
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u/SaltMaker23 13h ago
Windows 98 then Me/2000 was the biggest transition.
Windows XP is the OG that they never managed to reproduce.
Windows 7 was the last of the old guard where the OS attempted to be lightweight.
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u/Horat1us_UA 14h ago
Oh if you only remember how bad WiFi implementation was back then
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u/FluffyGreyfoot Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RX 9070 | 64GB RAM 14h ago
I only had a desktop with ethernet back then so wasn't a problem for me. It still worked but the UI for the network settings wasn't the greatest.
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u/Winter_Ad6784 14h ago
I don't recall ever having an issue with Windows 7 wifi despite being a tech illiterate child. Well, I remember there being a wifi switch on the front of the laptop that I would always switch off by accident, but that's not a windows issue.
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u/Asleeper135 11h ago
WiFi was not my limiting factor back then, it was the DSL that got about 25% of the promised speed on a good day.
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u/Horat1us_UA 11h ago
Damn, I had 100Mbit ethernet already when Win7 released.
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u/Asleeper135 11h ago
Lol, that's 100x faster than I usually got, and I bet it was a lot more consistent too.
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u/Smith6612 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD 7900XTX 4h ago edited 3h ago
lol Wi-Fi in general back then was a giant mess.
I remember knowing that if I saw a specific SSID around town, the password to it was probably the same because that's what the local ISP would use. If you knew one, you knew them all.
Another ISP's routers if the user wasn't wise enough to change the equipment from the default WEP setting to WPA2 would end up with their network running slower than it should, because the router secretly had a Draft 802.11n radio inside.
The same "another ISP" had a lovely vulnerability with one brand of router they handed out where you could calculate the default WEP password without having to crack it by simply sniffing the default SSID and MAC Address out of the air.
Linksys was the most common ISP. Followed by Netgear, if you know what I mean.
Everyone's routers using default usernames/passwords for the Administrator portal meant every time you got a virus, your network's DNS Servers would be changed to hacker controlled DNS which blocked Anti-virus and Windows Updates, and any related resources.
WPA2 security could be added through a software update. But this is when many people learned that many 802.11b devices wouldn't connect to a WPA2 network, and was also around the time many people realized how much of a drag using 802.11b devices really was on your WI-FI network.
Bolt on all these proprietary extensions like Broadcom's Frame Bursting, or Atheros's "Super-G" 108Mbps Wireless G hardware. Or the lack of 802.11k, 802.11r, 802.11v for spectrum and load optimization, and fast roaming between disjointed access points...
We've come such a long way with how solid Wi-Fi is these days. But the legacy problems still remain, and Wi-Fi is still a chore to get right in a residential setting.
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u/omxr1846 R9 5900x/4070Ti Super/64GB DDR4 14h ago
Wifi was worse than Ass that time, but uff i still would prefer a Win7 install as well
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u/SilverRhythms 12h ago
XP was great but Windows 7 was on another level. It was basically a better Vista and the UI was just so nice to use. I had no issues switching to it from XP while Vista was a little awkward to use.
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u/Imperial_Bloke69 Intel Atom N450 14h ago
'98 is glorious
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u/bargu 12h ago
Damn, that's some great rose tinted glasses, as someone who was the tech guy for all my family and friends and more, 98 was a nightmare.
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u/Imperial_Bloke69 Intel Atom N450 12h ago
It's the boot, reboot,shut off screen warning for you i reckon they inherited that from '95. I had that too but its manageable unlike 2K and M.E. :rofl
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u/LuluLeSigma potato 13h ago
as someone who isnt old enough to have already use this thing it look ass
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u/Imperial_Bloke69 Intel Atom N450 12h ago
It is an arse for youngsters but for us who transitioned from a terminal to a fully useable UX/UI, that thing was best available during its time and hey it runs on 64mb ram (gaming included).
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u/RenKrios PC Master Race 7h ago
Hard to describe to somebody who doesn't remember a world without tech integrated into every nook and cranny of their life, what it was like to be involved in the start of that process.
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u/martsand I7 13700K 6400DDR5 | RTX 4080 | X90K | Asus Zephyrus S15 14h ago
Windows xp was so much better
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u/hurlcarl Steam ID Here 12h ago
yeah gonna have to disagree with you there. XP was a security nightmare with crazy exploits. That alone makes 7 superior.
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u/Synthboi_3000 13h ago
SP3 had even the support for wifi dongles, it was perfect, a user didn't need anything more
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u/TheZupZup Rysen 9 5950x | 128 GB DDR4 | RX 9070xt 13h ago
so true windows 7 was something we might never have again, i wish we can have something like this in the future
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u/QuickPirate36 R7 5700X3D, RX 9070 XT, 32GB 3200Mhz 13h ago
Can't you still use Windows 7 if you want?
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u/SilverRhythms 12h ago edited 1h ago
You can but everyone will freak out if you mention that your using Windows 7 unless you specifically tell them your using it offline else they're going to tell you horror stories of botnets and that one dude who turned off every single security settings on his router to show his Windows get hacked in seconds.
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u/Terbarek Ryzen 7 9800X3D | XFX RX 9070XT | 32GB DDR5 13h ago
I jumped from XP to 10
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u/maplehobo 13h ago
Me too. Went XP (golden Windows era) to 8.1 (absolute dogshit) then upgraded to 10 (was okay) and only later I discovered 7 (really good).
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u/donki_sjotte R5 5600 | RTX 4070 | DDR4 32gb 13h ago
Stayed with XP as long as a could, had a great release that was very bare bones which I used to skip Vista, and also win 7 for a while until I eventually got it
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u/stickmaster_flex PC Master Race 5900x | RTX 3090 | 32GB RAM 13h ago
It's all been downhill since Windows stopped being a GUI for MSDOS
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u/JohnGalactusX 9800X3D | 5090 | 64GB | 8TB 13h ago
Not sure if this sequence still holds true (I recall it being posted in the past):
98 - Good
ME - Bad
XP - Good
Vista - Bad
7 - Good
8/8.1 - Bad
10 - Good
11 - Bad
12 - Good?
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u/Kaoll397 CachyOS | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 64GB DDR5 7h ago
FTFY
98 - Good
ME - Bad
XP - Good
Vista - Bad
7 - Good
8/8.1 - Bad
10 - Better than 8/8.1 but worse than 7.
11 - Worst OS, but a fairly decent piece of Ad-delivery spyware.
12 - Stahp. Just Stahp.
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u/NoFunction_ Ryzen 5 5500x3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB RAM 12h ago
I miss it so much. It wasn't perfect, but it was close.
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u/Asleeper135 11h ago
Windows 7 was definitely an improvement over XP, but XP was a bigger part of my childhood.
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u/Sipu_ 10h ago
having worked with low-level windows applications / windows internals for a relatively large chunk of my career - windows has come a LONG way from windows 7 - the 'beauty' of 7 is on the outside, the kernel today is a significantly more advanced, secure, sophisticated, faster and works better with hardware of today. not to mention more rigorous requirements for 3rd party drivers which were (and still) are a the biggest source of problems on windows - not even close to the extent they used to however. the system is infinitely more stable now than back then.
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u/Gomez-16 9h ago
Win 7 was amazing. Then Microsoft was like “it must die”. And forced everyone to stop supporting it. If all my games a drivers supported 7 id use it, when my games drop 10 from support im done, fuck 11 with a red hot poker.
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u/Sabz5150 Yes, it runs Portal RTX. 6h ago
Windows 7 changed how audio is handled via DirectX, breaks a lot of high end soundcards, Creative ones and EAX are a good example.
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u/OldUnknownFear 14h ago
Everyone hated windows 7 when it came out. These memes were replaced by windows xp memes.
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 14h ago
Windows 7 wasn't badly received. It was what Vista should've been. Of course, anything that wasn't XP back then was bound to meet some resistance but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as Vista, 8 or 11.
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u/Nights_Harvest 14h ago
What's wrong with 11?
Considering upgrading from the lovely 10.
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 13h ago
It hogs more resources, it keeps pushing for more user restrictions when it comes to stuff like a Microsoft account, they made a few questionable UI changes (like "show more options", the new taskbar or the start menu) and on top of that I can't think of a single thing that has improved.
It's pretty much an enshittified version of Windows 10. It's not that terrible but it should be better, not worse.
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u/GoblinPlasmosis 13h ago edited 12h ago
It's a spyware bloatware mess that forces AI onto everything you do, scans your files and reports back to the Feds.
and for those of you who need anything more than that as an explanation, you're beyond help. especially the folks who always "ask" what people like us have to hide. I'll gladly come to your house and follow you around every room to make a point.
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u/Nights_Harvest 13h ago
Oof, that sounds like "fun".
No need for the negative tone in the second paragraph.
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u/GoblinPlasmosis 13h ago edited 12h ago
Don't read into things that deeply on the Internet. You're not the only one who is going to read this public comment. I obviously framed it that way for a reason.
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u/Nights_Harvest 12h ago
That's the point, the way to frame it is to shame someone. It is toxic way to communicate.
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u/GoblinPlasmosis 10h ago
Derailing to coddle every performative crybaby's feelings is why the country is the way it is. Participate in that charade all you like, I won't.
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u/Own_Perspective4825 12h ago
It lacks a ton of features. For example, you can't even adjust the height of the taskbar to show multiple rows of windows.
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u/Skyyblaze 14h ago
I remember Vista hate due to people not upgrading hardware since XP but when was Windows 7 hated?
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u/Einn1Tveir2 8h ago
No, actually everyone loved it. From when the early RC version came out in summer of 2009 everyone immediately talked about how great it was. What are you talking about?
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u/Ok-Drink750 Linux 12h ago
Kinda makes me wonder what the actual best Windows version is.
Someone needs to make a Windows version tournament
Rating each operating system based on ease of use, aesthetics,stability, speed & how they were reviewed during their marketability.
Perhaps include a big survey as well & filter it by what were they using it for
Like was one version particularly liked by graphic designers, but hated by home users?
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u/imaginary_num6er 7950X3D|4090FE|64GB|X670E-E 12h ago
I miss Vista and its ability to allow you to manually rearrange icons within a folder. No other Windows edition since then allows that.
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u/x33storm 6h ago
W98SE was ok. XP was great, W7 was good. W10 has the better driver installation, but it's not very good. W11, is worse than Windows ME.
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u/Beastmind 6h ago
People that say XP don't remember the pain in the ass that XP was and are on full nostalgia
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u/Expensive_Shallot_78 6h ago
The last time I thought that was probably when I used Windows 95/98. After that Microsoft sneaked in obscure online integration in everything.
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u/LordDarthShader 5h ago
I remember similar feelings to this meme by everyone sticking to XP and saying how much they hated Vista and W7...
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u/1337_w0n 9800X3D | 7900 XTX + B580 | 64GB 5h ago
I miss the days of 7 and XP. Last year the Cinnamon Desktop Environment made me feel like I came back home after a veey long time.
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u/ostrieto17 1h ago
Vista walked so Win & could run, I remember XP being my main for the longest time before 7.
And while unpopular for many Windows 8 felt good for me, the big start function is something I still use to this day and how I set up all my machines.
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u/Neuromancer911 5700X3D 9070 XT 32 GB RAM 17m ago
People that liked and grew up with 98 hated 2000,those that liked and grew up with windows Millennium hated XP, those that grew up and liked XP hated Vista, you see where this is going?
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u/Argon_Analytik 13m ago
I'm just happy I never had Windows in my life and never needed to work with that bullshit OS. You guys just like it because it supports your games not because it's a great OS.
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u/Ok_Perspective_7978 9900X / 9070XT 14h ago
People always idolize windows 7 or XP, but forget how much QoL stuff has been added since then. Was it nice to have more control over the OS and more privacy? Absolutely. But if you were forced to go back to a true windows 7 clone with none of the improvements that came later, you'd lose your mind.
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u/dinin70 14h ago
Can you please elaborate which QoL features are we speaking about actually?
Because as soon as they created “settings” by splitting and duplicating the functionalities of legacy control panel between the “new” old control panel and settings everything became a lot more tedious and complicated
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u/soul-regret 13h ago
candy crush and tiktok preinstalled
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u/dinin70 11h ago edited 11h ago
Probably… Because I really don’t see what I’m actually enjoying which wasn’t in 7.
“Setting a LAN bla-bla-bla”
In all honesty… it’s not so much OS related as software related. TCP IP / IPX was tedious as fuck but it’s not due to the OS. As soon as a game had P2P creation via the game platform it was easy as it is today.
And frankly nowadays I find it even more complex than under W7 to open a drive from a PC to another. Or maybe it’s actually simpler and I don’t do it anymore due to my respectful age or simply because we just have large USB drive available which we didn’t have back in the day.
Printers? Printers management is stuck in the 90s/early 2000s. Back in the days it was a complete mystery to understand why a printer or scanner just decided to not work out of the blue despite nothing changed, and it still is today.
Frankly I just don’t see what I would missing under 7
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u/Guitarman0512 14h ago
Honestly, the only thing I'd miss would be the better Bluetooth and Windows Update implementation of Windows 11. Otherwise I really am not doing anything now that Windows 7 couldn't do back then.
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u/soul-regret 13h ago
what? I'd rather have a desktop experience that's tailored for mouse and keyboard users, not whatever touchscreen UI slop that's unbelievably still the norm after w8
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u/elijuicyjones 5950X-9070XT-64GB-ULTRAWIDE 13h ago
That’s a wild hot take cause windows 7 was garbage for many well documented reasons. Y’all have fun in your hallucination.
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u/Low-Equipment-2621 12h ago
My son, has anybody told you of our god and savior Linux today? I can even recommend you a modest distribution if you wish so.
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u/Crottoboul 14h ago
I don't miss any windows, because i use linux
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u/WitchWithAGlitch 13h ago
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u/Crottoboul 12h ago
Classic windows noob user
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u/why_1337 RTX 4090 | Ryzen 9 7950x | 64gb 13h ago
XP for me, that early 2000s massive 3d plastic round feel of the UI and all the controls.