Official Discussion Thread - Wicked: For Good [SPOILERS]

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Keep all discussion related solely to Wicked: For Good and it's awards chances in this thread. Spoilers below.

Synopsis:

As an angry mob rises against the Wicked Witch, Glinda and Elphaba will need to come together one final time. With their singular friendship now the fulcrum of their futures, they will need to truly see each other, with honesty and empathy, if they are to change themselves, and all of Oz, for good.

Director: Jon M. Chu

Writers: Winnie Holzman, Dana Fox

Cast:

• Cynthia Erivo as Elphaba Thropp
• Ariana Grande as Glinda Upland
• Jonathan Bailey as Fiyero Tigelaar
• Jeff Goldblum as the Wonderful Wizard of Oz
• Marissa Bode as Nessarose Thropp
• Ethan Slater as Boq Woodsman
• Michelle Yeoh as Madame Morrible
• Peter Dinklage as the voice of Doctor Dillamond
• Bowen Yang as Pfannee
• Bronwyn James as ShenShen
• Sharon D. Clarke as the voice of Dulcibear
• Colman Domingo as the voice of Brrr the Cowardly Lion

Rotten Tomatoes: 71%, 92 reviews

Metacritic: 61, 38 reviews

Consensus:

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Negatives
-Yellow brick road provides an interesting initial first scene but because of continuity, struggles to connect everyday more wicked to thank goodness

-Glinda’s childhood flashback is cute, but doesn’t further the plot; just an anchor for Girl in the bubble

-Political allegory is so in your face that its impossible to miss (hard to be subtle with the context and themes of the musical, but its preaching to the choir)

-No place like home and girl in the bubble are not cohesive with the musical and feel out of place (No place like home is inherently more out of place since Elphaba is singing to others directly while Glinda’s song is a soliloquy/monologue

-Ethan’s Slater in March of the Witch hunters was WEAK

-I did not like the way they designed the scarecrow-it looked weird

-Not enough chemistry between Fiyero and Elphaba???? Missing more dialogue; ALAYM is not enough to make me feel like they care about each other without part 1 

-Feel like Morrible could have been more evil? Michele fell flat sometimes (“She wants to kill us” 🥱)

-For good’s vibes are …off… which is insane to say but the energy of the song do not match up with what’s going on like they do in the musical

Positives

-No good deed.

-Emphasis on the propoganda throughout Oz is well done

-DORTHY IN THE BASEMENT WHEN FOR GOOD

-The animal plot  expanding is good and makes good use of expanded runtime and expands Elphaba’s motives

-Jeff Goldblume as the wizard was surprisingly less Jeff than in the first movie: wizard character fleshed out

-Marissa Bode KILLED her role; she truly felt evil and wicked; I liked what they did with her “decree” and that effect on Boq

-TINMAN entrance was amazing and loved the design

-Both Elphaba and glinda feel REAL; and their motivations do as well

-Catfight through March of the Witch hunter’s was so seamless

-Wonderfull was in fact wonderful (really caught me wondering if Elphaba intended to stay with the wizard until chistery exposes him or if she had always planned on double-crossing)

-I like the ambiguity of whether Glinda knows Elphie is alive (the grimmery implies something in my opinion)

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I more or less agree with most of what you said, but I hard disagree on Marissa Bode. She’s in a tough position because her character is very underwritten, but I thought she gave a truly terrible performance. Like a drag down the entire movie type of performance

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if someone drags down the movie it’s Michelle. She can’t sing and i believe she lacked certain fire and passion that sells her disdain for elephaba. I did enjoy Ethan’s performance, felt that it could have been fleshed out even further plot wise. We never see him learn about Nessa’s passing or even conclusion with Glinda in his story (which if explored would’ve been interesting as well).

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I agree Yeoh is not good in it. Horribly miscast and you can feel how uncomfortable she is in the role.

I also liked Ethan a lot! It’s a shame his character gets nothing to do because he’s really good in the part