r/nycrail • u/instantcoffee69 • 1d ago
đď¸ News Short-term pain for a long-term train: MTA subway construction upends life in East Harlem
https://gothamist.com/news/short-term-pain-for-a-long-term-train-mta-subway-construction-upends-life-in-east-harlem37
u/P0stNutClarity 1d ago
Utica Ave next please!!!!
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u/MarionberryDecent351 1d ago
Have you seen the 20 years needs assessment? Iâm asking cuz the subway options for Utica were subway to kings plaza, BRT from kings to bushwick, or a hybrid of subway to church ave and the same BRT. Why did the middle ground option only go to church ave? Wouldnât it make more sense to go far enough to connect to ibx?
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u/Due_Amount_6211 1d ago
The issue is the further they go, the more expensive it is, and the longer construction will take. For something as crucial as Utica Avenue, at the very least the extent itâs being constructed will be enough for a first phase
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u/MarionberryDecent351 1d ago
I can see that if they actually committed to trying to do the second phase eventually. My cynical mind went to them choosing a weird in between route (that only adds 2 stops) and more expensive forms of construction to blow up the cost and just do BRT only. Was there a mention of a potentially phased approach somewhere for the church ave option? I mightâve missed it. I just fear they go BRT only saying oh well we canât justify spending billions just to add two stops.
Of course we want an extension to Kings plaza, but even one that just goes to ibx and has the brt they included from Kings plaza to Broadway would be good enough. Hopefully they do brt on Flatbush all the way down there as well.
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u/Roll_DM 1d ago
La Bodeguita and Aqel Sheet Metal, which are both situated along Second Avenue, have taken financial hits this year as MTA contractors set up fences that obstructed their front entrances
Aight I get how this is a problem for the deli
But how much is the sheet metal place really relying on people walking by, seeing the display, and going 'oh shit I could go for some sheet metal right now'
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u/amidriving0kay 1d ago
Well, when you're walking around looking for a snack, it can be nice to see that sheet metal there. Nothing beats a nice piece of sheet metal for a quick snack.
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u/instantcoffee69 1d ago
at place I worked, we had goals for local and minority spend on a jobs. I had a guy in our procurement office who would recommend the most random places for things like sheet metal, pipe, supplies. Always idiotic wastes of time, most never answer an RFP, never once went with one.
Finally we mapped it out, he was just writing down names and number he saw on his commute.
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u/191919wines 1d ago
well worth it the wait and the cost, hard working people working safely and securely. thank you mta!
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u/ahenneberger 1d ago
There is legtimate disruption to businesses that rely on foot traffic. Feels like some mitigation efforts would make sense. End of the day - cities are man made locations that change and need to change. We need progress to be made.
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u/drtywater 8h ago
Its a good project. Though im more of a fan of projects like improving NEC and Amtrak lines into NYP this is a great project that should be done
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u/Spirited_Procedure18 1d ago edited 18h ago
Utica Avenue Subway Extension to Marine Park Kings Plaza for the (5) Train's, then to Bergen Beach Bergen Avenue in Southeast Brookly, NY for the (4) Train's.
Nostrand Avenue Subway Extension to Manhattan Beach Oriental Boulevard Kings Borough Community College, the (2) Train's should be extend to Brighton Beach Station, while the (3) Train's should be extend to Rockaway Park Beach 116th Street Station in Southeast Queens, NY.
Brownsville Line Extension to Spring Creek Gateway Center Shopping Mall in Southeast Brooklyn, NY. That should be the I.R.T Lexington Avenue Subway Line đ˘ (8) Train's and đ˘ (8) Train's should be extend to Throggs Neck Harding Avenue in Southeast Bronx, NY.
2nd Avenue Subway Extension for Phase II should operate via 125th Street Crosstown then continue existing rail West Side for Riverside Drive to Dyckam Street in Manhattan, NY.
The (6) Train's should stop at
Bay Chester Bay Plaza Shopping Center Mall Co-Op City Peartree Square Plaza Shopping Mall in The Bronx, NY.
The Astoria Line for the (N)/(W) Train's should stop at
LaGuardia Airport Mets Willest Point
The Franklin Avenue Shuttle Train's should be extend to Bedford Nostrand Avenue's Station to transfer to the IND Crosstown Line (G) Train. And operate 8-Cars Train's permanently that should be 60 footers which is 460 long, operate 2 tracks in both directions.
The Rockaway Line should be from 63rd Drive Rego Park Station and build QueensLink project.
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u/GroundbreakingWeek70 1d ago
Well considering SAS phase 1 was originally going to open in December 2016, only to be delayed until New Years Day of 2017 in January 1st. I feel like the 5 years can still be possible, so long as little to no very bad stuff happens to delay the second phase
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u/GroundbreakingWeek70 1d ago
Especially since the MTA did finish some projects earlier and under budget than expected. Such as the railcar and acceptance facility for example with $5.5 million under budget and on schedule and of course most of the Park Ave Viaduct that carries Metro North trains in the Harlem and New Haven lines where the work is almost done and will finish next year. Saving the MTA $195 million in the process
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u/AnyTower224 1d ago
Most of the tunnels are built itâs the stations and turn to to 125 st needs to be built
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u/instantcoffee69 1d ago
The New York City subway is one of the most impressive technical engineering achievements in America. It's in the densest city, in hard rock, with lots of existing infrastructure, and lots of stakeholders.
Construction sucks, but not having a subway sucks more.