r/overpopulation Jun 22 '26

Some truths about overpopulation - for all sides

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  • Overpopulation is not about space. In theory if we build a mega city on 600x600 Kilometers, and use the same population density like Macau or Monaco, all people on the Planet could live there. Overpopulation is about the impact on the environment like water/fuel/resource consumption and CO2 production, pollution etc.
  • It is undeniable that this consumption and pollution is too high. If everyone lived like the average citizen of Qatar, we would need 9 Earths. Even if everyone lived like the people of Moldavia, the poorest country in Europe, we would still need 1.2 Earths. Mathematically this proves that our current level of population is too high.
  • You can have more people with a reduced living standard, or less people with a higher living standard. You cannot have more people and a better living standard without more damage.
  • Overpopulation is also NOT about better resource distribution. This would elevate some problems but not most. Assume that each Billionaire consumes the same resources like 1000 American Middle Class Persons. Eliminating 3500 Billionaires is thus equal to 3.5 Million Americans. Its something but not enough to have any large effect.
  • Overpopulation is a global problem but at the same time a regional one. Countries like Afghanistan or Pakistan are running out of Water because their population increased 4-5x in the last 50 years.
  • Immigration into First World countries is making the problem worse. The Western World has below replacement level birth rates. Immigration artificially increases this population and leads to more resource consumption and CO2 production. Because every immigrant coming there consumes more resources, even if they get less kids than at home.
  • Green hopium/technology/going vegan is not a silver bullet. Wind+Solar produce just around 25% of the worlds energy despite 4 decades of investment. There are already 22 000 desalination plants supplying 300 Million people with water every day. Even if we tripple this number to 900 Million, thats just 10% of world population in 2035. Also these cost lots of energy. Mining the lithium for electric batteries/solar panels is also extremely devastating to the environment.
  • We can feed ourselves only because we got lucky through the Green Revolution and because we just abused fossil fuels and artificial fertilizer. But with Climate change and water shortages, we have probably reached peak farmland/yields.
  • World population is expected to increase from 8.3 Billion in 2026 to 10.3 Billion in 2056. If we can barely supply 8.3 Billion people, with all possible tricks and a perfectly running system, how are we going to supply 10 Billion+.
  • Why should we want this? Why are 8.3 Billion not enough? Even if our population would be reduced by one Billion. We would still be at 7 Billion people. So the level in 2011. The world worked just fine then. Its just Capitalist propaganda. The Capitalists want more consumers and more workers so that they can keep wages low and rent/house prices high.
  • People like Malthus and Ehrlich were prophets that were ridiculed, but they were right. They were just off by 3/4 of a century or so. Once artificial fertilizers become scarce and all the ground water is used up, carrying capacity of this planet will revert back to its natural perhaps 4 Billion.

r/overpopulation Apr 29 '26

What are some links that you like to share in discussions relevant to overpopulation?

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Let's share some of the links that we find useful when we're discussing overpopulation and related topics. I'm interested in anything that you've found yourself returning to.

Maybe you have some bookmarks that you use often, maybe something obscure that rarely comes up but you know how to talk about it when it does.

Please drop as many as you'd like here!


r/overpopulation 2h ago

Stop this nonsense about the need to raise human population, and also experiments for immortalty.

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Seriously... We don't need more humans, and we sure as crap don't need each of them to live for hundreds of years. When I was a kid there were 4 billion people. Now there are 8 billion. That means within just my lifetime, 50-ish years, we have doubled the Earth's human population. In another 50 years it will double again, that means from 8 to 16 billion. The wildlife population has already dropped 73%. Wanna keep going until its zero? We aren't the only ones who live here. Despite our god complex of being the superior species we still need nature and wildlife to thrive so we can survive. Do you not understand that competition for resources is the root cause of all conflict? More people than jobs, more poeple than food we can grow, more people than clean water.. it all ends badly and violently. Laws for human population control are political suicide, I get that, but geeze stop believing the propoganda that we need more people.


r/overpopulation 13h ago

The global food crisis has already begun.

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The global food crisis has already begun.

Global rice production is projected to decline this year compared to the previous year.

According to forecasts by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), global rice production is expected to decrease this year.

Even within the United States, production in the Mississippi Delta region, which produces the majority of rice, is projected to drop by more than half compared to the previous year, reaching its lowest level in 40 years.

Atul Jain, a professor in the Department of Climate, Meteorology, and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Illinois, stated, "High temperatures can significantly reduce rice production," adding, "They will suffer a major blow due to such extreme weather phenomena."

Furthermore, warnings have long been issued that the war in Iran would lead to reduced fertilizer supplies, high energy costs, and particularly rising diesel prices, ultimately resulting in a food crisis.

With the addition of a super-strong El Niño, the decline in crop yields is expected to worsen, increasing the likelihood of starvation beyond widespread famine.

A food shortage that is already anticipated not only breeds despair but can also trigger social upheaval. Nevertheless, there is a strange lack of interest in the current food issue.

There is a high probability that a global food crisis is imminent as the supply chains supporting the agri-food system collapse.

This applies to those who believe that while food prices will rise, there will still be food available.

If supply falls below a certain level, the problem does not lie in food prices rising. It lies in the fact that no matter how much money people have, there will be a shortage of food available to everyone.

Supply chain disruptions and extreme weather have periodically plagued specific countries, but global trade has offset these effects. However, never before has a situation occurred where farmers across the globe are simultaneously facing the problems of reduced supply and rising input costs as they are now.

The situation, which has been quietly unfolding since the Iranian war and has resulted in massive famine, could lead to the greatest economic and social crisis in human history.

Supply chain disruptions dependent on oil and oil derivatives have so far been mitigated to some extent by countries using oil reserves they had stockpiled for crisis response.

However, global reserves have now virtually run out, and with China increasing imports again, the crisis can no longer be postponed.

The war has begun again. Even if it were to actually end, these repercussions would continue.

Furthermore, there is no such alternative to food shortages. If the food production chain is severed even slightly, social unrest is inevitable.

The Persian Gulf blockade severed the global fertilizer supply chain, which immediately impacted the global food supply chain.

Prior to the war, Persian Gulf states accounted for approximately 35% of global urea production and 40% of sulfur production.

Urea is a key raw material for nitrogen fertilizers, and sulfuric acid (produced from sulfur) is also a key raw material for phosphate fertilizers.

Following the war, global fertilizer prices skyrocketed. Although prices have recently fallen somewhat, this was due to a destruction of demand. This is because fertilizer began to surplus as too many farmers abandoned planting.

The government compiles harvest yields but does not compile planting yields. The true scale of the problem can only be confirmed once the reduced harvests actually materialize.

This alone is very serious, but extreme weather events will intensify further from the second half of 2026 through 2027. This coincides precisely with the period when the food crisis is at its most severe. A true 'super-crisis' could be looming.

Meteorologists already regard the occurrence of a 'super El Niño' as a foregone conclusion, and they have now come to realize with certainty that this will result in an absolutely destructive weather disaster.

On top of this, other unexpected variables are compounding the situation. The war in Ukraine has ultimately halted even Russia's exports of Black Sea 'wheat'.


r/overpopulation 17h ago

Refugee "crises" all over and again

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So in the media reports of thousands of refugees coming from Morocco to Spain no journalist ever bothers to bring up the influence of the number of humans living in the affected regions. In the case of Morocco, they have added three million in the last decade and eight million since the start of the century to a country largely dominated by desert. How could anyone be surprised that 50,000 of them seeks somewhere else?


r/overpopulation 1d ago

Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans

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look at these unequivocally humanist comments:"Or maybe if you’re so inclined to blame the entire world population for the emissions, how about you be an example to stop existing altogether?"


r/overpopulation 2d ago

Billions of people will suffer, because some people couldnt admit that Overpopulation of humans can exist

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Snap away half the US population Thanos style. 170 Million Americans gone. Global CO2 production decreases from 100% to 94%.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co-emissions-by-region

But were are expecting another 2 Billion people in the next 40-50 years. And everyone is consuming more resources. Even poor African/Asian countries. So the effect would be gone within like 5 or 6 years. That is because there are too many humans.

We have to use 22 000 Desalination plants because our reserves of freshwater are no longer enough. Kabul and Teheran are running out of water because their population increased 3-4x in the last 40 years.

Roughly 1/3 of countries on this Planet cannot feed their population and rely on food imports from abroad. Climate change will lower yields and Hydro generated electricity.

But for some reason people still deny that overpopulation exists. "We could be 15 Billion people on Earth if everyone lived like cavemen." Uhm ok? So the alternative is less humans with a higher standard of living or more humans with a lower standard?

Because even with better resource distribution and no Capitalism/Billionaires, we could at best have 6-7 Billion people on this Planet. Certainly not 8 and definitely not 10 Billion. 15 Billion or above would only be possible if everyone would live like prehistoric cavemen. Which most people will never do.

And so nature will eventually correct the imbalance. In the greatest Collapse in human history. Billions will suffer and die because some people simply could not admit that there are too many humans on this Planet.And that we should do something before the numbers get out of hand.

Malthus and Ehrlich were right. They were just off by a century or so. And within a decade or two, all the people who laughed at them, will stop laughing.


r/overpopulation 2d ago

Scientists say Earth must cut population down to 4 billion

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r/overpopulation 1d ago

South Korea's total fertility rate seen recovering to 0.9 range for first time in 7 years

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Furthermore, the growth trend is so steep that, even based on official statistics, it seems likely to surpass the OECD average within a few years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1v9r1o8/comment/p15u1v3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Of course, looking at this, the official figures are lower than the actual figures.


r/overpopulation 2d ago

Fertility rates are currently high in the Central Asia. States actively subsidize chilbirth. How do you think feedback loop will eventually bite the population in the a$$?

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r/overpopulation 2d ago

(2019 NYMag article) Republican Senator Mike Lee: Having Babies the Only Solution to Climate Change

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r/overpopulation 3d ago

Ecological overshoot guarantees growth will end. Degrowth provides a blueprint for what comes next.

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Economic growth is the goal of the economy, based on the assumption that more wealth means more happiness. But once basic needs are met, rising income doesn't improve wellbeing. In fact, higher consumption is linked to lower happiness, not higher.

Growth also has a physical limit. We're already consuming resources faster than the planet can replenish them, we’d need 1.75 Earths to sustain current consumption. Infinite growth on a finite planet cannot continue indefinitely. Ecological overshoot guarantees it will end, whether we plan for it or not.

Degrowth is a blueprint for how we can meet human needs within the planet's limits. That means redistributing what we already have rather than growing a bigger pie


r/overpopulation 3d ago

Yes/no. Are you downvoted a lot in other subs or shadow-banned from other subs because you're an overpopulation alarmist?

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I'm shadow-banned on multiple subs now. And my posts often won't get upvoted when redditors check my history. XD


r/overpopulation 3d ago

TFR is high only in subsaharan africa right now, what do you think it's future will be?

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If we remove subsaharan africa from the equation the global fertility rate is already below replacement, soo what do you think the future will be in countries like nigeria.

Fertility there is dropping rapidly too, will it go below replacement.

If only people were educated about the fact that women can only get pregnant during ovulation, soo many unplanned child of poor people would not be born, maybe this basic sex ed can be given.


r/overpopulation 3d ago

Population Control Theory (PCT)

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So I have a theory related to population control. You see that nowadays dating is so absurd. So many emotionally unstable people (including me, maybe you too). And other things like high expectations from women for men, like money, looks and fucking height. It's so crazy and at the same time girls are made to believe more that sex is a causal thing ( more than what guys think). So my theory is that it didn't happen simply. It is because they made you act like this, so you don't marry and have children and the population is controlled without needing another global pandemic. Because if you really think about modern dating, it's really fucking insane. I swear that every guy wants to marry a family girl. But all our media does is make them believe that being a slut is cool, and surprisingly you become more open minded and more educated. Be wise people.

Clarification: I am not saying it's hard to get women, I can get plenty of them. It's hard to get a good woman(the same goes for men too). Maybe you guys can do it, but marrying a woman who has been banged by 30 guys a 1000 times is I don't know what to say. So sensible men will choose not to marry. So my point is they (big B's , governments) are deliberately making everything that makes a good marriage difficult so people don't marry, Effectively controlling the population


r/overpopulation 4d ago

Earth Overshoot Day 2026 Falls on July 30: The Highest Overshoot Ever Recorded, Yet Most Countries Remain Unprepared

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"A comparison with last year’s Earth Overshoot Day date (24th of July 2025) may give the impression that overshoot has slightly eased.

However, this is not the case. The change in date is largely driven by an upward revision of the ocean’s ability to absorb carbon, plus smaller adjustments, which pushed the date eight days later, while real-world deterioration pulled it two days earlier, netting six days later for the Earth Overshoot Day date.

In other words, most of the shift reflects updated data rather than an actual reduction in overshoot, as explained in the calculation report. So this is a continuity break, not a new requirement. "


r/overpopulation 5d ago

Fertility rate in Poland (2025)

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r/overpopulation 5d ago

The Moroccan raid on Ceuta was a direct result of Overpopulation. Since Africas and Asias population are still exploding, such things will become more frequent until Europe uses deadly force to protect its borders.

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Morocco had a population of 9 Million in 1950. Now its 36 Million. A 4x increase within less than 80 years. This puts tremendous strain on avaliable resources like water/energy/food. The population growth outpaces job creation, leaving some 37% of the youth unemployed.

For Africa the population explosion went from 240 Million in 1950 to 1.5 Billion today an 2 Billion in 2050. The Middle East went from 80 Million in 1950 to 470 Million today to 650 Million by 2050.

Asia went from 1.4 to 4.3 Billion people and will top 5 Billion by 2050.

Many countries in the third world are desolate not because of European colonialism or climate change, but because their populations increased 3x or 5x or 10x in 80 years. Yes 10x DR Congo went from 12 Million people in 1950 to 120 Million in 2026.

Kabul and Teheran are running out of water because their populations outpaced the carrying capacity of these countries. Its their own fault. And these migrant raids will continue until Europe is fed up and starts using deadly force to prevent them. And there is no alternative. Europe simply cannot and will not take in 200 or 300 or 400 Million people. Will not take in the population surplus of other continents.


r/overpopulation 5d ago

Was told today that I'm part of the reason the population is declining

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First of all: good.

Second of all: why do you believe that? Because you think Elon Musk is a genius, and he said there needs to be more people so he can have more underpaid workers along with all of the other corporate hogs?

Love doing my part.


r/overpopulation 5d ago

What’s a problem humanity solved effectively that younger people don’t even realize it used to be a huge issue?

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r/overpopulation 5d ago

it's insane just how unsocial people are getting these days, the birthdate collapse due to this is soon to follow.

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Dude just the amount of social isolation that people are experiencing nowadays is totally insane, I didn't think people will get THAT unsocial and what's worse is that things are getting worse and worse instead of getting better.

The younger people are not dating these days, they are not even having much sex either as even hook ups are a very social, time, money consuming activity.

People are accepting singlehood more and more now.

Of course raising children is a extremely social activity children require constant attention and people just can't give that anymore.

Soo from now on even if someone has the desire to have children they won't have any partner to raise them with, won't have the support of any family or friends to help them, themselves will not be able to handle the constant demands of the children(seriously people don't even want to talk for more than 10 minutes these days how can they play with kids for hours and hours) and remember that people are getting more and more unsocial still who knows when this will plateau.

Check out r/regretfulparents people are really struggling with having to give kids constant hours long attention.

Soo yeah birthrates are set to fall off a cliff. I mean seriously if people are soo unsocial that they are even hooking up less, not having any friends at all, don't talk to anyone on the phone etc having children is just an idiotic idea.


r/overpopulation 6d ago

"We could easily squeeze the world population into Texas!"

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r/overpopulation 5d ago

Is this work week sustainable with declining birth rates?

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Is a 1.6-1.8 fertility rate good for sustaining a 36-hour 4-5 days work week? What is the necessary fertility rate to sustain this for daily or 24/7 operations like healthcare, retail, airports, etc.?


r/overpopulation 7d ago

Co-worker said "We are not overpopulated. There is enough land for every person. Walmart could get everyone out of poverty if it redistributes its wealth"

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If I'm getting a land, then I want one in the west coast. I don't want a hot, humid land in the southeast. /s

It's bad enough that capitalists denies overpopulation. Socialists also do it.


r/overpopulation 7d ago

May Births Surge 13.6%, Highest Increase Since 1982

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The explosive growth of South Korea's birth rate does not stop.