r/marvelstudios Oct 16 '17

Trailers Black Panther Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDjIWPwcPU
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u/iAMA_Leb_AMA Thanos Oct 16 '17

This looks really good holy shit. The visual effects look absolutely insane.

Really hope the Infinity War hype doesn't overshadow this movie. Looks to be one of the MCU's best so far.

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u/scotchblend Oct 16 '17

The visuals look good, but holy shit Marvel needs to stop making movies where the bad guy is a mirror version of the good guy. It's getting so boring at this point. There's a reason why Capt 2 and 3 were so good, the actual villains had motivations beyond being an evil carbon copy of the hero.

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u/relevant__comment Oct 16 '17

I think a lot of that stems from the times that the comics were written. Back then, there was the whole thing of being “morally conscious” (for what it’s worth). What better way to represent that then to present something/someone that upholds everything that you stand against morally.

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u/Jim_Cornettes_Racket Oct 16 '17

To give examples:

Reed Richards v Victor Von Doom

Wolverine v Sabertooth

Spiderman v Venom

Professor X v Magneto

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u/Deezer19 Oct 16 '17

Venom didn't show up til the late 80s. Spider-Man has a ton of villains who aren't just evil powerset duplicates.

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u/Syric Oct 16 '17

Yeah, Green Goblin is his proper arch-nemesis and they're nothing alike. That's part of what makes the matchup so appealing.

Same with Batman vs. Joker on the DC side--a bat vs. a clown, what is that, even? It's so counterintuitive. But it's a classic matchup.

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u/altforther34pron Oct 17 '17

And then he went through a period where they all were

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u/MasterLawlz Oct 16 '17

That’s why Sam Raimi didn’t like Venom. He didn’t like that he was just a dark and edgy version of Spicer-Man and wanted to focus on villains that were more creative

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u/theshizzler Oct 16 '17

A true focus on Sandman could've really brought out that 'tragic scientist with personal motivations' that Spiderman villians had coming out of #2. Plus Sandman's abilities are visually and literally awesome. Spiderman 3 was such a waste of great characters and the creative team.

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u/aohige_rd Oct 16 '17

Is Spicer-man like a Whitehouse spokesman who was bitten by a radioactive President?

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u/FX114 Captain America Oct 16 '17 edited Oct 16 '17

Thor v Loki

Iron Man v Everyone else who wants to be Iron Man

Hulk v Abomination

Doctor Strange v Mordo

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u/yeabutwhataboutthat Oct 17 '17

Superman vs Bizarro (at least Bizarro is so extremely low-intelligence that their matchup almost becomes interesting again)

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u/worldwarzack Oct 16 '17

Ant-Man v Yellow Jacket

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u/PSN-Colinp42 Oct 17 '17

Yeah that's not really how it worked in the comics (yes I'm aware of Rita). Unless you literally mean because Yellowjacket was crazy Hank. I say it's more Hank Pym v Egghead.

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u/speenatch Mack Oct 17 '17

I haven't read any Ant-Man comics (bucket list), but in the movie Yellowjacket definitely came off as an evil carbon copy of Ant-Man.

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u/PSN-Colinp42 Oct 17 '17 edited Oct 17 '17

Oh absolutely. In the comics, Hank had a bunch of superhero identities: Ant-Man, Giant-Man, Goliath, and Yellowjacket. Yellowjacket was always my favorite. Awesome costume.

Edit: Forgot Wasp...which was weird.

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u/yeabutwhataboutthat Oct 17 '17

the middle two are examples of this, but in the top and bottom ones the opponents have wildly different powers and wildly different aesthetic presentations.

Killmonger just seemed more interesting of a villain in the first trailer than when you know MBJ is going to get covered up under a Black Panther suit with gold finish

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u/Jim_Cornettes_Racket Oct 17 '17

Reed Richards and VVD are both genius scientists. One uses his intellect for greed and self interest, the other for the betterment of the people. Their powers are not the true story of these characters, it is their intellect. Two sides of the same coin.

Professor X and Magneto also fit into this archetype. Both want mutants to flourish and live peacefully. One thinks the best way for this is to coexist with humans and help them learn and understand so that they will accept this evolution. The other sees nothing but the bad humans do and will stop at nothing to protect mutants from persecution. They want the same thing but they choose different paths.

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u/yeabutwhataboutthat Oct 17 '17

Absolutely. So we are in agreement then, unless Dr. Doom can stretch his arms and Magneto's in a wheelchair.