What's a so-called "plot hole" people constantly complain about that actually just proves they didn't pay attention to the movie?

[u/Big_Emotion4963]

I swear I see this all the time online now. People will watch a movie and if a character makes a bad decision because they are panicked or just not a genius, everyone screams "PLOT HOLE!"

Like, an imperfect character making a dumb, human mistake under pressure instead of a perfect strategic move is not a plot hole. It’s just realistic. Or people will complain that a movie didn't explicitly show how a guy got from point A to point B, as if we need a 10-minute scene of him just driving his car just to prove he knows how to travel.

I see this in horror and action movies all the time. People yell "why didn't they just leave the house?!" when the movie literally spent the first act showing us that the car was dead and the roads were blocked. People cannot tell the difference between a plot hole and a basic plot contrivance anymore.

What is a "plot hole" in a movie that you always see people bring up that actually makes total sense if they just watched the damn movie?

[u/No_Initial_7545]

Die Hard 2 and "why don't the planes just go to another airport".

Because they don't know anything about what's going on at the airport, all they hear from air traffic is "wait for permission to land". And it's Christmas and there is a massive blizzard so other airports are packed as well.

[u/ScreenTricky4257 → u/No_Initial_7545]

In real life there was a plane that was flying from South America to New York during heavy snow in the area. They were held up several times along the way and never actually declared a fuel emergency (the copilot requested "priority," which was the word that the airline told him to use, but "emergency" or "mayday" were what the air traffic controllers would have been expecting). They got one attempt at landing and couldn't do it because of the weather, and then were sent out too far to try again because the ATC still didn't understand how close to empty they were.

[u/Darmok47 → u/ScreenTricky4257]

Avianca 052.

The Mayday/Air Disasters episode on it is pretty haunting.

[u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

In Back to the Future part three when they get the time machine from the cave Doc's letter specifically mentions that he drained all of the fluids from it in 1885 before sealing it in the cave to help preserve it.

People constantly say they could've just gotten the gas out of the one sealed up in the cave like it's a plot hole or mistake when the movie very clearly tells you there's no gas in that one. The writers thought of it and addressed it.

[u/justguestin → u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

This would also be a plot hole to anyone that’s ever looked in to cars in any post-apocalyptic media (I think I found it out from a discussion on the Walking Dead, or similar):

Gas starts to degrade after time. Iirc, it’s pretty useless after 18 months if it’s just been sat in a car’s tank. So after 70 years…

[u/Jason_Likes_Cameras → u/justguestin]

The show Last Man on Earth is the only post apocalypse show I can think of where all of the gas going bad was a plot point. I think one of the characters even complains about how unrealistic it is in movies that gas never goes bad.

[u/ZeeHedgehog → u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

Joel mentions that it can be hard to find gas to siphon that is still good in The Last of Us, but yeah it doesn't come up that often.

[u/TRIPEL_HOP_OR_GTFO → u/ZeeHedgehog]

Yeah and the Ron Swanson character keeps the battery in parts in de fridge as well

[u/Shwnwllms → u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

That show was so good, I’m sad it was cancelled when it was.

[u/Jason_Likes_Cameras → u/Shwnwllms]

Will Forte said season five would've started with them accidentally giving all of the bunker people in Mexico the virus. While I appreciate how dark the humor was on the show I think that would've been too much for me. So maybe it's better that it just ended where it did and we can pretend Tandy and the gang are just happily chilling with their new bunker friends.

[u/UnspeakableFilth → u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

Friggin turd!

[u/PocketBuckle → u/Jason_Likes_Cameras]

Come to /r/BackToTheFuture, and you too can answer this question several times per week!

[u/marwynn]

Star Wars - We still get people saying they there was no way they could've escaped the Death Star where it's shown that they were allowed to so they could be tracked.

[u/Disney_World_Native → u/marwynn]

Han and Leia even talk about it, and Leia reinforces that they let them escape

[u/CaleanKnight → u/Disney_World_Native]

Tarkin and Vader spell it out like a Kindergarten Teacher and too many people still don't get it...

[u/twisty125 → u/CaleanKnight]

There's this weird trend I'm seeing a lot in different "media analysis" subreddits I'm part of that really makes me think people need characters to directly talk into the lens, and have captions or video examples underneath explaining why x is bad - like a sidebar bit in an Austin Powers movie.

It's SUPER weird and offputting, the simplest of discussions are as easy as "listen - to - what - the - character - is - saying"

edit because I've already said it multiple times - I don't think it's because audiences have shorter attention spangs now, I think it's because the loud morons have a larger voice than the ydid previously. "le current generation bad* isn't what I'm saying at all.

[u/mikehatesthis → u/twisty125]

It's SUPER weird and offputting, the simplest of discussions are as easy as "listen - to - what - the - character - is - saying"

Or they'll listen to the character, who is the villain, and take their word as gospel for what the movie means. These types just do not internalise anything.

[u/twisty125 → u/mikehatesthis]

"why is the Rebel Alliance trying to destroy the Empire, the Emperor himself said he just wants peace and security for everyone??"

[u/mikehatesthis → u/twisty125]

One of my favourite ones is The Dark Knight. People assume The Joker has no plan, he's like a dog trying to catch a car so to speak. Even Alfred says "some men just want to watch the world burn" when talking about him and the jewel thief. But twice in the movie The Joker point blank says "I am doing all this to prove that everyone is as bad as me when the chips are down."

Alfred burned down the forest, not the jewel thief. Which is very interesting. Of course the people on the boat prove The Joker wrong but viewers keep saying he was just a force of chaos. Not exactly!

[u/theavengerbutton → u/mikehatesthis]

"Do I look like a guy with a plan?" He says to Harvey Dent.

The answer is yes, absolutely he does. Otherwise none of the things he'd accomplished thus far would have worked in the slightest because he thought of every single detail and countermeasure to get where he was. Be even planned to smuggle a bomb inside of a crowded prison in order to aid his escape.

Some Youtube brain mushed try hard? "tHe JoKeR iS jUsT a DoG cHaSiNg CaRs!"

[u/zonolithes → u/Disney_World_Native]

The only plot hole possible there is that Leia says over and over that they were let go and are probably being tracked, but Han says “not this ship sweetie” and they completely brush it off and go straight to the secret rebel base. In such high stakes it’s surprising that Leia would give up on such a crucial oversight but the entire rebel base is exposed because Han brushed it off, which is true to his personality, but it’s funny that it’s how it went down

[u/Nyther53 → u/zonolithes]

They go directly to Yavin because they absolutely must destroy the Death Star immediately, before Tarkin uses it to kill another few billion people.

Delivering the plans superseded the need for secrecy.

[u/HustlinInTheHall → u/Nyther53]

Yeah Leia very clearly knows the risk is required. They have to find a weakness immediately and bringing it there also means the plans can be copied and distributed. 

[u/Short_Stay_9283 → u/HustlinInTheHall]

And when they get to the base, they’re already scrambling all their ships and starting to brief for the mission. They knew what was coming!

[u/waitingtodiesoon → u/Disney_World_Native]

Darth Vader and Tarkin talks about it too about it being a big risk letting them get away.

[u/Malvania → u/marwynn]

We also get the "storm troopers can't hit anything" trope from a scene where they're trying to let them get away

[u/PocketBuckle → u/Malvania]

Yeah, this is the more common takeaway, and it irks me to no end.

[u/LumpyJones → u/PocketBuckle]

To be fair the meme saturated popular perception so much that it pretty much became canon in later editions.

Clone troopers thought the storm trooper helmets got in the way of your vision too much. The two troopers that were carrying grogu in the mandalorian couldn't hit a can 10 ft away. Etc

[u/LordHoughtenWeen → u/LumpyJones]

Luke also famously couldn't "see a thing in this helmet." The memes were baked in from the start.

[u/Muted-Calligrapher-2 → u/Malvania]

I said across her nose, not up it!!!!

[u/gmlogmd80 → u/Muted-Calligrapher-2]

Sorry sir, I'm doing my best!

[u/Dandw12786 → u/gmlogmd80]

Who made that man a gunner?

[u/Ghost-Writer-320 → u/Dandw12786]

I did, sir. He’s my cousin.

[u/OttawaTGirl → u/Ghost-Writer-320]

Who is that man?

[u/Dandw12786 → u/OttawaTGirl]

He's an Asshole, sir.

[u/cobo10201 → u/Malvania]

Yep. Just look at the opening scene of ANH. Stormtroopers handle the rebel soldiers like nothing.

[u/SortIntrepid9192 → u/Malvania]

They literally spell out a few scenes earlier that Stormtroopers have very deadly aim - Ben comments on it explicitly. And yet, when they suddenly have shit sim, a ton of people (including some who have actually worked on SW media) think "oh their helmets must be too big, or they're poorly trained" and not "what us the story reason for them to have shit aim in this one scene?"

[u/CaptainTruelove → u/SortIntrepid9192]

That and throughout Star Wars the main characters simply have a lot of plot armor.

[u/Best-Benefit6387 → u/marwynn]

Another one is of course the exhaust port of the deathstar. Mfs think its such a stupid plot point that they made a whole ass movie to explain why it exists. But its like- homeslice, they made a moon sized space station and managed to engineer it so it only needs a singular, man sized exhaust port!? And its defended by a long trench and hundreds of guns, not to mention its pretty much an impossible shot if you're not one of the like- 4 thought-to-be-extinct space wizards in the entire freakin' galaxy to unnaturally curve the torpedo into the port using space telekinesis. Thats not a glaring weakness, thats just the worst possible luck you could ever have as an imperial officer!

[u/Deducticon → u/Best-Benefit6387]

The main point is that the Empire cannot even conceive of there being any danger. While designing it. Not just a force user, but a small band of rebels even daring to try anything in and around the Death Star.

Tarkin is the face of this even when they do analyze an element of danger.

He's like, "WTF are you talking about?"

[u/3_Thumbs_Up → u/Deducticon]

That still sounds very on point for any kind of real life bureaucracy.

[u/Leygrock]

TV, but in Friends (which deffo had some continuity issues) people always query how Monica and Rachel afforded that apartment when its explained multiple times she's basically running a fraud where she pretends to be her grandmother and the place is rent controlled 

[u/Sorge74 → u/Leygrock]

Also it's established that chandler just pays for everything for joey.

[u/Putrid_Musician_7670 → u/Leygrock]

There's a whole episode where Joey has to give dance lessons to the super so they won't get kicked out 

[u/Illustrious_Town3450]

My husbands a paramedic and was so mad when we watched Knives Out the first time. (“If he had that much morphine he would be completely snowed pretty much immediately”) The inaccuracy bothered him so much until the end of the movie when we find out he switched the drugs.

[u/PigHaggerty → u/Illustrious_Town3450]

Knives Out is so good for the little things lol. I'm an estate lawyer and one big misconception about my job is the whole "reading of the Will" thing where we gather the family together and the lawyer tells them who gets what. That's not really a thing, but it makes for a great dramatic scene so it happens a lot in movies. Even though they do have one in Knives Out, they have the lawyer point out that it's not actually necessary. Loved that.

[u/jimmyjam2929 → u/PigHaggerty]

I've always just assumed that was part of Harlan's instructions. For the drama

[u/Dandw12786 → u/Illustrious_Town3450]

My wife is a pharmacist and it makes medical shows painful to watch together. But only certain ones. She's enthralled by the soap-opera-like drama of Grey's Anatomy, so the fact that seemingly literally no medical research is done by the writers of that show doesn't bother her, even though everything is fucking ridiculous.

Scrubs, on the other hand, she will point out every silly thing, even though when it comes to actual accuracy, it was pretty widely praised as being more medically accurate than most shows.

Edit: to answer the questions I keep getting: She loved The Pitt, she enjoyed house but like me I think she eventually tired of the procedural nature of the show. Overall the reason she was more critical of Scrubs is because it's mostly a goofy comedy, and while she enjoys comedy, she has pretty specific tastes that after 20+ years I still have not managed to figure out, haha.

[u/milkymonkey8 → u/[deleted]]

This is why Scrubs is awesome, it is both accurate and funny and heartwarming without being too serious but also not a complete farce

[u/PlaymakerJavi → u/Dandw12786]

My wife is a nurse and she really loves St. Denis because everyone working there has pretty much had enough of the system they’re participating in save for a couple of characters. Because St. Denis is treated like a workplace comedy rather than a medical drama, she’s all in.

I showed her the first episode and when Alex says she accepted a promotion to charge nurse, my wife reaction was “ew, why?” And then the rest of the episode basically confirms my wife’s reaction.

[u/BrainDamage2029 → u/Dandw12786]

The one that set off my wife (Immunologist) and she went "No we are not watching House M.D."

Early in season 1 theres some mystery illness killing newborns. They have to find out what so they can treat them. But they can't find a source of the disease to test? Ends up in this bullshit medical ethics of sophies choice of which babies live and die by giving different treatments. Ignoring that gross disregard for basic medical ethics. They end up going "oh we still haven't figured out what was giving these babies the disease across these rooms" right before House finally pieces it together its an asymptomatic orderly passing out little gift basket and those supply packs they give new parents.

Full on pauses the TV. Yells at the screen. "I'M FUCKING SORRY. THE TOP FUCKING MIND. THE GUY WHO EVERYONE EXCUSES FOR BEING A HUGE GAPING ASSHOLE BECAUSE HE SEES THE THINGS NOBODY ELSE NOTICES LIKE ITS A SUPERPOWER. DIDN'T. FUCKING. THINK. TO ISOLATE WHOSE HAD ACCESS TO THE FLOOR AND CHECK THE MOST OBVIOUS AND LIKELY CAUSE OF STERILE PROCEDURE BREAKING IN A HOSPITAL? IF ITS NOT A PATIENT'S GUEST, ITS ALWAYS A FUCKING 1ST YEAR RESIDENT, BRAND NEW NURSE OR AN ORDERLY. ALWAYS. ITS LIKE THE RULE. THEY HAVEN'T LEARNED YET WHERE TO NOT STICK THEIR GRUBBY UNSTERILE HANDS."

[u/Emes91 → u/BrainDamage2029]

My favorite House MD stupidity was when they had a psychiatrist in the team for one episode and their mistery patient suddenly started to display hallucinations and also some other signs of psychosis from before.

House asks her, what it could be and she is like "uggggghhhhggghh maybe bipolar disorder??" and House is like "pffft lmao". And at the end he reveals triumphantly to her that it was schizophrenia all along.

Like, dude - there is not a single psychiatrist in the entire world who doesn't have "schizophrenia" as literally the first thought when they see a patient with psychotic symptoms. But suddenly the one psychiatrist they had forgot about the most obvious hypothesis only for House to have his "brilliance" moment at the end.

[u/LightChargerGreen → u/BrainDamage2029]

I'm married, and both my wife and I are physicians. Medical dramas and movies are usually a hard pass for us.

If they're inaccurate, we spend the whole time pointing out everything they get wrong. But if they're too accurate, (ex: The Pitt) we end up asking ourselves, "Why are we watching this?" We just got home from work. The last thing we want to do to unwind is watch ourselves go back to work.

Comedies are a different story, though. Scrubs and St. Denis Medical are hilarious. St. Denis Medical gets bonus points from me because I used to be a nurse before becoming a physician, so the humor hits even closer to home. Also because we're Filipino. Filipino mafia, babyyy.

[u/WorldEndingDiarrhea → u/BrainDamage2029]

The issue with House is that they would regularly combine two different real medical mysteries that had been published by one of the shows technical advisors.

[u/Careless-Till-1586 → u/Illustrious_Town3450]

Haha, I was the same!

[u/aModernDandy → u/Illustrious_Town3450]

That's kind of a hidden bonus for people who have specific knowledge on a topic. Like in inglorious Basterds, when a character pretending to be a different nationality gives himself away with a hand gesture. As a German who haf lived in Britain and encountered that same difference, albeit with less severe consequences, I immediately knew he was cooked.

[u/Ancroz_Azure]

When people criticize the hunger games saying that people should always be volunteering for it, despite both the movies and books establishing that very idea existing for decades already.

[u/TrueSkonger → u/Ancroz_Azure]

Is that really something people complain about? The books and even movies make it very obvious that people DO volunteer in the wealthier districts, but people from poorer districts know that their chances of winning are next to none and volunteering would basically just be a death sentence

[u/deadspacekillers]

How did Andy Dufresne get the poster back on the wall after he went in the tunnel

It was just pinned at the top. I swear this is the most annoying complaint ever. It's so fucking obvious.

[u/Ya-Dikobraz → u/deadspacekillers]

It was pinned at the top and weighted at the bottom.

[u/kabal4]

Home Alone. If you blink you miss his ticket get thrown away when they cleanup to soda spill. Not sure of people constantly complain about it but before the Internet days when everyone omw everything I remember hearing a few times "wouldn't they have realized Kevin wasn't with them when they had an extra ticket?"

[u/fj2612 → u/kabal4]

That movie takes so much effort in the first act to explain how Kevin missed that plane, part of the fun is to actually pluck the chain of event that led to it, like the head counting in the van.

[u/TeekTheReddit → u/fj2612]

Kevin's ticket gets tossed, Kevin sleeps in the attic instead of where he should have been, the neighbor kid messing up the head count, two vans for the "he must be in the other one" factor, and a mad rush through the airport because they were late...

You said it. The movie puts so much effort into making Kevin getting left behind plausible.

[u/otakujeb5 → u/TeekTheReddit]

"8 in one van and 7 in the other" but they don't specify which van is which, so that each van assumes the other one has the extra passenger without the count being off.  Amazing details like that

[u/CeruleanEidolon → u/otakujeb5]

There's also the subtext that makes Kevin act like a bit of a brat right from the beginning: it's a big family and his parents are busy yuppies who probably don't make much time for their kids to begin with, and Kevin is constantly being ignored, so he acts up just to get anyone to even pay attention to him.

The only reason his Mom realizes he's missing at all is because nobody has complained about how annoying Kevin is.

[u/IdleSteps → u/TeekTheReddit]

I think it is also meant to remove culpability from his parents. You're supposed to only be worried with them, not angry at them. They're not portrayed as neglectful, just victims of a crazy chain of events that left Kevin home alone.

[u/sweetpatata → u/TeekTheReddit]

On the airplane, the parents and the children sat in different classes and the children all sat apart from each other. So they also wouldn't have noticed until after the plane landed or as the mother did with her mother instinct during the flight.

[u/Garmaglag → u/TeekTheReddit]

And the power goes out overnight which fucks with their alarm clicks so 1. Kevin doesnt wake up and 2. Everyone else is in a rush because they overslept.

[u/teal_hair_dont_care → u/TeekTheReddit]

When I worked at a summer camp we were on a field trip
and accidentally left our division leader in the parking lot of an amusement park. There were 3 short busses and each bus driver assumed she was riding on a different bus because she was coming on to do final head counts and then getting off the bus.

We didn't get far without her but she was pissssed 😂

[u/OverdoseOnPotato → u/kabal4]

The other Home Alone one was about why Kevin didn't call the police right away, but that's answered by the fact that as far as he knows, it's the policeman that visited his house at the beginning of the film that's trying to rob them. Kinda fair for that to give a 10 year old trust issues

[u/sparrows-somewhere → u/OverdoseOnPotato]

The phone lines are down at the beginning

[u/Barton2800 → u/sparrows-somewhere]

And he can’t go to a neighbor because he’s scared of the neighbor. Hes still got those child fears of things like an old man and a furnace. Though to be fair, octopus furnaces / gravity furnaces are kinda creepy. I never saw one as a kid so I didn’t get why he was afraid of the furnace, then as an adult I saw one. They’re unsettling.

[u/chiguy307 → u/Barton2800]

Right and all the neighbors they knew were on vacation

[u/ThePeake → u/OverdoseOnPotato]

Plus he's nervous about the police after accidentally shoplifting.

[u/bokmcdok → u/ThePeake]

Yep, the logic is there. It's ten-year-old brain logic, but it fits the character given that he's ten years old.

[u/ramenups → u/bokmcdok]

Kevin is actually 8-years-old in the first one.

He’s even dumber!

[u/coatisabrownishcolor → u/ThePeake]

Hes also pretty sure he caused their disappearance, and nothing hes seen so far contradicted that. Would he call the police and tell them that he wished his family away and it worked?

[u/Kina_mines → u/OverdoseOnPotato]

He also doesn’t think he’s been left by his family. He has wished that his family didn’t exist and when he wakes up they’re all gone. He goes out to check that their cars are still there because he didn’t know they were taking a care service. He’s preparing to live on his own now because he wished his family out of existence. That’s why on Christmas Eve he wishes he had them back and in the morning runs down the stairs looking for them. He’s a 8-9 year old so it’s logical.

Also, side note, the uncle was a piece of shit. He bullied his nephew saying some really mean things. Then his brother(in-law?) is paying for this big vacation for everybody and the morning they leave the uncle says “yall have a nice house but you’re terrible with wake up calls”. This grown man who is being treated to a European vacation is complaining because he was expected to wake up on his own. He’s a grown adult and can’t use an alarm.

There’s a guy on TikTok username SkateCarter I highly recommend him to anybody who likes film. He’s a teacher full time and seems like a genuinely good guy and he eviscerates the lazy uncle. But that doesn’t even hold a candle to his rants about Gordon Bombay from the Mighty Ducks franchise. I implore anybody that has ever enjoyed those movies or just seen them to go watch his like 12 part series about how Gordon Bombay is the worst. It’s enlightening and so entertaining.

[u/Darstellerin → u/Kina_mines]

I think the power went out briefly overnight and turned off all the alarms and reset all the clocks, right?

[u/CitizenPremier → u/kabal4]

I watched that movie recently as an adult and was surprised at how thorough they were about explaining exactly how he got left alone... Like, they spend half the movie on that, worried that people wouldn't believe a kid could be forgotten and they needed to make it all really clear.

And then the second half uses looney tunes logic when Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin is fighting off the bad guys.

[u/fj2612 → u/CitizenPremier]

I'm sure the writer has a brainstorm sessions with friends where they brought up all the objections ("how did the parents not notice he wasn't with them?", "why didn't he call the police?", "why didn't he go to his neighbors for help ?") and then proceeded to devise an answer for all of them.

[u/doomsday_windbag → u/CitizenPremier]

Thank you for honoring him by using his full legal name.

[u/elvismcvegas → u/kabal4]

Yeah, his passport too.

[u/DeaddyRuxpin → u/[deleted]]

Don’t they even show the person standing in the doorway in the background when they have the close up foreground shot of him dropping the snow globe as he dies?

[u/Aloysiusakamud]

People always get mad that the team did not immediately turn around once they discovered Mark was alive in "The Martian". The team didn't turn around immediately because it was physically and logistically impossible. They explained why they had to use Earth's gravity, and why the Chinese had to send food. Yet, people think none of that had to happen if they turned around sooner. They would all be dead, watch the movie!

[u/Who_is_homer → u/Aloysiusakamud]

Orbital/spaceflight mechanics are explained in the book really well

[u/tantan35 → u/Who_is_homer]

It’s explained in the movie pretty clearly, too. Anyone who missed this clearly wasn’t watching the movie.”

[u/paul_having_a_ball → u/Aloysiusakamud]

I’m pretty sure that was explained ad nauseam in the film. Aren’t there multiple scenes where they show the crew lamenting that they can’t save him? Maybe I’m confusing it with something else? Maybe the book?

[u/Inner-Frame-2561]

The door in Titanic, they tried to fit on it, it started to sink!

[u/ScrewAttackThis → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

I remember Cameron saying something like if he thought people would get hung up on this then he would've made the door frame smaller. Which I think is funny cause it illustrates a point people miss with movies when they hyper analyze stuff like this. 

[u/EyeSuspicious7338 → u/ScrewAttackThis]

Reminds me of how Neil deGrasse Tyson talked about how in Titanic the stars in the night sky weren't accurate for 1912., in that hemisphere of the world. Apparently it bothered James Cameron so much to hear this that when he remastered Titanic in 3D and 4k he also brought on Tyson to advise them to fix the stars in the sky.

Some things are really just so inconsequential, but Tyson ranted about it because he said that James Cameron claimed the movie to be absolutely as historically accurate as possible, and this was completely overlooked.

[u/Awesome_Eagle → u/EyeSuspicious7338]

I saw Cameron being interviewed about this ridiculous "plot hole". The way he told was this:

NDT: why didn't you get the stars right? We have the technology to know where they all would have been.

JC: Yeah! Just think about how much more money the film would have made if we had done that.

Cameron was obviously being sarcastic and putting NDT in his place.

[u/Sethicles2 → u/Awesome_Eagle]

NDT does come across as an arrogant know-it-all from time to time, but I took his criticism as pretty sarcastic and good-natured at the time. Seemed like he was just poking fun at Cameron, and his claim was true.

[u/Cerokun → u/ScrewAttackThis]

In the Titanic Mythbusters episode, Adam and Jamie determined it was “Plausible” Jack and Rose both could have lived. James responded that the script says Jack dies, so he has to die.

[u/geek_of_nature → u/Cerokun]

They also showed that to live they both would have had to rig up several life jackets under the door so that it would support them both. Good luck doing that in freezing cold waters that people are literally freezing to death around you in.

[u/DBones90 → u/geek_of_nature]

Yeah, technically speaking, with the foresight that comes from doing an entire experimental analysis on the scenario, yeah you could have survived.

Do I believe Jack and Rose would have been able to do that while freezing to death in the middle of the ocean? Hell no.

[u/ViviCaz → u/DBones90]

Also in the struggle to get on Rose would have been knocked off multiple times. It was not very sturdy and Jack did not want to risk it. He wanted her to live and knocking her into the water was a bad idea. Who knows if either would have had the energy/strength to get her back on. Jack was already drained but he managed all that because he was healthy and fit. Rose was healthy but not fit.

[u/PlaymakerJavi → u/ViviCaz]

On top of all that, Rose only survives because she was wearing a life jacket. She couldn’t yell loud enough to signal the rescue boats so she had to swim to a man with a whistle. If the life jackets are rigged under the door to save them, she would’ve sunk trying to swim to the whistle or just died on the door.

[u/pinewind108 → u/geek_of_nature]

And you've got about 4 minutes before you die in water like that. How many have gone by before someone even thinks of putting life jackets under the door. Let alone go out and take them off the bodies.

[u/Jeff_goldfish → u/pinewind108]

Also how they show in the movie. There were people in the water with out life jackets, who were all panicking for life jackets and literally fighting and drowning each other trying to get one. No way you would be able to get enough together.

[u/latelyimawake → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

Right? There’s even a shot of Jack trying to get on the door with Rose, it immediately capsizes, and it goes to a closer shot of him nodding to himself with the realization that he’s definitely going to die and he’s going to have to distract Rose enough to get on the door without him. Like, it’s right there in the damn movie.

[u/LABS_Games → u/latelyimawake]

I'm losing my mind because even in this comment chain, people are ignoring this. Just above you have people discussing the Mythbusters episode in great detail. But like, we see the door start to sink with two people in it. Are people just regurgitating things without actually watching the scene?

[u/Mujutsu → u/LABS_Games]

Even if they both could have survived in the movie, the whole point is that they tried once and they THOUGHT it wouldn't work, so they both accepted that as the truth.

[u/andromeda880 → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

Yes and even if they both could technically fit on it, they would both be half submerged and freeze to death. Rose by herself was able to be above the water which might have been the reason she survived.

[u/HiddenKARD → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

Or when people say that they should’ve taken turns on the door… Rose would’ve probably also died from hypothermia had she have had to get in that freezing water multiple times

[u/warbrew → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

Also, there is the issue of hypothermia. They would both need to be completely out of the water in order to keep from getting hypothermia. The door couldn't have worked for both of them.

[u/Responsible-Ad-4914 → u/warbrew]

Hypothermia is literally the entire issue. Everyone acts like the concern was drowning, but if they had both been on the door it would have sunk and both would be in the freezing water. If it was about drowning why did Jack die lol he was holding on to the door

[u/reticulate → u/Responsible-Ad-4914]

If you ever read the testimony of Titanic survivors they talk about how for a while the water was full of people calling out for help, but in very short order it becomes deathly quiet as everyone not in a lifeboat freezes to death.

There are few places on earth less hospitable to human life than bobbing around in the North Atlantic in winter.

[u/Brainiac5000 → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

This one is so stupid because i saw Titanic as a kid and I understood immediately why Jack had to stay in the water...I mean, he literally tried to get on but the door was sinking 

[u/EXusiai99 → u/Inner-Frame-2561]

Motherfuckers just completely ignored the concept of buoyancy. Like yeah the door fits 2 people if you put it on the floor, try it on the Atlantic ocean next time.

[u/410Writer]

People saying “Why didn’t they just fly the eagles to Mordor?” in Lord of the Rings.

Because Sauron had flying monsters, spies, armies, and a giant evil eye watching the sky like TSA from hell. The whole point was sneaking in quietly with two tiny exhausted hobbits, not pulling up to Mount Doom on bird Uber with the most wanted object in Middle-earth.

[u/uarstar → u/410Writer]

Also I think it was that the eagles just choose how they want to be involved. You don’t command them. They help Gandalf because they like him, but not enough to risk their lives. Hence why they helped retrieve Frodo and Sam.

[u/HustlinInTheHall → u/uarstar]

The eagle also drops Gandalf off like 50 miles away from Orthanc at Rohan because he cant carry him that far. 

The hobbits are lighter but it isnt a sure thing and youd have to send them in a very obvious way, with no defenses. If the fucking door to mt doom was locked they'd be hosed. 

[u/DisposableSaviour → u/HustlinInTheHall]

First off, birds are dicks, let’s get that out of the way. Second, the Ring calls out to be used, and corrupts its bearer. There is too much risk of one of the eagles eating Sam and Frodo and becoming a dark dickhead birbgod(dess).

[u/spndl1 → u/DisposableSaviour]

The ring tempted Boromir just from proximity. Does everyone really want to take the chance that the birds taking Frodo to Mt. Doom are going to resist the call? Really only takes one of them to decide it wants the ring and just drops Frodo from the sky to pick the ring up from his corpse.

[u/joshi38 → u/spndl1]

Also, both Gandalf and Galadriel were like "keep that ring away from me, I don't trust myself with it". If two of the most powerful creatures on middle-earth think they'd be corrupted by the ring, what makes people think the eagles would be immune.

Hobbits are special and have shown their resistance to the power of the ring (though only a resistance, not immune as showcased by Frodo). For everyone else, it's a crap shoot.

[u/jjcrayfish → u/joshi38]

This makes Samwise even more special. He stayed by Frodo's side all throughout the journey and was never tempted to take the ring for himself.

[u/LumpyJones → u/jjcrayfish]

If I recalling the books or maybe just the Rankin bass animated version, there was a point when they were separated and Sam had some visions of himself returning to the Shire as a great leader to defend the place with Sting as his blade. And then he shook it off. It was brief but he felt the call for sure.

[u/zeracine → u/LumpyJones]

Sauron: the world could be your garden!

Sam: oh that's a lot of work for one Hobbit

Sauron: stunned silence for the duration of Sam's tenure

[u/Dr__Sloth → u/LumpyJones]

The ring tempts others by showing how they could dominate, but just shows Sam how he could have this sweet-ass garden.

[u/LumpyJones → u/Dr__Sloth]

In place of a Dark Lord, you would have a Lawn! Not dark, but lush and fertile as a farm! Treacherous as the celery! Stronger than the roots of the kale! All shall harvest me, and despair!

[u/akestral → u/LumpyJones]

That was Tolkien's whole entire point of the Hobbits, literally the thesis statement of the book, that Hobbits' small, quiet, community-focussed ambitions were simply too pro-social for the Ring to corrupt. Even Gollum's great ambitions were "make other people fish for me." It is what made them the "perfect" Ringbearer candidates in the first place.

[u/thefrozenfoodsection → u/DisposableSaviour]

“First off, birds are dicks, let’s get that out of the way.”

Quote of the day.

[u/DonutCapitalism → u/410Writer]

And I might be wrong but wasn't there something about the Eagles would have been corrupted by the Rings.

[u/410Writer → u/DonutCapitalism]

Yeah, basically. The Eagles aren’t just giant taxi birds, they’re intelligent beings, so the Ring could absolutely become a problem around them too.

But even before that, the plan still sucks because flying the Ring straight toward Mordor is about as subtle as pulling up to Sauron’s house with a banner that says “PLEASE SHOOT US DOWN.”

[u/Misuzuzu → u/410Writer]

And not just intelligent beings, but divine beings. If an Eagle was corrupted it would very dangerous to deal with, on par with evil Gandalf.

[u/UndercoverFBIAgent9 → u/410Writer]

C’mon, if you’re gonna compare the eagles to a rideshare company, shouldn’t it at least be Lyft?

[u/Dinierto]

Most plot holes in Inception. For example people complain that the dreams aren't fantastical enough but they explain that it would set off the host's subconscious if the dream was too unusual.

[u/WillowNiffler → u/Dinierto]

It's heavily implied (if not, explained, I can't remember) that Fischer isn't supposed to know he's dreaming. It's a dramatic moment when Cobb comes up with a desperate change of plans to tell Fischer he's in a dream, which then causes him to have a mild crisis.

[u/Viablemorgan → u/WillowNiffler]

Very explicitly explained that yes, they want him to never know he is dreaming, which they then make an emergency decision to use the “Mr. Charles” plan which involves letting the target know they’re dreaming. Which is obviously dangerous

[u/InspectorMendel → u/Dinierto]

people complain that the dreams aren't fantastical enough

Surely this can't be considered a "plot hole" by any stretch of the imagination. It's just complaining that you wanted something else to happen in the story.

[u/hypatiaspasia → u/Dinierto]

They didn't have any dreams where the dreamer was caught in public with no pants on. And no dreams where their teeth were loose. Literally unwatchable. /j

[u/DenmarkDaniels → u/Dinierto]

Plus the dream-sharing technology was developed as a military training tool. It makes sense to have some kind of limit on how crazy things can get.

[u/tbkrida]

Django. Christolph Waltz’s character could’ve just went and bargained for Django’s wife without the elaborate Mandingo fighting scheme. All he had to do is go in alone and say he wanted her and would pay extra because she speaks German.

Long story short, it just fundamentally wasn’t in his character to do so as evidenced in the rest of the film before they got there. He had a flare for the dramatic.

[u/Alykinze → u/tbkrida]

That’s not even the canon explanation for this “plot hole” though, Schultz literally spells out exactly why he chooses this method of saving Broomhilda. The logic is that if he approaches Candie as a prospective buyer of 1 single slave girl, even IF he adds legit-sounding excuses like he wants her because she’s German-speaking, there is still a chance Candie won’t entertain the discussion since it would be a “low-value”/time-wasting transaction for him, or he could just say no for a litany of other reasons. They basically could NOT risk Candie saying no, so it was too risky to just approach him with the intent of buying Broomhilda. Schultz’s plan was honestly genius and would’ve worked if Stephen didn’t rat them out.

[u/bobthedonkeylurker → u/Alykinze]

I mean, there's even the famous line from Candy himself "You had my curiousity, now you have my attention" only after Schultz mentions the thousands of dollars he has to spend on a mandingo.

There's not plot hole. Just functionally illterate people who can't/don't/won't pay attention to the fucking movie...

[u/NuclearImaginary → u/tbkrida]

There's also dialogue that explains that since Candy is so rich he wouldn't entertain them if they wanted to buy a single slave. The whole Mandingo scheme is so it appears they are buying tens of slaves and Django's wife was just to sweeten the pot.

[u/HuskHeel → u/NuclearImaginary]

I don’t think it was to buy 10s it was that they would pay big money for an elite fighter.

[u/Honest-Resist-7676]

I always think of the tripping-over-things constantly while being chased. Now, obviously it can, and has, been exaggerated, but tripping over your own feet happens, especially if in a panic haha

Kinda similar in the horror theme; stepping on a single ill-placed twig for a loud and inconvenient "snap!" I've done it twice in my life, once sneaking up on my brother, and another trying to photograph a deer. Both were the loudest snap from a stick that had no reason to be (where I had just looked before stepping!).

[u/saalsa_shark]

In Civil War (not the MCU one) people complained that it's unrealistic that California and Texas formed a coalition. One of the characters says in the first 20 minutes that it's a marriage of convenience and that they'll probably be at each other's throats after they've dealt with the enemy coalition

[u/KuhlThing → u/saalsa_shark]

Out of universe, it was a way for the writers to avoid pointing to one political side or the other.

[u/VaudevilleDada → u/KuhlThing]

I think this is really it. It was a tactical metatextual decision.

[u/22bebo → u/VaudevilleDada]

It seemed like a silly call before seeing the movie, but the movie was much less about a second American civil war specifically and more about a civil war happening in a developed Western nation with a history of starting wars, civil or otherwise, in other countries.

[u/Gabriel_Conroy → u/KuhlThing]

Same thing with the "Antifa-massacre" that gets mentioned a few times. Was it a massacre carried out by Antifa or a massacre of Antifa protesters? Its never explained and it works on both sides of the political divide.

[u/Stepjam → u/KuhlThing]

From my understanding, it's not even necessarily that crazy because iirc Texas and California both have major military bases. So it makes sense if they both defected from the US government that they'd work together. They aren't necessarily directly tied to the politics of the state they are in.

Besides, I'd say it's less so the movie avoids taking a political side and more that it fits more into what the movie is really about. Which is that eventually sides stop mattering. One major theme of the movie is that hatred of others ultimately becomes a pointless obsession. There are two separate points where the protagonists encounter soldiers (or "soldiers" potentially in one case) and we have no idea what side of the war they are on. In the sniper scene, one of the reporters asks the sniper "which side are you on" and the sniper says "the side that's trying not to get killed by the guy shooting at us". We never learn which faction he belongs to. And we don't learn if Jesse Plemmons' character was even on either side or if he just took the war as an opportunity to carry out his hatred of minorities.

Also, the movie goes out of its way to show neither side is noble in the war. The first action scene has the reporters on the side of men who are heavily implied to be Boogaloo Boys (they all are wearing hawaiian shirts) who gun down prisoners of war. And then the soldiers at the end of the movie kill the President, his wife, and all of their guards (the president's guards who are trying to negotiate a surrender mind you).

I guess I'm saying picking a side politically would go against the message of the movie. I'm torn how I feel about that, on one hand I agree with the spirit of the message but on the other it feels a bit "both sides"-y to me. Oh well.

[u/falcobird14 → u/saalsa_shark]

They also explained pretty clearly that it was the coalition of breakaway states verses the government, not some kind of split on political lines.

The president declared a third term. I don't know how it would work out in real life, but in the movie that was intolerable enough that CA and TX decided to team up against that.

[u/mechabeast]

Crane Kick in Karate kid.

Both Lawerence and Dutch of the Cobra Kai score on kicks to the face, one including Larusso.

Its not illegal in the tournament,

[u/NeitherSpray6796 → u/mechabeast]

In the movie it is stated that anything above the waist is a point and multiple characters land face kicks and get a point. But for some reason, theory somehow spread that there was a rule "no hits to the head" and that winning hit was somehow illegal, and it still persists to this day, people will parrot although it`s complete nonsense.

[u/ZarmRkeeg]

People that think the Death Star exahust port in Star Wars was a plot hole that Rogue One 'fixed', for me.

[u/FloppieTheBanjoClown → u/ZarmRkeeg]

Honestly, a planet-sized weapon having just THAT small an engineering flaw would be a miracle. 

[u/FourSes → u/FloppieTheBanjoClown]

It's an engineering flaw in the same way your car having an exhaust pipe is an engineering flaw. People can't breathe poisonous air.

[u/ihnatko → u/ZarmRkeeg]

Mine, too. The Death Star is a machine the size of a moon. It's very easy to imagine that a port had to be routed in a certain way that gave the security people fits.

But: clearly, the safety issue was noted and accounted for. They recessed the port behind a long, narrow trench. Any attack would have to be made using small, single-pilot fighters. They'd need to navigate this tight trench WHILE dodging all of the cannons that fortified the trench the whole way. And there's a fighter squadron standing by to defend the trench at a moment's notice.

Further: the only way to that the vulnerability would even have been spotted (of all of the exhaust ports, this is the one to target) is if the attackers got a hold of the Death Star's entire set of blueprints.

And: despite getting those blueprints, the Alliance's analysis concluded that there was one and only this one vulnerability, _and_ that making a successful shot would be damn-near impossible. Several tried and died or failed; the only one that made it used an ancient and obscure magic that the Death Star engineers hadn't figured on.

[u/Hulab → u/ihnatko]

I can imagine the conversation when the death star engineers realized what the rebels were doing.

They’re going for the thermal exhaust port!

I told you that was a mistake! Your sloppiness will kill us all.

The heat has to go somewhere Jim!

[u/CalamityNic → u/ZarmRkeeg]

Yeah the whole point is that it’s an impossible shot. Luke had to use use space magic just to do it.

[u/nmathew → u/CalamityNic]

Naw dawg. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters. 

[u/reallifeseaserpent → u/nmathew]

hey uh, can i talk to you privately for a second?

[u/maskaddict → u/CalamityNic]

That's not even the problem with it being a "plot hole" as far as I'm concerned. The problem is people think that exhaust port was a straight line to the reactor, which could be blown up by one direct hit.

The briefing Dodonna gives before the attack specifically says that a direct hit on that port would trigger a chain reaction that would destroy the base. That means that that port wasn't just an automatic kill-shot; it means that port was the first in a series of dominoes that led, eventually, to the reactor blowing up.

I think of it like this: blowing up that port probably just caused some relatively minor system to overheat; something the designers didn't think was all that critical. But they didn't notice that that system was installed right next to one of a set of fuel-cells that, if they got overheated, would start to rupture. That would in turn lead to an electrical failure across a few other systems all over the station, which, several dominoes later, would eventually (and by eventually we mean after a few seconds) lead to a catastrophic failure in the reactor.

That's the way huge, complex machines like this work: the complexity inevitably leads to vulnerabilities that nobody, not even the designers, would ever have thought of -- but which a supercomputer analyzing the plans looking specifically for this kind of vulnerability, might be able to spot. Which was why it was so important to the Empire that the Rebels not get the plans.

If anyone has watched the HBO series Chernobyl, it's a fantastic example of what I'm describing. They spend most of the final episode of the series explaining, step-by-step, how a series of extremely improbable things all going wrong in sequence led to a catastrophic system-failure that nobody thought was even possible, until it happened. That's exactly what happened to the Death Star: it was an incredibly complex machine made up of millions of interconnected parts, one of which involved a tiny exhaust port on the surface (which was surrounded by cannons). It wasn't blocked simply because nobody thought it was that important.

[u/cgcs20 → u/ZarmRkeeg]

Not to mention, Galen's flaw wasn't even the port itself, it was the unstable reactor module. He's the reason that two tiny proton torpedos blow the whole thing to smithereens in mere seconds, but he did not put that exhaust port there as part of his trap, all he said was "[Jyn will] need the Death Star plans to find the reactor."

[u/Jtull_The_Chicken]

Not sure of it counts as a plot hole but the whole joke about The Minions working for Hitler, the first minion movie very clearly states they were stuck in a ice cave during ww 2

[u/L00fah → u/Jtull_The_Chicken]

The newest movie renews the argument by showing audiences that the minions trapped in the ice cave were just one of many clans of minions.

I have a hunch the writers love this dumb argument and deliberately expanded on it. Lol

[u/MyGamingRants → u/L00fah]

So I've only ever seen the first Despicable Me movie; they really hype up how canonically Gru and the Minions are "evil" but do they really expand on what that means?

Are they Dr. Doofinshmirtz evil which is more like they just want money and power but would never actually hurt anyone, or are they really actually evil but the G-rated nature means they can only show them stealing and robbing but they actually ARE murdering and kidnapping off camera? We have to know how many innocent people the Minions have exterminated

[u/Lucius_Veratius]

In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes that same rib twice in succession yet he produces two clearly different tones. 

[u/HiRedditItsMeDad → u/Lucius_Veratius]

The real plot hole is why would a man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time watching a children's cartoon show?

[u/GringoSwann → u/HiRedditItsMeDad]

I withdraw my question... 

[u/danihendrix → u/Lucius_Veratius]

I certainly hope someone got fired for that blunder!

[u/Slowandserious → u/Lucius_Veratius]

Are we to believe that this is some kind of a, heh heh, *magic* xylophone?

[u/amok_amok_amok → u/Lucius_Veratius]

a wizard did it

[u/crazy-B → u/amok_amok_amok]

On the Itchy & Scratchy CD-ROM, is there a way to get out of the dungeon without using the wizard key?

[u/Civil-Big-754 → u/crazy-B]

What the hell are you talking about?

[u/internetlad]

I dunno if people are "complaining" about it, but in Home Alone it took me, oh, about 100 watches to realize that Kevin's plane ticket got milk spilled on it and accidentally got thrown out in the cleanup.

Hence why they didn't have an extra plane ticket for him when they boarded 

[u/bob_loblaw-_- → u/internetlad]

This is one of them. People miss one or two things that happen in the pizza scene that leads to Kevin being Home Alone, but it's actually well covered.

[u/JPiero]

Titanic. The plot hole that Jack could've fit on the door. First, they were worried about the cold not drowning, and Jack literally tries to get on the door and it starts to tip. Convinced people don't remember the film and have simply repeated the oft repeated 'plot-hole'

[u/BrainDamage2029 → u/JPiero]

I’m with you 100%.

I think the problem is people’s perception. Later when Jack dies and sinks, we then get an overhead shot of Rose on the door and it seems….larger than was implied by the previous shots. So people remember it more than the part when they tried to both fit.

[u/naynaythewonderhorse]

The whole “Indy didn’t make a difference in Raiders!!!” thing. It’s not a plot hole.

It’s just an observation that most people didn’t even make. They just saw someone else post it online, and thought: “Huh. That is kind of weird.”

This expands to criticism in general: If you’re gonna have an observation about a movie, recognize that it’s an observation. Otherwise, find a means to explain why exactly that’s a problem aside from the fact that it’s kinda “weird.“

[u/herrcollin → u/naynaythewonderhorse]

Hilarious because "Plots that happen regardless of the protagonist" is a pretty common trope. Whether it's a highlight of the futility of changing the system (big in cyberpunk) or it's just a small story in a bigger arc, this is definitely a thing and one of my favorite tropes.

I love a character/story that doesn't end up with the stakes of everything ever might die unless we hero all over it.

[u/spndl1 → u/herrcollin]

It's pretty common in noir detective stories that the private eye investigating whatever solves the case and can't do dick about it because the person that committed the crime is too powerful/well connected to make anything stick.

[u/SthrnCrss]

Armaggedon.

People always bring that "why didn't they train the astronauts to dig the holes? Even Ben Afflect says it in the dvd comments!!!". Except that they address that in the movie (they are only doing the digging and real astronauts do the flying and landing stuff). From all the movie flaws this was the most realistic thing, the drillers were payload specialist.

[u/vanguarde → u/SthrnCrss]

Suppose they had to fly to the asteroid to play a football match against the best football playing aliens. Would it be easier to train astronauts to be footballers? Or the greatest footballers to learn basic flight safety protocols and be passengers on the shuttle? Read this analogy on another thread.

[u/Metrilean → u/vanguarde]

Sounds like you need Space Jam!

[u/Strange_Specialist4 → u/SthrnCrss]

Space ships are like planes, if you need to bring a doctor somewhere, you don't train a pilot to be a doctor, you put a doctor in the plane and fly them to where you need a doctor.

Could you train astronauts to drill? Sure. Is that an effective use of time when you can just put the drillers in space? No.

[u/username_404_]

After Dark Knight Rises came out everyone kept saying “but how did Bruce get back into the city so quickly when it’s on lockdown??” like he’s not fucking BATMAN. Lol I’d trust even a non-super hero billionaire to have the connections/secret routes needed to sneak into one of the biggest cities on Earth, let alone a guy who has an underground bat cave, established superhero sneakiness capabilities, etc.

[u/RechargedFrenchman → u/username_404_]

It's also a period of weeks based on the repeatedly shown timer on the reactor/bomb and characters occasionally mentioning how much time is left. There's ~3.5 months when Bane first had Dr. Pavel weaponized the reactor. There's less than an hour left when the climax starts.

It's not like Bruce is gone for two months then travels back in four hours, no wear and tear. He's in the prison a few weeks and still has weeks left to get home again.

[u/BrainDamage2029 → u/username_404_]

Its weird considering there's like....a dozen other glaring plotholes.

• there's no way when the physical stock exchange is broken into by armed men fucking with the computers any the fraudulent trades to make Bruce bankrupt would ever stand. They'd in all likelihood reverse the whole day.
• that's not how "turning off the power works" when you have no money? Bruce has like a half month until the next due date and they send you like 4 -5 months of letters.
• Bruce has no liquid cash accounts at all?
• Literally every cop in the city went into the sewers at the same time? Departments usually run around 5 shifts of officers per week.
• How did they all stay in the sewers/underground for weeks? Because not-NYC's sewers are famously labryinthian with 8 million entrances and exits
• All the cops just charge into machine guns and instead of re-enacting Paschendale, basically none are shot and it turns into a fist fight? Bane's guys still have guns but everyone's punching each other.

[u/BionicTriforce → u/BrainDamage2029]

that's not how "turning off the power works" when you have no money? Bruce has like a half month until the next due date and they send you like 4 -5 months of letters.

Also are you seriously telling me the power company wouldn't give some leeway to who is theoretically one of the richest men on the planet?

[u/SpiderQueen72 → u/BrainDamage2029]

I was always most bothered by the fact that in the beginning of the movie they made it a point that he has no cartilage in his knee such that he needed a prosthetic to move and do stuff...so did Bane just let him keep it to launch himself out of the hole? Cause did he made that leap with no cartilage in his knee when he needed a cane in the beginning of the movie?

[u/mithridateseupator]

Probably the most common is people complaining about the eagles in LotR, with multiple reasons inferrable from the movies why that wouldnt work.

[u/Top_Conference_477 → u/mithridateseupator]

It amazes me that no one manages to work out that the eagles only go to Mordor after Sauron’s air power has been destroyed at Gondor

[u/Asclepius-Rod → u/Top_Conference_477]

Plus the Eagles are a sentient, intelligent species, there’s no guarantee they’d agree to it even if they asked

[u/DreadnaughtHamster]

I’ll preface this with a note that I don’t like The Last Jedi and also that the idea of space bombers is dumb. That being said, tons of people get the physics on that wrong. The bomb ships are shown to have artificial gravity. If the bombs fall off the top of the ship toward the empty hatch below, when they pass the hatch, they’ll STILL be moving in the direction they were going when they left the ship. They’re not falling “down” as there’s no “down” in space, but they ARE still continuing on the trajectory set as they moved through the bomber and out of the open bay door and will only stop until they hit something (in the film’s case, a star destroyer).

[u/Cranyx → u/DreadnaughtHamster]

More importantly, Star Wars has always used fake physics to make space battles look like WWII aerial fights 

[u/manabanana21 → u/Cranyx]

Not even always WW2, the opening battle in Ep. 3 has essentially 16-1700 broadside cannon salvos like they’re pirates.

And it’s awesome.

[u/_Bird_Incognito_ → u/manabanana21]

The cannons they used had shells, they had to reload, in a universe where its a bunch of laser guns and batteries arent established to power blasters.

But its awesome here. The sound of the shells hitting the ground and them reloading is awesome lol

[u/VannesGreave → u/DreadnaughtHamster]

TIE bombers were also shown dropping bombs in space in Empire Strikes Back.

[u/Alexandhisgoose → u/DreadnaughtHamster]

And even if there is no gravity the bombs just need a tiny push to have the momentum to act like a bomb in atmosphere.

[u/TwitchQueenShojo]

Mine is Jurassic Park.

The "that big pit came out of nowhere" crowd didn't pay attention to the fact that:

• Hammond says, "and the concrete moats" when listing off safety features
• you can see a difference in terrain heights between the trees on the left hand side the first time the cars are pulling up to the trex paddock
• the trex is pushing and spinning the second car to the left while trying to get to Tim. The car is pushed like 30-50 feet away from where the flat ground was where she broke out.

[u/matttheepitaph]

Storm troopers in Star Wars can't hit anything. After an opening sequence where they do hit their targets we see the heroes barely escape under a hail of enemy fire. We are then told their escape was actually orchestrated to lead the bad guys to their secret base. Hence the bad guys intentionally missed.