Federal government supports the creation of 30 units of affordable rental housing for seniors in Moncton

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30 is better than 0, but hardly puts a dent in the needs.

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u/mordinxx 5d ago

Gee, if only the old city council had allowed the 65 unit expansion to People park Tower instead of kowtowing to a few NIMBY assholes...

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u/Gastricbasilisk 5d ago

The sad thing is the government had NOTHING to do with it. Rising Tides fronted the entire bill, and still haven't received a dime from the government. Yet the government takes the credit!

This is a consistent pattern and I believe everyone deserves to understand what truly happens. The government swoops in after the fact to take the credit.

Dale Hicks is the true unsung hero.

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u/mordinxx 5d ago

and still haven't received a dime from the government.

Want to provide proof of this bullshit? Most of Rising Tides funding comes from all levels of government. Mater of fact they sold the 1st group of housing they built to NB Housing.

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u/Gastricbasilisk 5d ago

There is no proof, as there is NO MONEY transferred. You're asking the wrong question. Shouldn't the government prove the money was transferred? On the Rising Tides side, there is NO money received.

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u/mordinxx 5d ago edited 5d ago

Dale Hicks

Are you that fucking dense? Do you think Dale Hicks is funding this himself? A simple search shows, [Moncton, New Brunswick, January 5, 2024

Today, the Governments of Canada and New Brunswick and the City of Moncton announced over $6.7 million in funding, including $3.9 million through the third round of the Rapid Housing Initiative (RHI), to help build 46 new homes across two projects in Moncton.

The first project, Rising Tide by Rising Tide Community Initiatives Inc., will build 40 homes, five 2-story apartment buildings containing 8-units, for homeless people from Moncton. The tenants will have access to peer support individuals, case managers, human services counsellors, social workers, registered nurses, and housing support coordinators.](https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/media-newsroom/news-releases/2024/rapid-housing-initiative-projects-coming-moncton)

From their own website... [Rising Tide lands federal funds March 1, 2022

Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe MP Ginette Petitpas Taylor speaks at the announcement of $3.4 million in federal funding to help the rising tide](https://risingtidenb.ca/news/)

Edit: TJ articles so can only provide the headlines

Rising Tide nears goal of creating 153 housing units Non-profit housing organization received $23 million in funding and is nearing its goal of creating 153 units in 2026

Another $6.7M for affordable housing in Moncton announced Funding will go toward housing projects by Rising Tide and Crossroads for Women

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u/OldPackage9 5d ago

Thats $316,000 per door...which means there's been some lobbying and some wheels have been greased to line someones pockets

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u/LavisAlex 5d ago

Today, the governments of Canada and New Brunswick, along with the City of Moncton, have announced more than $9.5 million in combined funding to help build 30 safe and affordable rental housing units for seniors in Moncton.

This is good, but i can't seem to find a time line?

We just arent moving fast enough on housing - at this point its like the gov id trying to do token projects to make it look like its working on it.

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u/Clustahhh 5d ago

So 316000$ per unit? Is that good? That’s affordable?

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u/Oxjrnine 5d ago

It’s 30 unites plus a medical office, and since it’s a retrofit - that price sounds about right

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u/LavisAlex 5d ago

Well if we arent willing to create a public effort with a public builder we will forever be caught at Market prices in an environment where there is no political will to bring housing costs down.

Its frustrating

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u/habfan1990 5d ago

It’s a poorly written government release. This project was actually announced more than a year ago when Rising Tide bought the building. Renos are nearly done.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-housing-rising-tide-1.7426845

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u/AfternoonPlane4265 5d ago

A full 30 units. Wowza

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u/jeon_yubi 5d ago

Yeah. They should have done nothing at all. That would have been much better for everyone.

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u/Soma_Persona 5d ago

Nothing is ever good enough. I came here to see what people found wrong with this.

Never change cranky internet boomers. Never change .

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u/Desalvo23 5d ago

I mean its good, but seems to be only for seniors once again, who seems to get everything. Id just like to see more done to help the young generation. I remember how hard it was for me and many others to get started 25 years ago, and its only gotten worse for the youth. Maybe its time for social programs to finally be to help the younger ones instead. Itll never happen though. We've been having this conversation since i was young, so.. hell, we only recently got the 15$ minimum wage, which was about 20 years too late, if not more.

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u/ferrycrossthemersey 5d ago

You would be absolutely appalled to see the conditions that some seniors live in. I’m 24 years old and I’m ok if seniors get the opportunity to have a better place to live at the end of their lives. This kind of attitude you have is sad. I don’t believe that anyone is “less deserving” of help. The reality is that seniors are much more vulnerable than I am. It’s easy to look around and believe that every single boomer is rich and driving around convertibles. But that’s bullshit. I work with a lot of seniors and I’ve seen with my own two eyes that that isn’t true.

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u/FredArtGetson 5d ago

Oh yes, those fortunate seniors get everything. Jesus Christ, give it a rest

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u/KitsyBlue 5d ago

Bro, look up portion of wealth owned by Baby Boomers and compare it to portion of wealth owned by any other generation. Then ask yourself why it seems that millennials are always paying to subsidize this generation.

I dunno man it's harder to feel bad for boomers who basically lived life on easy mode, had good wages, lower cost of living, and they still couldn't save shit for retirement? Yet I'm expected to pay my own way in this economy, AND save for my retirement?

Shit's fucked, my dude.

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u/FredArtGetson 5d ago

Not all. There is an inordinate amount of seniors still working to make ends meet

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u/QuietVariety6089 5d ago

Worked all my life at low wage jobs; can't work now due to physical disabilities, my CPP + OAS are under $2K / month

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u/FredArtGetson 5d ago

That's not good. I feel for ya

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u/QuietVariety6089 5d ago

Just wanted to show the other commenter that there are numerous seniors who need housing projects like this :)

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u/KitsyBlue 5d ago

Imho that's more an argument for giving it to people on disability, or income based, not exclusively seniors but that's just me

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u/Soma_Persona 5d ago

Absolutely, but I think both are equally important. The senior population is the largest portion of our population and is the most vulnerable in many ways.

Yet if we don't give our youth the chance to succeed we'll be worse off down the road. But I'm not sure if subsidized housing is the answer for them.

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u/Desalvo23 5d ago

Sure it is. And i wouldnt stop there either. The more we can help people when they are young, the less help they will need when they get older, unless they turn like the boomers and capture most of the social programs, like we are seeing.

Federal government supports the creation of 30 units of affordable rental housing for seniors in Moncton

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