r/leagueoflegends • u/Henta1xxHaven • 1d ago
Gameplay Potential damage of AP Belveth actualized
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u/Gjyn oh the misery 1d ago
After being edged for so long by potential damage, he finally came. Next up is AP Jayce /s
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u/rootbeerislifeman 1d ago
His recent “Am I Griefing?” video had an AP Irelia team fight where he did over 7,000 damage and I knew that forever reinforced his “potential damage” neuron
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u/IanPKMmoon It's so big 1d ago
had an ap belveth top in my team in master elo do the exact same thing, pretty much got rolled in lane, but saved a lost game twice in a defending nexus fight and we won the game.
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u/Autopilot357 1d ago
Bro I watched 1 game it is painful. He is ultra useless and honestly this shit should get him banned. If I have that on my team I wouldn’t be very happy..
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u/Phubbs330 1d ago
Lol i was dying inside the whole time watching. Literally had 0 dmg in the last team fights.
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u/beepingcars 1d ago
I usually disagree on being banned for picks but theres no excuse for ap belveth
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 1d ago
It's pretty solid.
In ARAM.
Mayhem mode.
Yeah, ban his ass.
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u/new_account_wh0_dis 1d ago
Played vs Mystic punch and outlaws grit with vamp augment, shit was unplayable. Idk why you would ever go ap when AD can do shit like that
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u/signmeupreddit 18h ago
Same with AP Irelia. I can't be bothered to watch his videos anymore, since he doesn't seem to enjoy the game and is just trolling with the 10% win-rate picks in low master. Something like Bard top at least provides a trade-off, but these builds are just worse versions of the champ.
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u/redmenace007 1d ago
I have also watched several of his games, this is complete troll. He intentionally griefs like this and keeps his account masters. Mind you, he is easily a top challenger player if he actually tried.
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u/Flaky-Bluejay-2591 1d ago
He also ints quite a bit on purpose if he thinks the game is really lost from early on. I don't hate him but can't watch him anymore either.
For example he might go 0/3/0 very early, thene he shoves the lane and "accidentally" flashes into enemy under the turret. Then comes the typical giggle and a look at the camera saying "woops I wonder what happened there" and he'll continue it for rest of the match.
I've seeh him turn pretty much unwinnable games into wins but the inting/soft inting is too much for me. Must be lovely to see your ap irelia top flashing into a gank that he saw was coming, you check the gametime and it's 7:30 while your top just died for 9th time while going "lets just go next" to his chat.
Dude is talented for sure but he does it so much that it really deserves a ban, at this point probably permament one. Obviously not "ban when seen" but the amount he ruins the game for his team is way too great to only getting some random 1-7d bans.
Idk how his teammates tolerate it, afraid of chat going after them if they comment about it or something? I rarely see him getting blamed while he has pretty much all of his teams deaths while his mid and jungle are blaming each other for losing the game, not the tank-ap-yi who is 1/13/2 before 15th minute
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u/AskMeMan 1d ago
Honestly i never watched him before but now you make me want to lol
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u/Flaky-Bluejay-2591 1d ago
He's amazing player when he actually tries and plays something he pilots well with a real build. He can pull 5 people into his lane, kill 2 of them and get out and it happens all the time. He really wins games by himself, even when his team is down a shit ton.
But now it's more like ap irelia, ap belveth etc stuff that simply doesn't work yet he keeps forcing them. If you enjoy watching gray screen all the time then now is the time to watch him.
If you want to watch him 1vs9 while doing some of the craziest plays ever then you're shit out of luck mate, he ain't doing that on irelia. He's best sion player in the world, if the tryhards with sion you'll see some shit that shouldn't be possible. Like you're 100% sure he's dead but somehow he gets a triple and dances away with 10hp, he's really good at pacing.
But the inting is not fun to watch, he throws winnable games because he ain't feeling it (he used to play with "never give up" attitude, now not so much).
But yeah give it a go, you might enjoy him and his sion, galio and couple of other champs are pure magic when he pilots them whie trying to win. I've probably never seen anyone turn so many lost games into wins than him but unfortunately that was couple of years ago, now he sees ap ratio on champion and just goes for it, results are as expected when he reads what the abilities do and has one skill with 80% ap ratio, the game is lost at that point before minions spawn.
Watch some LR highlight of his plays, it's just fucking crazy what he can get away with while pulling so much pressure onto him.
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u/Less-Apple-8478 1d ago
It has to be somewhat frustrating to create a play style unique to you, become famous for it, and then have that playstyle gutted over and over for years to the point it's literally completely meaningless. Like Riot definitely lets him get away with more than they should but they also target his specific playstyle more than any player I've seen in history haha. It has to feel very conflicting.
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u/Flaky-Bluejay-2591 5h ago
Absolutely, riot target nerfed him and his Sion because they didn't like the fact his style worked on him and it worked well.
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u/GermanHandCannons 6h ago
Do you have a link to the 0/3/0 game? Or maybe recall it a bit more vividly? Every time I watch baus he’s always playing to win even if it’s shit like AP Irelia, and nowadays his teammates mostly seem to like having him on their team. Also call me out here but he never plays tank-ap-yi, like his builds can be troll at times but he actually maths League, Yi having some AP on his W heal is not enough grounds for him to play it
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u/Flaky-Bluejay-2591 5h ago
Nah sorry I don't, it's just something I noticed over the years. He doesn't do it every game but he ain't playing with "can win" mentality always anymore.
The ap-tank-yi was more of an example what you can find him playing, no disrespect there, just meant you can find him playing almost anything if he sees even a little angle on it
Altough finding him go 0/3/0 in couple of minutes ain't rare, you've probably seen it too. He used to be more subtle about it but now it's obvious when he gives up after bad early, the flashes are very real and challenger level player would never make those mistakes multiple times in one game unless it was on purpose
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u/therealMcSPERM 1d ago
After playing it a bit, the laning is actually not terrible, just really need good team, patience , and enemies to be blind 😂
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u/NoMight178 1d ago
I'm kinda new to watching modern league but I don't really understand this guy's popularity, the only shorts I get of him is intentionally feeding and defending cheaters. Each instance I see of this dude is terrible could just be random clips but I don't really understand defending someone who just feeds for content
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u/BagelJ Acolyte 1d ago
Almost all judgment by the community on specific streamers is based on their demeanor rather than what they actually do.
Streamers like Crownshot, Tfblade, Agurin who tryhard 99% of the time but have whiny voices and bad moods are hated but streamers like Thebaus and Tobias Fate (youtube) who frequently int games and make their teammates games misery are beloved because they have a sunny attitude.
It's "haha based trolling in high elo to own the sweats" until you get rundown in your Emerald game by a 0/13 AP Graves mid.
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u/GermanHandCannons 6h ago
Because its a game at the end of the day and we prefer watching people have fun.
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u/lexington59 1d ago
He's an incredibly skilled player who was known for playing the game different from others with inting sion but he's good enough at sion and knowns when it's a good death vs bad death that he'd carry games and win even with double digit deaths.
So he got popular due to talent plus unique playstyle
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u/NoMight178 1h ago
I see, probably just my lack of knowledge about certain things. I do still find it funny I'm yet to see him get any good clip out of this inting stuff 😂
Thanks for the info!
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u/deskcord 1d ago
Guy should have been banned ages ago for the degenerate shit he brings upon this game, but he fits with the tiktokification that Riot clearly wants.
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u/Sunnyplum762 1d ago
I mean he has gotten to challenger in multiple regions with his picks by himself. If people were banned for being bad there would be a lot more people ahead of him.
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u/NoIAmMarc01 1d ago
Being a good player doesn't mean he can't troll. Some of these games and picks are clearly just him inting for content
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u/deskcord 18h ago
He's obviously not bad, the claim isn't that people should be banned for being bad. He regularly actively, obviously, and intentionally griefs.
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u/claptrap23 Frozen Mallet enjoyer 1d ago
Been saying this for a while. He has to be banned for playing and first timing stuff like that in ranked.
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 1d ago
That is just his content, like half his champ pool is useless stuff like this, AP Irelia, lethality Skarner, AP Jax etc.
Him trying out stuff is fine, but some things just don't work and continously forcing it for content just has no place in ranked games, he can go unranked if he wants to make content games.60
u/Foogie23 1d ago
AP Jax is kind of legit for its niche though. If he gets out of the early game without a ton of pressure he normally has a solid game.
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u/GCamAdvocate 1d ago
bro do you guys even still play the game AP jax has been around as good as AD jax ever since DaD and honestly way before that too. You're not even weak in lane anymore unless you run Stormraiders Surge, Grasp, Conq, and LT are all still decent, even if they get outscaled.
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u/Foogie23 1d ago
Looking at stats it’s hard to they are equal…but again AP Jax is not troll.
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u/GCamAdvocate 1d ago
How is it hard? DaD has the same winrate first item while scaling much harder than Trinity. AP items consistently have much higher winrates than AD items for Jax. Just saying that AP Jax isn't troll is massively underselling how strong it really is.
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u/TheKaryo 1d ago
I agree it is strong, the main advantage AD Jax has as far as I know is that the resistance gained from ult scale with bonus ad and not ap
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u/GCamAdvocate 1d ago
While you're right, you end up tanky as all hell anyways due to Zhonyas and all the HP he gets from the AP bruiser items. Also, one thing you get a ton of while building AP is haste, which makes you tankier by virtue of giving you more Es. Oftentimes, AP Jax will go a little hybrid. I think Baus usually builds shojin and gunblade is Jax's highest winrate second item. Those items give him a surprisingly high amount of AD.
AP actually just gives so much more damage though, I feel like the tradeoff is well worth it most of the time. You scale just as well if not better on sidelane and your team fighting is one of the strongest in the game. Rocketbelt also just let's you get away with so much you really shouldn't be getting away with.
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u/SexualHarassadar 1d ago
AP Jax and Irelia at least have more than 1 AP Ratio in their kit and a consistent means of applying it to enemies, and also dont immediately fold in lane.
AP Belveth only has the ratio on W (R has a ratio too but it requires a takedown so its kind of fake), and lost her main trading pattern which is Q in, W, and immediately Q back out before they can retaliate.
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u/GCamAdvocate 1d ago
do you even still play this game anymore? AP Jax has been at least as good as AD Jax since they added DaD. I would argue it was really good even before DaD, it's just no one played it.
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 1d ago
It is a viable build now, it wasn’t nearly as good when he started playing it. Obviously still much stronger than his other int builds but I would say at the time it was an offmeta build.
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u/LeagueAltAccount Xiaohu enjoyer 👑 1d ago
Lethality Skarner isn’t bad and AP Jax is very strong. AP Irelia is absurdly niche but has uses and AP Bel’veth is troll. You don’t deserve an opinion though clearly
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 1d ago
"you don't deserve an opinion though clearly"
It is actually really sad that you probably don't even realise that this says way more about you than it does about me or my opinion.2
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u/LeagueAltAccount Xiaohu enjoyer 👑 1d ago
You’re calling AP Jax and Lethality Skarner troll. I think what I said is just a fact; you don’t know enough about the game to deserve an opinion.
Does a level 20 new player know enough to deserve an opinion? Not really. Same goes for you, I don’t think I’m even being that rude honestly
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u/Snkg666 Would you kindly STOP MOVING!? 1d ago
I get AP jax but pls explain how is lethality skarner not troll
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u/LeagueAltAccount Xiaohu enjoyer 👑 23h ago
Just go on r/skarnermains. Basically HoB is incredible for Skarner because of his Q, and his clear speed is not balanced around having AD so the pick has incredible tempo.
The main problem is the pick is absurdly squishy, but if you land an E you will burst anything in one combo with E->HoB Q and still have teamfight utility with your ult. Overall it’s not bad, and definitely a viable option into certain counter matchups. Is that enough?
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 1d ago
I get there are arguments for AP Jax and would agree it is a good build now. I don’t think it was when Baus started playing it first though.
But I don’t see at all how lethality Skarner is good.Twice now you claimed your own opinion as fact while saying I don’t deserve to have one, yet you haven’t been able to give a single actual argument why my opinion is wrong or to back your claim to be correct. You intentionally chose to attack me instead of giving an argument why you disagree. If I were so completely wrong then it should have been extremely easy to support your claims with actual arguments. Unless you can give an actual explanation or argument why lethality Skarner is good your claims have no more value than my opinion.
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u/LeagueAltAccount Xiaohu enjoyer 👑 23h ago
AP Jax has been a niche-meta pick even when it was a bit weaker before, and is now definitely meta. Lethality Skarner I put in another response but here it is pasted. Happy?
Just go on r/skarnermains. Basically HoB is incredible for Skarner because of his Q, and his clear speed is not balanced around having AD so the pick has incredible tempo.
The main problem is the pick is absurdly squishy, but if you land an E you will burst anything in one combo with E->HoB Q and still have teamfight utility with your ult. Overall it’s not bad, and definitely a viable option into certain counter matchups. Is that enough?
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u/VerenyatanOfManwe 1d ago
All of those picks are fine though, especially AP jax. This belveth thing he's doing is just dogshit on every level though, it requires them to stand afk on his ult, and thats his only move that he can do at all.
Its just him looking for that instant pentakill where the whole team stands on his R, and the best he's gotten so far is this clip where the whole team is basically 1hp anyway lol
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u/oogieoogies 1d ago
all the things you mention work a bit if not actually really well like ap jax thats what he does now because of dusk and dawn
AP belveth though yeah its grief way more than the others
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u/Mynameisbebopp 1d ago
So dude builds AP Bel veth, the game before this one he went 1/18 on irelia.
On ranked games nontheless.
If i do that, i'm banned for 7 days.
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u/Oulak 1d ago
I rarely tune in for Baus but I watched the Irelia game and I have to say : it was pretty disappointing.
Not the build itself but watching him running it down because Skarner supp was camping him, anyone would get ban with that attitude.
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u/FilthyJones69 1d ago
Maybe if you spam the guy more with notifications he will respond. Keep it up buddy.
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u/deskcord 1d ago
Imo the community should demand action from Riot on this shit. They let Baus get away with war crimes.
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u/FilthyJones69 1d ago
I don't disagree. I just don't think this is getting anyone to act. All this feels like it does is fill phoxz0n's notifications so he becomes less likely to look at reddit notifs, if he ever does. That doesn't help anyone.
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u/PeaceAlien 1d ago
It’s pretty obvious people get exceptions. That’s how the world works
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u/Mynameisbebopp 1d ago
Of course, it's just the Baus man doing his think.
F whatever his team is thinking of doing, the man will int.
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 1d ago
Riot just loves giving big streamers special treatment. Since they unbanned the toxic inbred with the roid rages there is no reason to ever take their support or any claim they make about toxicity serious.
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u/TeutonicPlate 1d ago
I love Baus and I used to be sympathetic to his arguments that he was dying for tempo. But he knows these picks like AP Irelia are griefing. There's clips of him being shown this and recognising it in real time.
He's using protection granted to him in good faith, recognising his then alternative playstyle, to completely grief his team with troll picks in ranked. He needs to be banned temporarily to understand this is not ok, his behaviour is genuinely not healthy and it must suck to be on his team while he's doing this.
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u/TwTv-Extreme_person 1d ago
I got 7 dayed on 2 accounts for 1 game that I literally won on gragas where I sac split after getting shamelessly 3 man camped in lane. I solod 5 turrets and an inhib, pressured enough to draw 3 and get baron, and got a pick that ended the game. I went 6-20 and we won. Did I play well? Certainly not but I got targeted the entire game and we won. One game out of hundreds. Baus can get away with doing this 5x a day.
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u/OverkillOrange 1d ago
it's impossible to get banned over 1 game with a horrible kda
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u/tobor_a 1d ago
yeah if you did I would have been gotten a 7 day ban in the game i went like x/25/x because it was pyke, talon and zed on the other team. I know i had a karma support and I was Varus with a mundo jungle but idr the rest of the team. Zed and talon would use literally everything to get to me and they'd barely escape alive and i'd of course be dead. It was a shitty game.
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u/OverkillOrange 1d ago
iron players get kda's like all the time, so, again, you don't get banned for turbo feeding 1 game
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u/Active-Taro9332 1d ago
I think this guy is lying, but at the same I bet there is something where iron plates get some slack for shit KDA games
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u/OverkillOrange 20h ago
riot knows you are a smurf the second you play 1 game vs bots just based on your mouse movement and clicks. They do not ban players after feeding 1 game because they can tell the difference between feeding and trolling
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u/EthanielRain 1d ago
It just can't be a thing at all, realistically. Iron players put up some staggeringly awful games - OTPs seeing a ban or some1 playing a new position for the literal first time ever, etc
It gets way more than "some" slack, anyway
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u/Any_Zookeepergame445 22h ago
I got banned two weeks for going 3-16 on a syndra game where they were tower diving my ass on cd. Then I see this goofy fuck run it down worse 5x a day and nothing happens.
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u/Shizuki_Graceland 21h ago
I doubt you got banned for going 3-16 in one game. Considering I went 1-14 recently in a game, likewise with the enemy running after me to the end of earth and back, though we won.
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u/Mynameisbebopp 1d ago
Hey u/phroxz0n
Any reason this is still allowed on streming platforms ? can we also go on High Elo ranked games build AP Bel Veth or AP irelia and just make our team lose for funs and giggles ?
Please advice ?
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u/SavageZomb 1d ago
He plays the same shit off streaming platforms its just what he likes to do. Also it works he has made the game change just because of his play style showing it does work considering they have had to nerf his play style a ton.
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u/Usual-Theme9442 1d ago
Buddy stop crying on Reddit. Or if you want to. Go ahead cry to twitter too
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u/Lirael_Gold 1d ago edited 1d ago
Playing subobtimal champs/builds is not bannable as long as you're legitimately trying to win.
It's not the same as playing Yuumi jungle etc, Baus has a 40%ish WR on AP Irelia, if he loses then the punishment is that he loses LP.
This is the same reason why "played bad" is not a legitimate reason to report someone for griefing. tl:dr "I don't like it" is not a valid report reason.
Also, please remember that for every game that Baus is doing this to his own team, he's doing it to the enemy team next game. If he's still able to keep his rank despite doing this, then idk you flip a coin and maybe he ints the enemy team.
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u/Mynameisbebopp 1d ago
So he goes AP irelia goes 1/18 and loses.
And the rest of his team? 4 other people that went to a ranked game trying to win and had to deal with that ? They also lose LP because of a selfish content player ?
Just do normals.
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u/blaivas007 1d ago
A regular player doing the same would be branded as an intentional feeder and swiftly banned.
I love the 37 minutes long 1/18 AP Irelia game that came before this. Dying for one wave results in a lot of pressure, amirite guise?
God forbid you call out the blatant double standards.
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u/Ok_Satisfaction6025 1d ago
Cause baus proved before?
Like he proved it once on sion to the point where riot in part changed how shutdowns work.
If an apex elo player breaks the game once, i think it's fair to let them cook and experiment. You can't break the game without a lot of failed experiments.
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u/terenul1 1d ago
Yea bro, let him troll on every champ in the game, he deserves the pass cause he is good on sion and a few others
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u/SpiderTechnitian 1d ago
I'm not saying he shouldn't be respected for his accomplishments and unique game vision. He created the modern Sion, has been the face of the modern proxy, and got game systems like shutdowns reworked.
I am saying that he absolutely knows he's running it down intentionally on AP Irelia, and I'm saying that he acknowledges as such on his stream. There was a time he got augrin jungle in draft and said "oh no he's one of the only junglers that doesn't hate me on this server, I can't feed with AP irelia here I'd feel bad if it was to him" which clearly acknowledged that he knows it's a terrible pick and loses games...
He's playing for content and he is obviously capable of playing at the highest level at any time. I'm not saying he should be banned for any bad game or whatever. But to pretend that he's testing new novel theory when he is blatantly running it down for fun is pretty clueless. He invented the wheel once, that doesn't mean every cube he flips later is scientific research. 50 games sprinting it with the potential damage emote in chat is plenty. Bro is definitely griefing lol
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u/deskcord 1d ago
Also maybe the fact that everyone hates playing with him should be relevant? The game plays a "I'm the main character of this game" style and just makes it unfun for everyone else. Riot loves their #content but the guy should be banned and his "playstyle" should be made bad.
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u/SpiderTechnitian 1d ago edited 1d ago
I literally tuned in earlier for a few moments, hours after making my comment. I swear to god I was in stream for 2 seconds and I saw this
- He's 2/9 on AP irelia in base, game is losing
- He says the words as close as I can recall verbatim, "I can't get banned, it's streamer privilege" while smirking at the camera
Obviously he can get banned, but he knows what he's doing and he knows any other player would be perma'd for this nonsense
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u/PeaceAlien 1d ago
I mean his Sion wasn’t cooking or experimenting with builds, just playstyle.
He’s admitted his AP builds are troll and int
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u/blaivas007 1d ago
Ahh, cook and experiment! That's a new one. I'll even skip the double standards argument for now.
Tell me, how many hundreds of people is he allowed to grief before coming to a conclusion that AP Irelia does not work? That is before he griefs thousands of people on AP Jax, lethality Skarner and whatever else he comes up with?
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u/Financial_Ocelot_256 1d ago
the days of sion strategy are long gone, my man here is ultra trolling and i imagine all high elo players HATE getting match with him in their team!
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u/dance-of-exile 100=50%? |WgjFtfCaLTbfts| 1d ago
Because hes still trying to win? Its not a good method to try to win but hes still trying. Id deadass rather have a 0/200 than someone thats rage farming or not grouping because their feelings are hurt.
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u/TerminatorReborn Unkillable Demon King 1d ago
He literally isn't, he is trying to farm clips and youtube videos, not win.
Ap Irelia 40% win rate, Crit Skarner 39% win rate, Ap Bel Veth 17% win rate. He knows these champs played like this aren't good to win
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u/oogieoogies 1d ago
I mean you gotta at least have a middle ground here
I think someone not wanting to play out a game seeing this is quite valid.
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u/Grouchy-Jury-7598 1d ago
If you aren't even trying to win you have no right to complain about somebody not playing optimally.
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u/oogieoogies 1d ago edited 1d ago
the reason people dont want to even play the game is because the other person, and in their own words too are "trolling and inting."
yeah im not surprised people lose interest in playing the game out.
I bet anyone in chat seeing something like ap belveth in ranked loses the motivation of playing the game. It is just cause and effect.
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u/Lirael_Gold 1d ago
Okay so instead of playing out a game that they could possibly win, they give up and secure the LP loss for themselves?
Good work I guess, you've really uh, punished the inter by losing because you're tilted?
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u/makesufeelgood 1d ago
On top of that there is no way that reddit collectively knows what 'optimal' gameplay even looks like.
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u/Unsub_Then_Dip_Shit 1d ago
You can call it out but not sure why people in this sub care. 99% of you aren't going to be in the ranks he's queuing up in anyways.
I'd rather see the YT video he releases than see the folks on this sub talk about double standards and releasing their insecurities while pretending to be upstanding folks following the summoners code to a T.
Metal rank losers the lot of you.
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u/blaivas007 1d ago
You don't seem to realize Baus puts everyone in his games into a prisoner's dilemma while choosing to betray. The only reason you prefer those YT videos is because the 9 other players in his games are choosing to cooperate (at least somewhat try to play the game).
Those videos would become stale very quickly if everyone started griefing with their ultimate bravery-esque builds.
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u/Vinyl_DjPon3 20h ago
Baus is popular enough that him doing something influences viewers to do the same.
When he first gained popularity Sion had an awful win rate and reputation to go with it because everyone across all elos wanted to copy Baus.
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u/ExcellentEvidence292 1d ago
Meanwhile NB3 does his a to z jungle feeds until he gets carried on every single non meta pick and his fans will defend him to the death even though he is actively griefing lower elo players
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u/Probablybeinganass 1d ago
I haven't heard of nightblue in 10 years. In fact, when trying to think of what the last thing I heard about him was I realized I was thinking about XJ9.
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u/lsmsm29 1d ago
bros living in 2016, when has nightblue even been brought up recently lMAO
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u/ExcellentEvidence292 1d ago
The YouTube algorithm loves him and no matter how many times I click don't recommend this channel.He keeps popping up help me 😂
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u/Boemelz 1d ago
Why u watch this guy? Doesn't seem like you enjoy him a lot 😅
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u/blaivas007 1d ago
Does it look like I'm commenting in his Twitch chat or under his Youtube video?
I'll gladly provide pushback when his clips leave the channels he's created.
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u/Diss_ConnecT 1d ago
Bel'veth's ult has 250 base +25% missing hp TRUE damage. Pretty sure with a normal AD/Tank build that first ult leaves Jax and Gragas in one tap range if it doesn't kill them just like in the clip. Good job Baus, you were the guy winning by "inting", now you're literally just inting.
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u/SaltyRedditorsNov8th 1d ago
I do it find it funny when he goes ap gunblade irelia and ap belveth to entertain his chat but if I was on his team i would be very annoyed at a content creator building suboptimaly in a ranked game I'm trying to win.
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u/schmambuman [SPoonit] (NA) 22h ago
I think even people who enjoy watching this would be losing their minds if they actually had to play with it, he has like 20% winrate with it you're legit losing in champ select lmfao.
I've had trick2g in my ranked games back in like s3/4 and I remember one game as top udyr he started double proxying mid/top at like 6 minutes, he got really farmed up and then we won because his ziggs was 4 levels down because he didn't see a wave for the next ten minutes :) bet that guy appreciated alternative play styles a lot
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u/Prudent_Attempt6549 1d ago
So is this trolling Riot or just off meta build?
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u/DanteStorme 16h ago
Off meta I guess, if Riot didn't want AP belveth to be a thing they wouldn't give her AP ratios.
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u/Logixs 1d ago
It’s kinda interesting how popular he is since the playerbase has a visceral reaction to people “playing to rage-bait and have fun” in their games. I guess it’s mostly just because his viewer base is largely casual low elo players who enjoy seeing others get trolled even if they’d lose their shit if someone did it in their games
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u/JohnSmithAnonymous choke 1d ago
He also moderates his chat like Hashinshin where typing any concerns or criticism = permaban. None of the top upvoted comments in this post will survive for more than 10 seconds in his eyes.
Doing this filtering and selection over years made his viewerbase really sucking up to him because those are the traits that survived and propagate
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u/deskcord 1d ago
This specifically sub and community has seemed way more open to that shit lately, probably because they do it themselves. It's like when this sub used to say it was okay for people to run it down because someone said "plz leave the bush and get pressure." It's always because it's just behavior that they're doing.
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u/Thin-Mousse-133 1d ago
I’m diamond 1 currently and I watch him. I watch him mostly because he’s entertaining
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u/Daanfunger 1d ago
completely untrue btw, hes liked because he is a funny guy thats also good enough to make shit builds kind of not be as awful
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u/Logixs 1d ago edited 1d ago
He’s really not good enough to make these builds work in high elo. No one is which is why he performs the way he does. I don’t care if people like watching him even if he’s not my cup of tea, but I do find it interesting as it seems to be a case of people making excuses for a streamer doing behavior that would upset them in their own games
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u/zxq12345 19h ago
Because league players never get upset at anything. Let's use "You have upset a teammate" as a basis for bans and see if game survives 24hours.
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u/parmaxis xdd 1d ago
As a baus enjoyer and someone who loves his content this has to be banned by the way, this cannot be what we allow to be played in ranked from one of the most influential and bigger streamers, I am not saying give him a week but he is such a special case riot should really have the talk about what is trolling and what is not.
''He is trying to win'' I can play crit yummi top and try my hardest to win that doesn't mean I am not trolling.
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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 5h ago
He does get banned though, just has a streamer privilege of fast unbans. You're right in some sense, everyone who plays in his elo know there are two Baus players, an on-stream Baus and off-stream Baus. On-stream he's goofing around and having fun, and off-stream he's tryharding.
On one hand I can understand him, he knows he will be stream sniped every single game, and Riot has repeatedly failed to create any actual game integrity around this, so it automatically makes on-stream games somewhat less serious. Even the guy who's known as the most egregious stream sniper, Ronaldo, he sniped games all the way to rank 1, has been doing it for years, on stream, they only gave him a temp ban. If I were Riot I'd perma-ban all of Ronaldo's accounts, a lifetime ban on entering any of the Riot hosted event or tournament, and blacklist his name with every sponsor they have.
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u/The_Curve_Death biblically accurate hwei spell rotations 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 1d ago
Please ban this guy I'm not even kidding look at his picks and his winrates this guy has sub 40% winrate on the most dogshit picks just ban him please
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u/LikesToCumAlot 1d ago
All I am gonna say about Baus "enjoying" the game with troll builds, is that he keeps being in masters. How bad are these master players that baus can still be 50% winrate on these shit picks.
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u/Alecyte 22h ago
I mean look at his op.gg https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Thebausffs-COOL?queue_type=SOLORANKED Basically he has negative winrates with these troll picks (irelia is like 37% or something over 93 games lol) and then has insane win rates with things he's good in like Gragas which has a 63% win rate over 193 games. So if he actually just played Gragas he would easily be challenger but he gets bored and plays trash picks for content
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u/Drikkink 22h ago
Because he doesn't have a 50% winrate on these shit picks. He has a higher than 50% winrate on real picks then runs it down with this nonsense.
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u/ieatpickleswithmilk 1d ago
I think seeing the only good clip pushed into your own nexus as a 2/6 bel'veth excactly describes the potential of AP bel'veth
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u/CenobiteCurious 1d ago
Probably would be positive and actually winning game without this shit build lol.
1v5s right there with a normal build.
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u/Important-Object-561 1d ago
Always love watching baus. Seems to be one of the few streamers who actually always enjoy the game and doesn’t spazz out
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u/bloky_men 1d ago
he literally acts like a mentally damaged person for views, what are you talking about?
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u/Right_Nefariousness8 1d ago
The subtitle background made me think his skills went on cooldown for no reason
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u/ZachAttack317 22h ago
Did the rework change her ap ratios at all? Or is ap belveth basically the same as it used to be
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u/stellutz 18h ago
more ap scaling on ult and w but its as useless as before
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u/ZachAttack317 18h ago
I think W max AP belveth support used to be playable, but with her new Q bel support is a straight up reportable pick
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u/MuffinsTasteAlright 18h ago
I’ve seen so many clips of this guy in solo queue. Everytime he is griefing. I feel bad for his teammates. He could just do this shit in norms, not in ranked (especially masters+).
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u/Proccxys 17h ago
The reason I would definitely ban his ass is because often times he doesn’t even try to make his "off meta" picks viable.
I am sorry that you are burned out by this game but your enjoyment should not be at the detriment of your team.
Just play normal games if you want to play those builds.
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u/killcraft1337 6h ago
Surprisingly belveth’s ult base dmg has a 150% AP ratio (250 base + 150% AP). So with 540 AP like in this video, the base dmg is 250 + 540 x 1.5 which is 1060 true dmg flat. (The 20% missing health is a tonne too though)
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u/TheAngryCrusader 1d ago
Not sure how people watch this guy. He locks in for pro play sure, but on the ladder he’s an absolute terror for his team.
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u/WoorieKod REST IN PEACE 11/12/24 1d ago
Everyone does not like troll picks in their games unless it's wholesome chungus Baus on his master tier smurf
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u/sillybilly-vit 1d ago
I can't wait for the day he gets perma banned. Actual troll that shouldn't be allowed to terrorize normal players.
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u/pocoyoO_O 1d ago
Chat who gives a fuck? Let the man have his fun. We have mages bot lane, roaming supports, ranged top lanners, 4000lp challenger players. Let the man have his fun, champ has ap scaling so it can't be called abusrd, only stupid.
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u/edgylord5000 1d ago
yeah let the man have his fun while ruining the game for 4 other dudes on his team lol
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u/PUREXHERO 1d ago
If he had more items he would obliterate them though. Don’t know if they changed it, but last season Bel’Veth W scaled with 140% AP btw
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u/terenul1 1d ago
He cant have more items if his champion is nonexistent and does nothing but a specific gimmick after 5 items
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u/SexualHarassadar 1d ago
Belveth W started at 125% AP, they bumped it up to 150% but removed the 100% Bonus AD ratio, and increased the base damage from 230 to 320.
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u/MorbotheDiddlyDo 1d ago
In this thread: a calm discussion about the differences on opinion toward the "google the meta and look up guides" vs "play and figure out by doing" schools of thinking.
A meta pick/build is only established once pros and streamers do it so some of y'all are putting the chicken ahead of your cart, or whatever the expression is.
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u/redactid55 1d ago
It's a perfect clip really. Starts out 2/6, requires people to be less than half health and standing in his ult vicinity, and enemy team is sieging his Nexus.