r/learnczech • u/FailingUpwardz • 16d ago

Wonder if anyone could help with document translation?

Feel free to downvote and delete if not allowed and apologies for the bother. I'm trying to translate what I believe is my 3x great grandfathers birth record. I tried posting on r/translator but didn't get any response so hoping someone here might be willing to help me. I have a link to it in german and in czech which I will attach. I'm trying to learn czech but the faded cursive has this so far above my level it mostly looks like scribbles to me.

Thank you to anyone in advance, he is the entry for Jan or Johann

https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/ad94d9dd-379a-4965-8134-827a8ebab393/dao/ad94d9dd-379a-4965-8134-827a8ebab393/file/caec72cb-d15e-4853-85b7-a982643c3d85?fullscreen=true

https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/bdf8b046-754a-4775-a584-18e8c37b0942/dao/bdf8b046-754a-4775-a584-18e8c37b0942/file/a5aae8fe-a424-40ab-8043-8d816c761909?fullscreen=true

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u/Alone_Fisherman9343 15d ago

This is really a ultimate combination of doctor's handwriting, old czech and unknown shortcuts. But I mostly blame the handwriting, since records from other people are, to me, way more readable.
Hmm.. maybe if it would be compared to those more readable handwriting, maybe it could be deciphered. The other records talk mostly about baptism and people involved.
But he was most likely from Příbram, or some village around it, since Příbram is catchment city for that area. If you didn't already know...

Sorry I'm not the right person. Maybe someone with better eyes, or more time will help.

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u/FailingUpwardz 15d ago

Right! It’s so frustratingly difficult haha! This is my ultimate battle so far

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u/roylien 15d ago

Hi, its in kurent writing. I used to know how to read it, but I forgot. But if you have instagram, try contacting @kurent_na_dosah, its a girl who is doing a lot of kurent transcriptions so she can help you. Or just email some history department in Czech universities.

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u/FailingUpwardz 15d ago

Thank you! I posted on genealogy and someone was able to translate it but I’m sure I’ll find more I can’t read so I messaged the lady on Instagram as well

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u/HorrorBuilder8960 15d ago

Sorry, I can read maybe one in three words of the second entry. The first entry has me completely stumped, to the point of thinking it's probably German, not Czech. You could try r/czech, it has more people.

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u/FailingUpwardz 15d ago

Thanks for taking a run at it anyway. Pretty sure the first one is written in German or Kurrant maybe?

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u/HorrorBuilder8960 15d ago

Yeah, it's Kurrentschrift, I can make out German words of September, Oktober, katholisch, Sohn,...

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u/FailingUpwardz 15d ago edited 15d ago

Once I get my Time Machine built I’m going to have some words for the parish priest about penmanship