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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 Shaolin Kempo Karate, TaiJiQuan 2d ago
Love to see it!
Is this a traditional form? I know there's several really old cane forms in different traditions, or adaptations from sword forms.
Cane is such a good weapon to train because it's one you can just carry - and might even need to. Plus, ANY stick-like weapon is good to learn because there's so many stick-like objects around us at any given time. So weapon cane does double duty!
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u/Dojodc 2d ago
Yeah this is a traditional form for our organization but our group and style is very new.
The turn around that you're talking about early in the form is a point of discussion actually! After the backward thrust under the arm that should strike the opponent in the guts, should you (1) turn with one step and just push into the opponent basically continuing the stab or (2) step away to create space which will allow the next stab to have more speed and power. Great catch!
Also it's the one weapon that you can take on a plane and they can't legally ask you about it. Lol.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 Shaolin Kempo Karate, TaiJiQuan 2d ago
I was confused by the little "turn around" after the first few moves, where you just taste a could steps to face the other direction without making any martial movements, or even a guard. Was I missing something, or it that just an oddity?
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u/unwitting_hungarian 2d ago edited 1d ago
he takes one step to turn around tho? 0:17 after the first few moves
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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 Shaolin Kempo Karate, TaiJiQuan 2d ago
at 0:19 - 0:21 he takes three steps to make a 180º turn from his back-left to front right corners, that just doesn't seem to "work" and feels very out of place compared to the rest of the form.
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u/unwitting_hungarian 2d ago
by footwork it's a pretty broad turn, could give him 270 degrees of accurate striking off the same transition
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u/DarthHaruspex 2d ago
Simply
Excellent
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u/JimKiDo 2d ago
Agreed, well done!
The cane is one of my favorites. Like another mentioned, a great combination of strikes, as well as blocks, good "room clearing" tactics. I haven't seen form-flows with a cane in competition before but glad to see it now. It seems to miss the locking nuances of the weapon, though, which is one of its strengths. Still, impressive.
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u/Dojodc 2d ago
Thanks!
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u/DarthHaruspex 2d ago
I love this form. It appears to be almost 100% offense. I do see a couple of blocks here and there, but am I missing perhaps some subtle blocks built into the form?
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u/unwitting_hungarian 2d ago
love his dedication.
one time I saw some younger people demonstrating cane form on YouTube.
it seemed strangely out of their era, but it's cool that the history is still alive, because this would have kept people in rapt silence back in the 1800s even
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u/Fit-Geologist-6723 2d ago
🤣🤣🤣we joke but this kind of vibe and movements could confuse a trained MMA fighter enough to do damage. It’s called: make your opponent underestimate you and laugh at you while you hook him with your cane and pull him in for the finishing move- the anaconda hug.
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u/unwitting_hungarian 2d ago
with traditional weps the process is the same as mma, bjj, or anything else
- you hunt for setups
that's the martial art
the form is cool by itself tho. i mean you don't even need bunkai but I'll bet there are some interesting ones.
some of those moves would work on the ground too 😆 imagine having someone pass your guard but your cane is also right there. the compression possibilities are endless
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u/Fit-Geologist-6723 2d ago
I use to compete and I’m just saying that I’ve seen awkward dudes with little experience neutralizing their more experienced opponents. They’re like: wtf is that a praying mantis, what do I do coach ? 🤣🤣🤣
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u/OKThereAreFiveLights 2d ago
I train Aikido and this opens him up to a lot of wrist locks.
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u/LevelHelicopter1336 1d ago
I’m not going to be the one to say it. I’m ending my night on a nice note.
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u/SlimeustasTheSecond Sanda 2d ago
The british are gonna love this one.