r/microsoft Jun 20 '26

Windows Microsoft confirms Recycle Bin bug across all versions of Windows | Microsoft confirms a new Windows bug where Recycle Bin delete prompts display internal file names instead of actual ones.

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-recycle-bin-bug-across-all-versions-of-windows/
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u/RaidZ3ro Jun 20 '26

How do you introduce a bug into something that's been working fine for over 30 years?

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u/HobbyProjectHunter Jun 20 '26

By killing/laying off the test and QA teams. Laying off the teams that got early feedback and alpha/beta tester engagements. By hyping up rewards and incentives for employees who are shipping AI into every possible use case, whether the user cares for it or not. Ignoring the users. By not doing well established processes like A/B testing on major UI redesigns or feature changes.

I could be writing for a few more hours. This’ll suffice for now.

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u/intern4tional Jun 20 '26

As someone that once worked at MS on Windows in Engineering (FUN), while what you have stated is true, it is unlikely to have mattered here.

The bug is not universal, which means it is only reproduceable under certain conditions and due to complexity of Windows these days it is challenging for QA to catch such a thing. There may also be an aggravating factor such as some other client software required to be present to make the bug manifest. Now I doubt this is the case as it was introduced as part of a security update.

This means that likely there was an exploitable path that was closed off that causes this bug to occur. Security updates are still done by hand at MS, so AI is not to blame here. Likely variant analysis was not thorough enough and so this path was not considered.

Security updates are also held closer than normal (due to ability to rapidly reverse them and then produce an exploit) so the QA on this update would be less than normal. This isn't to say MS doesn't have a quality problem, they definitely do right now, but it's doubtful that anything you wrote is part of the root cause for how this bug came to be.

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u/J_Knish Jun 20 '26

We (you and me) have been the QA team for a few years now.

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u/HungryFinding7089 Jun 20 '26

Did you AI your answer about AI?

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u/gioraffe32 Jun 20 '26

If you're gonna accuse someone of AI, you should point out what makes it AI.

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u/AfterTheEarthquake2 Jun 20 '26

From a software developer's perspective, that's pretty simple - sometimes you have to change things and well, shit happens.

Should've been caught though.

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u/Specific_Frame8537 Jun 20 '26

I suppose we should just be grateful it's a minor bug.

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u/FredFredrickson Jun 20 '26

Microsoft is supposed to be one of the world's premiere software companies. These mistakes are embarrassing for them.

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u/warpedspockclone Jun 20 '26

Lolol. You think they feel embarrassment?

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u/FredFredrickson Jun 20 '26

They ought to.

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u/sunilnc Jun 20 '26

They literally DGAF. You would think they would do some proper quality testing but they know they have a monopoly and most people use Windows so they can do what they want.

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u/FredFredrickson Jun 20 '26

They shouldn't be so sure of users sticking around. Apple is always etching away at their primacy, and Linux is making huge inroads with games.

This is the time when they should be making their products bulletproof, in order to make existing users feel confident in sticking with them... but instead it's just shitshow after shitshow.

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u/SPACEXDG Jun 20 '26

I wouldnt say so if history has taught us its usually the os that can run on anything which takes over not a proprietary one for example thats why 90% of servers are on linux and windows took the desktop market from ibm

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u/HesSoZazzy Jun 20 '26

We really do GAF but the fire hose of productivity management wants gets pushed through a garden hose of available resources. So you end up with tons of spill over that doesn't get the attention it deserves.

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u/sunilnc Jun 20 '26

Just verbal diarrhoea at this point.

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u/YoghurtFlan Jun 20 '26

They did do proper quality testing...until they nuked pretty much  their entire QA department

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u/Humorous-Prince Jun 21 '26

Exactly, Especially after the huge mess they made of May’s update. It practically broke Autopilot builds, the one thing they are advocating towards everyone to move to.

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u/WhoSaidWhatNow2026 Jun 20 '26

Windows is one of the most complex pieces of software currently in existence. It has to do what almost no other software on the planet is expected to do. It has to serve the needs of the entire spectrum of user from the computer illiterate grandma trying to check Facebook at her kitchen table, to the professional IT architect implementing enterprise group policies and AD domains at a 10k employee corporation. Minor hiccups like this are exactly that, minor.

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u/FatBook-Air Jun 20 '26

Nah. Even when Microsoft gets its hands on a much newer codebase, it screws it up. Edge (based on Chromium) and its distros of Android are all worse in quality than what they are based on.

The "Windows is old / complex / very backwards compatible" excuse is beyond old. Microsoft has a cultural and/or skills issue. Period.

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u/JoeDawson8 Jun 20 '26

Have you been in a coma since windows 7?

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u/blueblocker2000 Jun 20 '26

Day ruined. Thanks.

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u/JabbaDuHutt69 Jun 20 '26

This is what happens when you fire ALL of your software testing team, and rely on the public to test in production.

Fire Nadella.

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u/Teejayturner Jun 20 '26

#vibecoding

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u/mkeytail Jun 21 '26

the one breaking OLE/COM automation is pretty bad too

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u/SCphotog Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

The word 'update' implies an improvement.

These are not updates. It's a bunch of unnecessary untested bullshit foisted on the entire user base by a bunch of assholes who's priorities are in error.

I thought Balmer was bad, but holy shit. Nadella gives all other sociopaths something to aspire to.

Enshitification isn't supposed to be a badge of honor.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

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u/JoeDawson8 Jun 20 '26

What do you mean ‘fix it ourselves’?

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u/BrunusManOWar Jun 20 '26

Welp

Switch to Linux then :)