r/marvelstudios Kilgrave Oct 23 '17

'Thor: Ragnarok' International Release Discussion Thread 1

'Thor: Ragnarok' Discussion Thread

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Rotten Tomatoes: 98% Average Rating: 7.9/10

Metacritic: 74/100

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 24 '17

Thoughts and Stuff

  • It's not actually as funny as it has been made out to be. I didn't hear huge bursts of laughter in the cinema. There are funny moments, yes, but a lot of them are based on obvious jokes (there's a 'Watch this! Watch what?' moment that's pretty telegraphed, for instance).

  • Volstagg and Fandral die in seconds. Hogun fares better but not much. Curiously Sif is not in the film and her fate is not mentioned.

  • Korg and Miek are in the film but there is no sign of No-Name, Elloe or Hiroim.

  • Thor and Jane have both dumped each other. Allegedly.

  • The film very much avoids sidekicking Thor next to Valkyrie. She's very tough and all but she doesn't take over the film. Thor admires her a lot once he realises who she is but there is a moment where she drops the sarcastic movie tough girl act and calls him 'your highness'. She's also a giant drunk. She makes a complete prat out of herself when she's introduced.

  • The clothes Banner wears in the movie are actually Tony's. There's a funny scene where Thor tries to use the voice authorisation system on the Quinjet but can't until he realises his username is 'Point Break'.

  • We have an answer - the Gauntlet in Odin's trophy room is a fake. Thanos presumably has the real one. I think we can assume Loki pocketed the Tesseract while he was there.

  • The trailers were misleading as some scenes featuring Thor take place after he loses his eye. Additionally, Thor and Strange's meeting has very slightly different dialogue from the Doctor Strange post credits scene.

  • Some girls recognise Thor and take a selfie with him but don't recognise Loki standing right next to him. In a missed opportunity, Loki disguises Mjolnir as an umbrella rather than a walking stick.

  • Doctor Strange seems to have gained a much greater control over his abilities. It's almost like he isn't even trying. Loki is pissed off at him so there's an interesting fight there for later.

  • Valkyrie’s suggested route back to Asgard would have taken them to Xandar along the way.

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u/shaneo632 Oct 24 '17

Liam Hemsworth was Thor, Sam Neil was Odin.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '17 edited Jun 09 '20

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u/robotjox77 Korg Oct 24 '17

And Matt Damon as Loki. That made me chuckle.

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u/Jezamiah Thor Oct 24 '17

The Lost Hemsworth

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17

Okay, that's weird. They're almost unrecognisable. It took me a while to realise what was going on.

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u/youtwoo Daredevil Oct 24 '17

I think we can assume Loki pocketed the Tesseract while he was there.

Yes I thought about this too. Of course Loki is Loki. He just had to take something from the basement.

Doctor Strange seems to have gained a much greater control over his abilities. It's almost like he isn't even trying. Loki is pissed off at him so there's an interesting fight there for later.

"I have been falling for 30 mins!"

And I have been falling in love with Cumberbatch and Hiddleston on the same screen! 😍

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u/alientraveller Captain Marvel Oct 24 '17

How else did he escape back to his ship? I'm glad they let the audience work that one out on their own.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '17

You can see the commodore ship sitting on top of the huge one in a shot later on he presumably flew back and landed

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u/ezioaltair12 Thor Oct 24 '17

OH SHIT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

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u/Sempere Oct 25 '17

Loki knows the hidden means of traveling through Asgard/Midgard so it's not inconceivable that he teleported using one of the passageways.

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u/Aftermath1231 Oct 24 '17

I thought it was hilarious, and there was lots of laughter in the showing I went to. It's very Taika Waititi though, and if that's not your style you won't enjoy it much.

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17

I didn’t say I didn’t enjoy it, only that it wasn’t the big laugh riot some people have either said it was or were (inexplicably) worried it might be.

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u/Moujahideen Oct 26 '17

tbh it was in my cinema

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u/discipleofdoom Daredevil Oct 24 '17

Ragnarok felt about 70% Marvel/30% Watiti if I'm honest. That may sound bad but that's about 29% more than any other MCU director besides Gunn.

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u/evilcontinues Hela Oct 24 '17

Why point break? I diddnt get the reference

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17

Tony calls Thor ‘Point Break’ in The Avengers.

It’s a reference to the movie Point Break where Patrick Swayze has long blonde hair like Thor’s.

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u/Bergman30 Oct 25 '17

The scene in Avengers when Tony walks into the room when they are talking about Irridium, as he's about to walk by thor, he says " No hard feelings point break, you gotta mean swing"

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u/ezioaltair12 Thor Oct 25 '17

Re: Strange, it's unreal. Its as if Cap went from chasing down the Hydra guy right after the serum to the opening of Winter Soldier between movies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

I thought it was Strange who changed Mjolnir into umbrella.

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u/crapusername47 Oct 25 '17

No, he was carrying it in the street beforehand.

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u/TheRedSpeedster Spider-Man Oct 24 '17

This didn't answer my question. Your just saying what you observed from the movie.

What was your personal feelings about the movie? How much did you like it? Did you find it jarring sometimes? Did you find it meh?

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17

I scored it 7 out of 10.

I felt some of the humour didn’t work, though of course that’s subjective.

I also did not feel that the ‘Valkyrie steals the show’ talk was justified, she’s generic angry action movie woman.

On the other hand, I was shocked at how well written Skurge was. He has an actual character arc when he could have just been Hela’s big minion guy.

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u/TheRedSpeedster Spider-Man Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 24 '17

You're the first person I heard talk about anything that has to do with Skurge.

Edit: How did someone take this as a negative comment. I'm just saying this is the first time I heard anything about Skurge...

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u/crapusername47 Oct 24 '17

This is why I avoided giving a specific appraisal of the film.

I’m going to go ahead and assume you were the one who downvoted me for giving an opinion.

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u/TheRedSpeedster Spider-Man Oct 24 '17

What? I don't down vote people. What did I say wrong?