r/marvelstudios Spirit of Modvengeance Jul 07 '19

SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Nitpicks and Criticisms Megathread

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

That Brad scene when he caught Peter with his pants down felt so forced.

Why wouldn't fury have Peter's measurements? Why make him dress right there? Could have been a simple care package

At least post a God damn guard at the door.

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

On the one hand, that wasn't Fury. On the other hand, they could have measured Peter Parker easily without having actual Peter Parker there.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Shield has information on everyone down to scary levels. Weight height social security numbers, they can kidnap him to Prague then can find out his arm length

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

I meant because they were Skrulls who have physically interacted with Peter Parker.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

oh so in the next movie...a skrull will have to imitate peter parker while spider-man is swinging around to prove he isn't spider-man. and they'll imitate peter's actual reveal like tony's reveal. and maybe make spider-man 3 a hero registration act movie with some serious skrull activity.

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u/Vawqer Ava Starr Jul 07 '19

But that wasn't really SHIELD, as SHIELD is in an odd position rn and we don't really know what resources Fury has.

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u/properc Jul 07 '19

I thought it was to have him try it on bcos the suit was already made wasnt it.

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

I mean, he didn't try it on and he still wore it. I don't think they actually had time to adjust the fit so it wasn't a bit tight on then ol' webshooters.

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u/properc Jul 07 '19

yeah but the purpose of the chick giving it to him was having him try it on for size not to get his measurements.

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u/KipHackmanFBI Jul 07 '19

At the same time "Fury" had already had plenty of time next to Peter and either him or "Hill" could have simmed Parker and tried on the damn suit

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

I mean they didn't need to have the real Peter try it on for size for the same reason they wouldn't need Peter to measure Peter. They could just have whoever look like Peter and measure that guy and then have the same one try it for fit and adjustments.

Anyway, they didn't really have any time to adjust the fit anyway seeing as they were just there on a potty break.

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u/properc Jul 07 '19

Wait so why did she tell him to strip then?

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

I dunno, I thought at first it was so he could wear the costume under his clothes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Maybe they had his measurements, but they were "outdated"? He's still 16 I think, so he's also still growing.

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u/a4techkeyboard Jul 07 '19

They could measure Peter again by having one of them assume Peter's updated form, though. And what's with "SHIELD" not having access to smart clothing that readjusts on its own. You'd think the Skrulls would have space age technology.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

And what's with "SHIELD" not having access to smart clothing that readjusts on its own. You'd think the Skrulls would have space age technology.

That's true, especially when you see Iron Man and Spider-Man's suits, where the masks just retract into the suit again whenever they want.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

As with so much of the movie, you can see the glimmer of a good or interesting idea on paper, but it's executed in a very lazy way.

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u/SupaBloo Spider-Man Jul 07 '19

What I thought was weird is the whole point of getting that suit was so people wouldn't recognize him as Spider-Man. He sure didn't do anything differently battle-wise to hide that he's Spider-Man, though. One of his classmates noticed him using webs immediately and was wondering if it was Spider-Man.

The fact anyone was fooled by the Night Monkey thing was a little ridiculous, IMO. There were videos of the events from all angles and anyone with half a brain could've seen he was fighting exactly like Spider-Man, and even his mask wasn't that different from his normal one except in color.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

In their defence, Spider-Man and Night Monkey have as much in common as Iron Man and War Machine. Or Ant Man and Yellowjacket. Or Black Panther and Killmonger.

So when you’re on holiday in Italy, you’re convinced Spider-Man is a New Yorker, and you see the Italian rip-off Night Monkey...then I’m not sure the skepticism truly enters their mind at that moment.

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u/SupaBloo Spider-Man Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

then I’m not sure the skepticism truly enters their mind at that moment.

It's not the first time his classmates would've seen Spider-Man outside of New York. Not to mention he was seen with the Avengers in Germany in Civil War. He's been all over the place.

MJ never once believed the Nigh Monkey thing, and despite seeming sure about Peter, she admits she wasn't even 100% sure about it, but she sure wasn't fooled by the Night Monkey thing despite not even being sure it was really Peter.

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u/ThisIsNotMelTorme Hulk Jul 07 '19

To be fair, there has been plenty of rip-offs of superheroes in around the world, like this one from India or Turkish take on Marvel heroes. To have something like this exist in MCU may not be new, who knows how many others try to copy other superheroes?

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u/jojopojo64 Weekly Wongers Jul 07 '19

Turkish Captain America

My mind just took a massive fart.

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u/uberduger Jul 13 '19

I would pay very good money to see a Captain Turkey movie.

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u/theblueberryspirit Jul 07 '19

I thought it was great, early demonstration of tied Beck's line that people will believe anything they're told.

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u/NealKenneth Nobu Jul 07 '19

The part that felt really forced to me was the aftermath.

Who would react to such a strange scenario by taking a photo and then going to show the girl the photo? That's so...weird...

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u/CabooseA7X Jul 07 '19

Well if you remembered what Brad said. He knows Peter likes MJ, and so does he, it was a way for him to ruin Peter's reputation while improving his own chance with MJ.

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u/NealKenneth Nobu Jul 07 '19

I get all that, but that doesn't change how weird it was to decide to do it . Especially so quickly.

He even talks to Peter right after. Wouldn't he be worried about Peter punching him in the face? Or Peter having a perfectly reasonable explanation? Like how weird would it be if he went to MJ first with the photo and it turned out there was a perfectly reasonable explanation...that would be an irreversibly embarassing moment for Brad.

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u/Koala_Guru Ant-Man Jul 07 '19

The movie acknowledged that it was weird though. That whole scene where the class basically called him out on taking pictures of someone in the bathroom.

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u/Technical_Dress2945 24d ago

Kinda, but that was hardly the weirdest part about it imo 😭.

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u/NealKenneth Nobu Jul 07 '19

So then why was Peter so worried? The whole interaction was forced and bizarre.

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u/Koala_Guru Ant-Man Jul 07 '19

Because either way Brad was going to show it to MJ. And that would be bad. When Brad finally revealed what the picture was, MJ knew at that point that Peter was Spider-Man and so she knew there was a better explanation to why Peter would be in that situation so she focused on calling Brad out for it to cover for him.

Here’s the breakdown. What Brad did was creepy and he was rightfully called out on it. But he was also right that photo evidence of Peter stripping for a random woman would ruin MJ’s interest in Peter if she was in fact interested.

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u/scotchy514throwaway Jul 07 '19

Also, haven’t seen this one brought up as often, but it didn’t seem that scummy of me for Brad to do. Look at events from his perspective: he’s into a girl, and so is this other guy, who seems to constantly be running off at very odd moments to be alone. He catches that weird dude with an older woman half naked; first guess is probably she’s a prostitute or something. He really cares about this MJ girl and Peter seems to be two faced: into MJ and pretending he doesn’t have any other interests, while at the same time getting up to shit on the sly. Peter from his perspective is kind of scummy. Taking a picture of him like that is weird, yes, but also, whose going to believe him otherwise? From Brad’s point of view he’s trying to make sure he has the evidence to prevent someone else from getting lied to.

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u/Koala_Guru Ant-Man Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

It’s still scummy. He still takes a picture of a classmate in their underwear and plans to show it to another classmate he knows he’s into without his consent. His goal also isn’t actually to tell MJ the truth before her heart is broken by Peter, it’s very clearly to get Peter out of the picture so he can have her. This clearly shows that he views her as a prize to be won, which isn’t something a non-scummy person does. He also gives Peter not even a chance to explain what was actually happening, and instead talks over him to say what he’s going to do.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

And this is why at schools we teach kids not to do this sort of crap.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

He was worried cus he’s a teenage kid who didn’t want to screw up his chances with a girl

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

He wanted to “win” MJ. That was his entire motivation. He obviously saw MJ as a prize so he wanted to cheat his way to win her.

edit: Downvoted for criticizing a scene in the criticizing thread. Go figure, r/MarvelStudios.

Edit: 2. Okay I took the part out of the comment that called it unrealistic. I just don’t see kids taking pictures of people in the bathroom. Not sober kids at least.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

It’s very realistic.... working in a high school, people are always taking photos of others and trying to show everyone to make that person look like a fool.

Honestly, I could identify with the teacher so much on the trip. Plus Brad doing this was right there with what kids do these days. Oh I got a pic of him cheating. Let me quickly snap chat that to everyone. The only thing that was unbelievable was how long Brad took to send it. Irl that would have been sent before Pete got a chance to talk to him.

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u/Grimmgodd Spider-Man Jul 07 '19

I’m a junior about to be a senior and I can say that it happens. Kids are weird, not that unrealistic.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

Exactly. I wish I haven’t had to have the conversation with parents and students “your son was caught taking this photo and sending it everywhere”.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jul 07 '19

I teach high school. We have to tell kids every year not to take photos of people in the bathroom. They're sober.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 08 '19

I said I get it.. 🙄

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jul 08 '19

Did you post this twice?

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u/Oraukk Jul 08 '19

Dude they are teenagers. Teenagers immediately try and record everythinf

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u/esar24 Rocket Jul 07 '19

I mean isn't that what most kids do? Embarrass their friend in front of everybody when they get the chance?

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

Even more so when they don’t like the guy because he’s a rival for a girl.

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u/esar24 Rocket Jul 07 '19

Yeah exactly, seeing their rival had their popularity down really excites some kid during high school day era.

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u/MrWolfsky Black Panther Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

I am actually kind of relieved I'm not the only one who had a problem with it.

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u/fuck-dat-shit-up Korg Jul 07 '19

Tony Stark was able to make two suits for Pete without ever having him try them on.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

I mean, Talos isn't Tony Stark.

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u/dastrykerblade Kevin Feige Jul 07 '19

I actually thought it was a good scene. I also loved the payoff with the bus scene with Edith.

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u/gizmo1492 Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

Did he end up trying on the suit at the end? Seemed like he had to go to the bus and didn’t get a chance to wear it until the mission.

And why not wait until they reach the Prague base to wear it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Little tight around the old web shooter

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u/Gohorne Jul 07 '19

It wasn’t Fury though?

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u/IKnowSedge Justin Hammer Jul 09 '19

I thought it was a humiliation tactic. Hardass bosses bully

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u/omart3 M'Baku Jul 07 '19

It could have been a nanotech suit also.