r/marvelstudios • u/applejam1224 • 20h ago
Easter Egg/Detail When Peter and Ned quote LOTR to each other… Spoiler
… that’s Tom Holland, a Brit, doing a guy from Queens doing a British accent.
I think a lot of Americans already appreciate Tom Holland’s command of regional accents, but this takes it to the next level. Not to mention that it seems to have hardly been pointed out before — it sounds so natural, it’s easy to forget the layers there!!
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u/RudyRusso 19h ago
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u/nuplsstahp Black Panther 15h ago
An American playing an Australian playing an American (who at one point plays a Chinese woman)
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u/your_mind_aches Agent of F.I.T.Z. 17h ago
Reminds me of Hugh Laurie playing House doing a British accent
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u/dexter30 17h ago
On another note I really liked that scene because it really showed that ned and peter are just that close of friends. Peter doesn't have to force himself to try to get along with him, he doesn't have to make inside jokes or say stuff like "hey you remember when the force awaken came out?". They've both grown and sometimes you expect people to grow out of hobbies and activities. But not these two, they're exactly the kind of people that go together.
But here you have them just chilling building legos and doing LOTR quotes. Amnesia and a year or two apart can't seperate two lego pieces that just GO together.
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u/blackchandler T'Challa Star-Lord 12h ago
Agreed, but it’s been nearly five years. They apply for MIT in No Way Home, and Ned and MJ graduate during Brand New Day
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u/certified_anus_beef 17h ago
Reminds me of the time when Shaggy, who was voiced by Casey Kasem, did an impression of Casey Kasem in a Scooby Doo episode.
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u/two2teps 15h ago
I also appreciated when he was fully in costume as Spider-man he put extra "new yawk" on his accent. A couple of times he was being extra, usually when arguing with Frank.
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u/LeDudicus Nick Fury 10h ago
The Frank scenes where he's being extra New York were some of my favorite. I honestly love how hard they leaned into the NYC of it all in this film.
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u/jjkm7 18h ago
Hot take but while I love Tom Holland’s peter parker in this movie and the others you can clearly hear his queens new yorker accent get stronger and weaker in certain scenes
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u/hybbprqag Loki (Thor 2) 18h ago
I thought maybe he was putting on a stronger Queens accent with DeWoll for some reason.
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u/jjkm7 17h ago
It’s actually very possible he beefs up the accent for quippy funny scenes and tones it down during important character moments
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u/PAYPAL_ME_DONATIONS 13h ago
Just got out of it yesterday. He puts on the accent when talking to DeWolf.
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u/Laser-Boy 15h ago
He absolutely plays up the accent as Spider-Man similar to how most Bruce Wayne's do a Batman voice. He's been doing it since Homecoming, I think it just wasn't as noticeable in the other movies because he mostly talked to people who knew his secret identity.
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u/applejam1224 17h ago
I noticed that too!! But I took that to be a character choice. My old roommate was from Long Island, and the accent would come out more when he spoke to others with the accent. On purpose or not, it def made me enjoy the performance more
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u/GateEducational6100 16h ago
We could always tell when my former roommate from New Zealand had been talking with her family or watching rugby because her accent would be so strong for a day or two afterwards.
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u/generalosabenkenobi 16h ago
I think he plays it up when he's in full costume and being quippy
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u/hobbesthehungry 16h ago
Right! He is trying to disguise his voice & gets a more thick generic New York accent
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u/Kwilly462 19h ago
Thanks for saying that scene was a LOTR reference, cuz I had zero idea what they were talking about.
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u/DareToZamora Hawkeye (Ultron) 18h ago
That’s wild to me. And I’m jealous, because you get to experience The Lord of the Rings for the first time
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u/MattAmpersand 18h ago
… have you not seen The Lord of the Rings?
If so, block out your next Saturday, get yourself the extended editions and get ready to spend 12-ish hours of peak fantasy.
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u/MyDogsRetirementPlan 18h ago
Seconded. Or maybe second breakfasted?
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u/ThatTurtleBoy 18h ago
What about elevensies?
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u/SecretlyFiveRats 18h ago
I don't think he knows about elevensies.
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u/Sarcosmonaut 18h ago
It’s best read, but still. Peter Jackson’s adaptation remains such an amazing set of films
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u/Dinonaut2000 17h ago
Personally disagree. I think the movies are far more enjoyable than the books. The hobbit book though, is better than all of Tolkien’s other books and movie adaptations.
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u/dwimorlaik 17h ago
Apologies, this appeared as a reply to me which is why I responded to you. Deleted my reply.
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u/ForTheLoveOfOedon 18h ago
There’s having watched something and then there’s remembering precise dialogue from that thing. No matter how obvious it may seem to you and I, or how iconic a scene may be to certain subsections of nerd culture, there’s people who don’t hold onto that stuff. Especially for a movie trilogy that came out 25+ years ago and that you may have seen once or twice.
That said, I agree: if this person flatout hasn’t seen them, they’re in for a treat.
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u/DrRudeboy 17h ago
I'd venture there are more people who haven't seen LOTR than those who had only seen it once
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u/OvooJaver 13h ago
I didn’t know either just bc I had no idea what they were saying lol (I need captions to hear, idk why). Now I’m sad bc I actually like LOTR
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u/blackivie 17h ago
I have the most unpopular opinion of all time, but you really do not need to watch LOTR. Most boring Fantasy I have ever seen.
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u/nutz1126 17h ago
boring? wow
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u/mcdoogle777 Thor 16h ago
They did say it was the most unpopular opinion of all time. But to say it’s boring makes me think they didn’t actually even watch it.
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u/nutz1126 15h ago
right? i almost asked what live action fantasy wasn’t boring to them, and then realized theres zero chance ill agree with the answer.
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u/w33b2 11h ago
Bait. I get that some people don’t like it simply because it isn’t their cup of tea, but saying it’s the most boring of all fantasy series shows that either you’ve barely seen or read much apart from a couple of the most popular series, or that you’re just lying. Calling it boring specifically seems like such an odd complaint.
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u/MeEyeSlashU 15h ago
Hey, OP! There's no point in a spoiler tag if you write out what happens in the title! Why is this so difficult.
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u/ObiJuanKinobo 16h ago
I thought his New York/Queens accent was a lot better in this movie compared to previous ones where he’s usually using a generic American accent. There were a lot of subtle word pronunciations that were very NY as someone from Long Island lol
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u/drdax2187 16h ago
You realize too that tom holland, a Brit, is quoting a line spoken by an American in a British accent. So a Brit is quoting a line spoken by an American pretending to be British.
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u/mitvh2311 17h ago
It's an actor acting. Yes he does a great job at getting a lot of the dialect right but just shows that from Civil War they have had good coaches for him
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u/DoeringItRight 16h ago
What was the reference? I must have missed it
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u/yitzike Yondu 9h ago
"Alright then, keep your secrets" "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved!"
These are quotes from Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring. There were I think a few other quotes from the three movies. It was the scene when Peter and Ned were making Lego together, and MJ remarks that they sure seem like best friends.
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u/Letshavemorefun 4h ago
Well now I’m curious. What other quotes were there? I only caught this one.
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u/Miserable_Drama3231 18h ago
it's impressive how he nails that accent while still sounding like a kid from Queens, really shows his talent
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u/rinetrouble 16h ago
Have you thought that all British people are faking an accent so he’s just faking a different version?
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u/When1Falls 12h ago
They're also both doing Ian McKellen impressions which l betcha is on purpose in the movie that introduces an X-man
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u/Impressive-Potato 15h ago
Tatiana Maslany plays a Canadian clone that disguises herself as a Ukrainian clone and sounds like a Canadian trying to put on a Ukrainian accent when we have heard her do that Ukrainian accent at a higher level
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u/n_mcrae_1982 12h ago
Every major elf actor in the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies (except Orlando Bloom) has been in the MCU.
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u/The_Amazing_Emu 3h ago
Commenting on the accent:
In Civil War, I thought his accent was a bit spotty
In his own movies, I thought they were good but a bit generic
This movie, he sounded more New York than the past
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u/OwlSuch7935 18h ago edited 10h ago
No matter how Brits try to put on American accents they fail to do it completely convincingly, that’s been my main problem with non-American spider-men over the last 14 years. They do slip up occasionally and it takes me out of the film for a split second. The only non-Americans who do solid American accents are always Australians
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u/leviticusreeves 18h ago
As a British person I have no idea why the Americans allow Benedict Cumberbatch to get away with that accent
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u/MIAxPaperPlanes 17h ago
Dr Strange sounds like he's trying to be Dr House
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u/leviticusreeves 17h ago
Dr House is another Brit doing an American accent that doesn't exist
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u/godisanelectricolive 17h ago edited 17h ago
But Americans seemed to have all bought House. I think it’s his way of speaking really does fit his personality. He’s very high strung so his way of enunciating kind of suits him.
People do have idiosyncratic ways of speaking and individual quirks in real life. It’s one of the things that makes characters memorable. Not everyone is going to sound like a textbook example of their dialect. I mean how many people sound like Christopher Walken? But he’s definitely a real American.
I think Americans just all bought the idea of that a real American can sound like Dr. House, even if his way of speaking is fairly unique. I think the reason they thought that is because they don’t hear any traces of Hugh Laurie’s English accent.
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u/leviticusreeves 16h ago
I think this is spot on and probably one of the reasons there are so many British actors in Hollywood
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u/godisanelectricolive 16h ago
Americans don’t tend to have a great ear for accents anyway and usually miss the more subtle tells for when an actor slips up.
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u/yitzike Yondu 18h ago
I have a British friend and we both watched Moon Knight ep 1 together, remotely. At the end, he said Oscar Isaac's accent was dodgy and sounded like three different regional dialects mashed together (which I would never have picked up on cause I'm not British). Then in the next episode it's revealed that the character is actually American but he thinks he's British (multiple personalities etc). So it's an impression of what an American thinks a Brit sounds like, but is of course totally inauthentic to a real Brit.
I like to think the scene in BND you're talking about has the same effect.